Gay Libertarians for Truth

[Compugasm]

I just heard a news report that Libertarians within some Arizona town, represent 1200 of 63000 (or 2%) of the voters. The reporter said that "Libertarians are insignifigant...". I wonder if the reporter thinks gays are insignifigant?

The numbers indicate between 2-3% of the population is gay. Gays seem to have quite a bit of power considering thir insignifigant representation. I propose that Libertarians become gay. Well, at least call themselves gay. We call ourselves GINO's (Gay's In Name Only). It's piggybacking on the "gay agenda" to further the Libertarian cause.

Sex sells, and frankly the constitution just isn't sexy. The MTV crowd finds Libertarians boring. Yet, its the party most closely representing their wishes. We've all seen the parades with "right to be gay blah blah blah" but the concept is instantly lost when the constitution is quoted or GWB is mentioned. Maybe if The Village People had a constitution dance? Con-sti-tu-tion has just as many syllables as "YMCA". Maybe a new band called The Founding Fathers. To capture hetrosexual swingers (as in voters) Brittany Spears could strategically cover her body with "We the people..." pieces of paper.

It seems like a perfect marriage between the two ideals. Under Libertarians, gays will receive the same privilage (or curse) of marriage, and Libertarians use the "Rock the Vote" marketing messages to double their power base.

I'm starting a new 527/501 called "Gay Libertarians for Truth" as a GINO. This GOP (Gay Olde Party) poll has been created to determine support for this organization.

[kharmajunkie]

Originally posted by Compugasm, The MTV crowd finds Libertarians boring. Yet, its the party most closely representing their wishes.

I totally agree; I wonder what they're scared of.


I would like to get in on your 527.
We're here, We're GINO, get used to it

[Evil Baby]

I don't know for sure but perhaps the reason homosexuals have more power is because they are better organized, also 2-3% of the total population of the U.S. is a littler larger then 1200 people. Something nation wide will get a lot more coverage then something from one state.

[bugsbunny04]

First of all, I voted yes. Second of all I believe gay men are disgusting, but third, its none of my business what they do, much less the gosh darn government's, and last but not least, lesbians (especially the ones that actually look like girls) are like, the coolest thing for the male audience since the advent of football.

Also, 2-3% of 300m=6-9m Now, lets use my high school as a focus group. The ratio of female-male homosexuals is approximately 2:1. This is consistent with the rate of total female-male population (also about 2:1 or so), so it is not really a surprise. That means that males and females have about the same ratio of gay per straight. Anybody wanna take a guess? Nah, Im not even going to go to the trouble because its not that important for our purposes. In any case, lets say we have about 9,000,000 mo's. That means 3,000,000 gay men, 6,000,000 million gay women. Ah what the hell, I'll go ahead and be thorough, that means that 3 out of every 100 men are gay and 3 out of every 100 women are gay.

Any questions?

[Kyran]

Hahaha, but the MTV crowd is fascinated by Carson Daley...

Seriously, if you want to get Mainstream Music Television behind you, you're asking for more trouble than it's worth. You should worry about the underground scene more. They'll DO something.

Piggybacking the gay agenda...but won't gay people hit on you more often? No thanks =).

How about this? Try getting in good with decent bands that share the libertarian view, and start sponsoring big concerts. Next, put the word out with the underground. Then you just set up a little booth wherever you're holding it and pass out promotional stuff, or sell it.

See, the thing about the left and the right is they are both too friggin pompous to do anything that cool. They don't wanna party with us common folk so they get a bunch of old fogeys in conference halls with fine dining and charge big money for it. If you'll setup something that PEOPLE will want to come to, and advertise a bit, they'll come.

[katar]

i think you will have more luck if you split the syllables another way: cons-tit-ution.

[Compugasm]

I admit the GINO name probably isn't the best. All the "X... for truth" stuff made it topical, and got my point across. Maybe I'll call it "The X Party", because "X":
* Applies to anyone.
* As a variable in math, represents the unknown.
* "Generation X" is next up on the political scene.
* Represents "X" taken away by government, for government.
* [fill in your own X's here]...

I agree, trying to gain wide support will not likely work. I am for whoever and whatever benefits us as a whole. Makes no difference WHO deems the message worthy. It could be MTV, or not.

the X Party doesn't seek national support, but has a national philosophy: Social freedom will derrive from economic freedom. The reverse, has proved to be false. Hot button issues which are just overturned in courts by the current system, is a waste of time and money. So, let big media fight over the "really important issues".

The X Party primarily handles local issues. National agendas should be avoided as they seem to be no-win arguments. An example issue I will address will be in a new thread, or we'll go off topic. Rather I'll define an exception to the "national support" statement: We all act under "The X Party" name. That's it. You simply agree to the above, and register yourself as "the X Party".

You could say it's more "act locally" or consumer advocate issues. There should be hundreds (Ha, or X number) of independant organizations. Example, "X Party: Hawaii, X Party:Buffalo, X Party:407 Main Street", whatever.

Under The X Party, a course of action is NOT determined by a central authority. But, there is a heirarchy, simply to address the "better organization" concerns. The central authority does NOT define a "party line" because there isn't one.

Just as likely to fail is electing one spokesman for the X Party. However, it is possible, one may naturally arise. Like a Badnarik, Jackson, or Nader type. It should still hold true this Spokesman does NOT represent a national view of X members, because there isn't one.

[Technosoul]

X marks the spot, err, x-rated?

X - spand you mind.

I do not support or belong to any group.

tech.

[Compugasm]

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Hahaha, ok. Maybe they don't want you.

[Compugasm]

Kyran, have you staged an event for positive change? I saw in another thread you have a band. Although I didn't listen to the music, I was just curious if you've done anything like you just suggested.

[Kyran]

No Comp, we haven't ever staged our own events. We've got friends that do. Our band is trying to enjoy the music without holding any core values or fighting for any specific cause. Over time I expect that to change. If someone holding a decent sized metal/rock event were to approach us with a cause related to the libertarian philosophy, I think the guys would respond in a good way.

We're still only half-through getting our material together, and largely unknown as of yet. You guys are part of the proud few who get to sample us before we take over.

[Compugasm]

My reason for starting this party: I'm going to work for causes that I can do something about/for, and In some small way, others benefit. Issues that are hardly important in the grand scheme of things when compared to "Immigrants and Global Warming". But, we'd all appreciate if something was actually done about it.

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Commicate from: "The X Party:Central Committee"

PREAMBLE: Improvement to checkout lanes at supermarkets.

Has anyone been into Fry's? If not, it's a huge electronics store. They only have one checkout line, yet I've never had to wait in line more than a minute. Holidays or whatever would be exceptions. However, everytime I goto the grocery store (Ralphs or Albertsons) it's taken up to 10 minutes.

I'm not suggesting my local supermarkets reorganize the checkout lanes, or store. If they wish to convert to a more effiecient means of checkout by using self-service checkouts, that is up to them. In the interim, I simply want additional checkout personel.

ASSERTION: Time - In San Diego, we've recently gone though a labor strike. Since that time, supermarkets have not been open 24hrs. They operate on a 12hr (10am - 10pm) schedual. This has been a large inconvienience to consumers. Most people still work 9-5 shifts, which leaves a 5hr window for grocery shopping. Workers on swing shifts are equally inconvieniened.

ASSERTION: Money - In finding stores more accomodating, supermarkets have lost revenue by forcing customers to Circle K or other "Quicky" marts with higher prices, and lower quality products. Supermarkets themselves, have probably lost business. Although, the loss of revenue is mostlikely acceptable due to the fewer hours of operation, and packing many more customers into smaller shopping windows.

ACTION: Formal request to reduce waitng times in checkout in Ralphs and Albertson stores. Stores encouraged to adopt more efficent methods. In the interim, serving the local community better by extending the hours of operation and/or staffing of additional checkout personel.

MOTION BY: Compugasm.
2nd BY: Paul Plumbly

[PatrickHenry]

Funny you should call it the X Party. There is already an X Party USA: http://members.aol.com/XPUS/ Expansionist Party USA.

Interesting philosophy. I wouldn't associate myself with homosexuals for political purposes. I actually seek common ground with the folks I do politics with. Coalitions are acceptable for pressure on specific issues, but as an overall political strategy, in my opinion, it's a loser.

[Compugasm]

Damn, I thought my X idea was original. However, after reading their site completely... this organization is nothing like mine. No wonder it's taken them 30 years to get two whole members.