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Old Sep 14, 2004, 01:09 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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My GF Emailed me about this, at 10pm EST "Seconds from Disaster" will air, showing how the plane did what it did. Has this been aired before? If not I am gonna watch it, see what they say.
I guess they are gonna go indepth proving what happened and all.


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Old Sep 14, 2004, 01:57 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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It is funny that they would have to "prove" this happened. What channel is this?


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Old Sep 14, 2004, 02:10 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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National Geographic Channel.

THey are just going over what happened, in light of all the goofy websites claiming, depsite common sense and simple logic, that no airplane hit the pentagon, it makes sense to do the show.


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Old Sep 14, 2004, 04:00 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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lol I just noticed I could of read the title. :) I went on one of those sights from here, while it was thought provoking I think it was too much hearsay to take seriously.


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Old Sep 14, 2004, 04:11 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Well it will be interesting to see what they show. Ebaums world was runnign that idiot film proporting a misslie hit the pentagon.. what lunacy, and the NGC special should be able to clear up such ignorance.. I hope it does. Its not that hard when you take a moment to consider the full issue at hand. We shall see.


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Old Sep 14, 2004, 05:13 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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I think this would be interesting...I recently watched a 2 hour special on this very topic on the history channel, I believe, and it was quite interesting to watch what happened...I'd like to see this one, but I don't know if I'm going to make it intime.


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Old Sep 14, 2004, 06:41 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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It that on a regular TV channel or on the discovery channel, or where can we find a listing for airing times in our areas?

They will no doubt show how the WTC was constructed and how the heat caused it to crumble. So some of the fault would be due to how the building was constructed rather then the actual fault of the aipliner, that is to say, if the building had a different design the airplane would have damaged one or two floors, represented danger to higher floors (fire), but all the people who were below the impact location and were leaving the building would have been safe, along with the firefighters (with some exceptions). So the terrorist attack that they knew would kill a hundred people ended up killing thousands because of the additional factors in the building's design. Which can be called accidental or unintional (and unexpected by the designer of the building). At the other location the plane might have hit the ground first and they hop-skipped into the pentagon building, that would have slowed it down a little causing less of an impact. Also it hit an area that they had closed down for reconstruction and it was not as populated with employees as normal.

But the "moments before" headline has perked my interest, did the controllers at airports know something was fishy when three of their airplanes were hi-jacked, and that two of them were heading in the same direction? Who did the controllers contact and what was done in those moments between the hi-jacking and the hit?

Possible conspriacy (take with big grain of salt) is this... did Bush know before and did nothing, then had someone tell him during his school photo opt so it would appear he just found out? Hmmmm?

Also, I am hearing about a film clip that was not shown on normal TV where you see the airplane flying to the WTC and in the background you see a military jet span out and away, as if it had been following the hi-jacked plane to monitor it. Or.. (have another grain of salt) did that pilot panic and not pull the trigger when ordered? I doubt that would have happened. If that film clip is for real it would make seeing that important (for the record).

But when it comes down to the final line, Bin Laden is at fault and he is still on the loose.

As far as that other report, how could a airpliner with listed passingers show up missing if it did not crash at the Pentagon?
Now they might have fired on it and a missle missed and hit the building moments before the plane also crashed. But did not see the other film so cannot say for sure.

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Old Sep 14, 2004, 06:55 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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I have NO clue Tech, my GF just sent me an email as she was headed to class and knew I would be interested in such...


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Old Sep 14, 2004, 07:48 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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I'll try to catch it tonight, but I don't expect much new. Unless it proves it WAS a missile (and I DO mean PROVES) I ain't buying the missile story.
I just can't connect the two things. One, we have been told repeatedly how well planned the attack was and how studious and methodical Al Queda is. Two, we are supposed to believe they went to all the trouble to hijack at least ONE airliner (I saw the plane hit the WTC live and I ain't buying the Mother of all V2 rockets yarn) and then use a missile to hit the Pentagon, knowing full well that the planes only had the chance because no one was going to believe one would be used in that manner. A MISSILE, OTOH is kinda obvious as to its purpose.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Sep 15, 2004, 10:45 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Well, I watched it, and I found it quite interesting especially since there was NO mention of this missile theory. One part that caught my eye was the Pentagon fireman (one of three full-time firefighters at the Pentagon) describing seeing the plane just before it hit. Also, they report finding the "Black Box" indicating air speed at impact, etc..
If this isn't enough to put to rest the missile theory I don't know what is.


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Old Sep 15, 2004, 10:50 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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I couldnt find the damn channel. :(


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Old Sep 15, 2004, 11:41 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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The government continues to deliberately promote and encourage conspiracy theories for some reason, possibly to lull the public into a sense of skepticism when a real conspiracy occurs. They could go a long ways towards resolving the Pentagon conspiracy by releasing the transcripts of the black boxes of Flight 77 and 93, as well as the other surveillance tapes of the approach of 77 to the Pentagon, all of which remains classified. Why?


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