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Sodfather · Nov 22, 2003, 07:47 pm

As most of you probably know, Faces of Death is a video series of real deaths and dead people, murders, and anything totally fucking disgusting.

As if that wasn't bad enough, I visited the site [http://www.facesofdeath.com/] and one description of a video from the series included a videotaped rape.

What the hell! A rape? First of all, how would they get their hands on a rape video? Second, how could it be legal for them to sell it? Third, what human being would circulate a taping of some poor woman being raped?

I will never see these movies...Ever. And if everything they state is true about teh movies being real, then I pray that the producers all meet horrible deaths.

cheesemage · Nov 22, 2003, 08:04 pm

There a lot of sick people out there, and this just goes to show how true that is.
I'm not sure which is worse the fact that there is a market for such things, or that the producers were willing to profit off such horrible things.

Impenitent · Nov 22, 2003, 08:18 pm

these faces of death movies have been around for over 25 years and snuff movies have been around ever since movies have been around... the human animal does not change...

Waychel · Nov 22, 2003, 09:25 pm

Although I haven't seen these tapes, they're originally from Japan, right?

Japan, as much as I love the country, is pretty fucked up from a sociological standpoint. Women get raped there, go to the police, and for the most part get laughed at. Unless, of course, the guys doing the raping are American. LOL

So, having the tape with the rape on it wouldn't be much of a crime, or an admittance of cooperation in it. Likewise, in Japan, if someone does something publicly (like commit suicide by jumping off a building) and it is caught on tape, the person taping it can freely distribute it as they wish, or sell it.

If this is the same series of tapes I am thinking of, then yes, they are 100% real (with the exception of the "specials"). There's worse stuff than rape on there. One of my friends saw one tape where these 3 Japanese high school girls both jumped out in front of a subway train at once (group suicide).

Why do people buy them? Because the Japanese are obsessed with death/violence, and there's nothing more scary or violent than seeing something real. That, and some of them are just extremely sick fucks.

Although, IMO, Takashi Miike films are much more disturbing.

John · Nov 23, 2003, 03:06 am

I have seen a few of the death scenes from faces of death.. One was footage of a man shooting a woman who was tied to a chair in the head, looked to be a .357 revolver. She was crying and clearly in distress before she was killed, as you would be, then bang, brains all over the wall.

Another one is what looks to be a politician giving a speech, then all of a sudden he pulls out a gun and shoots himself through the mouth.

And no, I didnt go out directly looking for these, I was looking for porn on kazaa and these were disguised as porn movies. I'd hate to see the reaction of someone with a weak stomach though, I don't want to sound all macho or crazy or anything, but the footage didnt bother me that much at all.

zkreso · Nov 23, 2003, 05:13 am

Argh that's sick :(
I remember there was some crazy japanese film with really explicit sex scenes that was banned for 25 years or something shown on the TV here the other day. Sick...

castille · Nov 26, 2003, 10:02 am

These things happen.

Be glad its on video....wait until you see somebody pull out a gun and blow someone else's brains out (its worse than the movies).

Frankly if people are into this stuff, then they can watch it. Its not harming anyone, and its like drugs: unless you kill someone as a result of using it, what is the harm?

Europe legalises drugs....some could call that sick.

Anarchist Patriot · Dec 13, 2003, 04:00 am

Yea, thats some sick sh*t. My ex actually liked watching that junk. It made me ill myself.

G. Adams · Dec 13, 2003, 12:06 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Waychel,)

Although, IMO, Takashi Miike films are much more disturbing.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Ichi the Killer is the strangest film I've ever seen.

A) Its not enjoyable to watch
B) If theres a message there its lost in the violence. And if its just the same 'obsession with violence in society' message its
C) Its damned confusing at times, and I've never came out of a film confused before.
D) It came off as an eastern variant of an eighties slasher films. The comedy in it was off putting, like the brothers pulling off the guys arms to see if they can.

The only saving grace was the guy playing the masochist, forgot his name, who had a great character.

darwinist · Dec 13, 2003, 12:36 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
These things happen.

Be glad its on video....wait until you see somebody pull out a gun and blow someone else's brains out (its worse than the movies).

Frankly if people are into this stuff, then they can watch it. Its not harming anyone, and its like drugs: unless you kill someone as a result of using it, what is the harm?

Europe legalises drugs....some could call that sick.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Where is the harm? You have got to be kidding me right?

Where do i even start... How about, when you produce one video and people say 'where is the harm?'. Then other sick people think, that it is ok to do this kind of thing. They go out and make there own movies of raping and killing. Creating a shock culture of violent videos...

Now that is sick!!!

Europeans legalise drugs??? You must be thinking of cannabis right?

A common mistake. One cannabis even in the Netherlands in not legal. It has been decriminized. Perhaps only a slight difference, but i thought it important to point out.

In my opinion, cannabis is no worse than legal drugs. ie- alcohol or nicotine. I think these drugs are more dangerous than cannabis.

I would rather walk past 20 people 'stoned' on the street. Than 20 'drunk' people.

Nicotine is highly addictive, even though they have been denying it for years. Where as cannabis is not.

Waychel · Dec 13, 2003, 03:14 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (G. Adams,)
Ichi the Killer is the strangest film I've ever seen.

A) Its not enjoyable to watch
B) If theres a message there its lost in the violence. And if its just the same 'obsession with violence in society' message its
C) Its damned confusing at times, and I've never came out of a film confused before.
D) It came off as an eastern variant of an eighties slasher films. The comedy in it was off putting, like the brothers pulling off the guys arms to see if they can.

The only saving grace was the guy playing the masochist, forgot his name, who had a great character.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Well, Ichi the Killer was supposed to be less serious and more comedic. I'd imagine that the main reason you found it hard to understand was that its a movie adaptation of a popular manga. You'd have to atleast familiarize yourself with the manga somewhat first to get the gist of the theme and humor.

If you want a more serious look at Takashi Miike, then I'd recommend the movie Audition.

G. Adams · Dec 13, 2003, 10:03 pm

Well its not helping for a serious look at Miike, but I saw Happiness of the Katakuris, and that was funny. Well bits were.

Oh and I should have added that Ichi was still visually beautiful, despite the excesses.

The Devil · Dec 14, 2003, 01:28 am

I've seen people be killed, and a guy get his dick cut off. And hell... I've seen worse. I'm desensitized.

darwinist · Dec 14, 2003, 06:21 am

Now that is sick.

Anyone being able to become desensitized to this 'shit'. Means they is far to much available. What is soceity coming too?

white rice · Dec 14, 2003, 07:02 am

There was a scene in Private Parts where some exec says that the demographic who loves Howard Stern listened in for 2 hours, and the demographic that totally hated his guts (which surpassed his supporters in his ratings) listened for 5 hours. The reason? They wanted to know what he was going to do next.

I also think the morbid sadomasochistic impulses some people have is how the mind indulges after being socially conditioned to repress the base impulses of sex, violence, and death. I wonder what the demand for these shock tapes are in Europe compared to the US and Japan.

Waychel · Dec 14, 2003, 02:39 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (darwinist,)
Now that is sick.

Anyone being able to become desensitized to this 'shit'. Means they is far to much available. What is soceity coming too?<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Not society - it is called "The Internet" my friend. =D

The Devil · Dec 14, 2003, 03:20 pm

I chose to become desensitized... very few things can still bother me. When you're desensitized, you can look at things for what they really are, rather than what you've been taught they are.

darwinist · Dec 14, 2003, 05:42 pm

Hi Devil,

I have a couple of questions.

1) Why would you choose to become desensitized?

2) What are 'things' really?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
I chose to become desensitized... very few things can still bother me. When you're desensitized, you can look at things for what they really are, rather than what you've been taught they are.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

The Devil · Dec 14, 2003, 08:36 pm

1. It makes you a stronger person.
2. Things can be anything from death, to knee surgery, to a razorblade dildo.

darwinist · Dec 17, 2003, 11:30 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
I chose to become desensitized... very few things can still bother me. When you're desensitized, you can look at things for what they really are, rather than what you've been taught they are.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

No, i meant. You said above. You can see things for what they really are?

What do you mean?

Example, please!

Nov 22, 2003, 08:18 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	these faces of death movies have been around for over 25 years and snuff movies have been around ever since movies have been around... the human animal does not change... "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Nov 22, 2003, 09:25 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Waychel Supercalifragilistic Posts: 431	Although I haven't seen these tapes, they're originally from Japan, right? Japan, as much as I love the country, is pretty fucked up from a sociological standpoint. Women get raped there, go to the police, and for the most part get laughed at. Unless, of course, the guys doing the raping are American. LOL So, having the tape with the rape on it wouldn't be much of a crime, or an admittance of cooperation in it. Likewise, in Japan, if someone does something publicly (like commit suicide by jumping off a building) and it is caught on tape, the person taping it can freely distribute it as they wish, or sell it. If this is the same series of tapes I am thinking of, then yes, they are 100% real (with the exception of the "specials"). There's worse stuff than rape on there. One of my friends saw one tape where these 3 Japanese high school girls both jumped out in front of a subway train at once (group suicide). Why do people buy them? Because the Japanese are obsessed with death/violence, and there's nothing more scary or violent than seeing something real. That, and some of them are just extremely sick fucks. Although, IMO, Takashi Miike films are much more disturbing. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

Nov 23, 2003, 03:06 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
John Molten Ash Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 118	I have seen a few of the death scenes from faces of death.. One was footage of a man shooting a woman who was tied to a chair in the head, looked to be a .357 revolver. She was crying and clearly in distress before she was killed, as you would be, then bang, brains all over the wall. Another one is what looks to be a politician giving a speech, then all of a sudden he pulls out a gun and shoots himself through the mouth. And no, I didnt go out directly looking for these, I was looking for porn on kazaa and these were disguised as porn movies. I'd hate to see the reaction of someone with a weak stomach though, I don't want to sound all macho or crazy or anything, but the footage didnt bother me that much at all. Only the dead have seen the end of war - Plato

Nov 26, 2003, 10:02 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	These things happen. Be glad its on video....wait until you see somebody pull out a gun and blow someone else's brains out (its worse than the movies). Frankly if people are into this stuff, then they can watch it. Its not harming anyone, and its like drugs: unless you kill someone as a result of using it, what is the harm? Europe legalises drugs....some could call that sick. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Dec 13, 2003, 12:06 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,161	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Waychel,) Although, IMO, Takashi Miike films are much more disturbing.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Ichi the Killer is the strangest film I've ever seen. A) Its not enjoyable to watch B) If theres a message there its lost in the violence. And if its just the same 'obsession with violence in society' message its C) Its damned confusing at times, and I've never came out of a film confused before. D) It came off as an eastern variant of an eighties slasher films. The comedy in it was off putting, like the brothers pulling off the guys arms to see if they can. The only saving grace was the guy playing the masochist, forgot his name, who had a great character. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

Nov 22, 2003, 07:47 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Sodfather Igneous Magma Posts: 327	As most of you probably know, Faces of Death is a video series of real deaths and dead people, murders, and anything totally fucking disgusting. As if that wasn't bad enough, I visited the site [http://www.facesofdeath.com/] and one description of a video from the series included a videotaped rape. What the hell! A rape? First of all, how would they get their hands on a rape video? Second, how could it be legal for them to sell it? Third, what human being would circulate a taping of some poor woman being raped? I will never see these movies...Ever. And if everything they state is true about teh movies being real, then I pray that the producers all meet horrible deaths.

Nov 22, 2003, 08:04 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
cheesemage Molten Ash Posts: 57	There a lot of sick people out there, and this just goes to show how true that is. I'm not sure which is worse the fact that there is a market for such things, or that the producers were willing to profit off such horrible things.

Nov 23, 2003, 05:13 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
zkreso Sedimentary Rock Location: Norway Posts: 21	Argh that's sick :( I remember there was some crazy japanese film with really explicit sex scenes that was banned for 25 years or something shown on the TV here the other day. Sick...

Dec 13, 2003, 04:00 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
Anarchist Patriot Molten Ash Posts: 143	Yea, thats some sick sh*t. My ex actually liked watching that junk. It made me ill myself.

Dec 13, 2003, 12:36 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
darwinist Igneous Magma Location: Netherlands Posts: 200	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by These things happen. Be glad its on video....wait until you see somebody pull out a gun and blow someone else's brains out (its worse than the movies). Frankly if people are into this stuff, then they can watch it. Its not harming anyone, and its like drugs: unless you kill someone as a result of using it, what is the harm? Europe legalises drugs....some could call that sick.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Where is the harm? You have got to be kidding me right? Where do i even start... How about, when you produce one video and people say 'where is the harm?'. Then other sick people think, that it is ok to do this kind of thing. They go out and make there own movies of raping and killing. Creating a shock culture of violent videos... Now that is sick!!! Europeans legalise drugs??? You must be thinking of cannabis right? A common mistake. One cannabis even in the Netherlands in not legal. It has been decriminized. Perhaps only a slight difference, but i thought it important to point out. In my opinion, cannabis is no worse than legal drugs. ie- alcohol or nicotine. I think these drugs are more dangerous than cannabis. I would rather walk past 20 people 'stoned' on the street. Than 20 'drunk' people. Nicotine is highly addictive, even though they have been denying it for years. Where as cannabis is not. What goes 'up', must come 'down', unless it goes around and round.

Dec 13, 2003, 03:14 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
Waychel Supercalifragilistic Posts: 431	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (G. Adams,) Ichi the Killer is the strangest film I've ever seen. A) Its not enjoyable to watch B) If theres a message there its lost in the violence. And if its just the same 'obsession with violence in society' message its C) Its damned confusing at times, and I've never came out of a film confused before. D) It came off as an eastern variant of an eighties slasher films. The comedy in it was off putting, like the brothers pulling off the guys arms to see if they can. The only saving grace was the guy playing the masochist, forgot his name, who had a great character.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Well, Ichi the Killer was supposed to be less serious and more comedic. I'd imagine that the main reason you found it hard to understand was that its a movie adaptation of a popular manga. You'd have to atleast familiarize yourself with the manga somewhat first to get the gist of the theme and humor. If you want a more serious look at Takashi Miike, then I'd recommend the movie Audition. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

Dec 13, 2003, 10:03 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,161	Well its not helping for a serious look at Miike, but I saw Happiness of the Katakuris, and that was funny. Well bits were. Oh and I should have added that Ichi was still visually beautiful, despite the excesses. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

Dec 14, 2003, 01:28 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
The Devil Molten Ash Location: Canada Posts: 55	I've seen people be killed, and a guy get his dick cut off. And hell... I've seen worse. I'm desensitized.

Dec 14, 2003, 06:21 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
darwinist Igneous Magma Location: Netherlands Posts: 200	Now that is sick. Anyone being able to become desensitized to this 'shit'. Means they is far to much available. What is soceity coming too? What goes 'up', must come 'down', unless it goes around and round.

Dec 14, 2003, 07:02 am	#15 (permalink) (top)
white rice Igneous Magma Posts: 372	There was a scene in Private Parts where some exec says that the demographic who loves Howard Stern listened in for 2 hours, and the demographic that totally hated his guts (which surpassed his supporters in his ratings) listened for 5 hours. The reason? They wanted to know what he was going to do next. I also think the morbid sadomasochistic impulses some people have is how the mind indulges after being socially conditioned to repress the base impulses of sex, violence, and death. I wonder what the demand for these shock tapes are in Europe compared to the US and Japan. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

Dec 14, 2003, 02:39 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
Waychel Supercalifragilistic Posts: 431	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (darwinist,) Now that is sick. Anyone being able to become desensitized to this 'shit'. Means they is far to much available. What is soceity coming too?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Not society - it is called "The Internet" my friend. =D Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

Dec 14, 2003, 03:20 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
The Devil Molten Ash Location: Canada Posts: 55	I chose to become desensitized... very few things can still bother me. When you're desensitized, you can look at things for what they really are, rather than what you've been taught they are.

Dec 14, 2003, 05:42 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
darwinist Igneous Magma Location: Netherlands Posts: 200	Hi Devil, I have a couple of questions. 1) Why would you choose to become desensitized? 2) What are 'things' really? </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by I chose to become desensitized... very few things can still bother me. When you're desensitized, you can look at things for what they really are, rather than what you've been taught they are.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> What goes 'up', must come 'down', unless it goes around and round.

Dec 14, 2003, 08:36 pm	#19 (permalink) (top)
The Devil Molten Ash Location: Canada Posts: 55	1. It makes you a stronger person. 2. Things can be anything from death, to knee surgery, to a razorblade dildo.

Dec 17, 2003, 11:30 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
darwinist Igneous Magma Location: Netherlands Posts: 200	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by I chose to become desensitized... very few things can still bother me. When you're desensitized, you can look at things for what they really are, rather than what you've been taught they are.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> No, i meant. You said above. You can see things for what they really are? What do you mean? Example, please! What goes 'up', must come 'down', unless it goes around and round.