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Old Sep 13, 2004, 03:27 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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There was a large physical disturbance over the weekend in North Korea. Secretary of State Colin Powell was quick to announce that it was not a nuclear event. This brings to mind some questions:

How would he know? Does he have scientific staff available for such analysis? Wouldn't that be the purview of CIA or NSA or even the Defense Intelligence Agency. If one of those agencies gathered and analysed the information, why would it be announced by the State Department? Aren't these the same types of data that would have come across the desks of the same people who were responsible for deciding that Saddam Hussein had WMD.

Was the decision made to have the announcement come from State an attempt to get the most possible credibility for yet one more piece of critical information that may not be ultimately knowable?

Can we now go to the Security Council and say with any hope of being believed that the North Korans are one step closer to becoming a Nuclear power? Based on Iraq and the continued spin of the administration over the failures in that unfortunate country, it is not clear how anyone is going to believe us over an issue that all seem to wish would just go away.

One wonders how Americans can be believed in world affairs on a day when another 59 Iraqis were killed in freedom's march.


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Old Sep 13, 2004, 07:00 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Was the decision made to have the announcement come from State an attempt to get the most possible credibility for yet one more piece of critical information that may not be ultimately knowable?
Fear not citizen. Go about your daily business. There is nothing to worry about, unless you vote the wrong way. We know exactly what it is. Otherwise, we couldn't tell you definitively what it is not.


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Old Sep 13, 2004, 06:42 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Melvyn,
There was a large physical disturbance over the weekend in North Korea. Secretary of State Colin Powell was quick to announce that it was not a nuclear event. This brings to mind some questions:

How would he know? Does he have scientific staff available for such analysis? Wouldn't that be the purview of CIA or NSA or even the Defense Intelligence Agency. If one of those agencies gathered and analysed the information, why would it be announced by the State Department? Aren't these the same types of data that would have come across the desks of the same people who were responsible for deciding that Saddam Hussein had WMD.
He knew the same way I knew. North Korea TOLD us so, and I believe every word Kim Jong Il says, don't you?

I think perhaps the real reason is that if NK DID detonate a nuke, the people might demand Bush do the same with Korea as he did with Iraq. A lot of people think we had every right to kick Iraq's ass because they still believe Iraq was a threat to the U.S., and if a loon like Kim starts waving a-bombs around we are going to feel REALLY unsafe REALLY quick. That, plus N. Korea being on the "Axis of Evil" list and all might bring public support for a REAL war Bush wants no part of (and I'd agree with him on THAT).


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Sep 13, 2004, 07:11 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Scribbler1,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Scribbler1,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Melvyn,
There was a large physical disturbance over the weekend in North Korea. Secretary of State Colin Powell was quick to announce that it was not a nuclear event. This brings to mind some questions:

How would he know? Does he have scientific staff available for such analysis? Wouldn't that be the purview of CIA or NSA or even the Defense Intelligence Agency. If one of those agencies gathered and analysed the information, why would it be announced by the State Department? Aren't these the same types of data that would have come across the desks of the same people who were responsible for deciding that Saddam Hussein had WMD.
He knew the same way I knew. North Korea TOLD us so, and I believe every word Kim Jong Il says, don't you?

I think perhaps the real reason is that if NK DID detonate a nuke, the people might demand Bush do the same with Korea as he did with Iraq. A lot of people think we had every right to kick Iraq's ass because they still believe Iraq was a threat to the U.S., and if a loon like Kim starts waving a-bombs around we are going to feel REALLY unsafe REALLY quick. That, plus N. Korea being on the "Axis of Evil" list and all might bring public support for a REAL war Bush wants no part of (and I'd agree with him on THAT).[/b][/quote]

If North Korea gets the bomb and if they start throwing their weight around and if they continue to sell technology to enemies like Iran, then they would be our enemy. They would be a clear and present danger. This scenario is already partially fullfilled. Let the neocon cowards, who refused to pay attention to north Korea when they came into office, take up positions along the DMZ.


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