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EscVelocity · Jan 15, 2009, 11:48 am

What do you think would happen if Iran, Syria, Egypt or who ever decided to take action with Palestine, bombed and invaded Israel? This time they launched a surprise calculated strike? WW3? With everyone so po'ed at Israel right now, and the U.S...you think we would keep our allies?

Diogenes · Jan 15, 2009, 12:13 pm

If Iraq showed anything it showed that even US allies will not get involved in what they perceive to be an unjust war...or a misguided one...or one with ulterior motives.
Even the allies involved with the US in invading Iraq had to be given incentives.

So...if Egypt, Syria, Jordon, Saudi Arabia, etc...were to go to war with Israel...and the US was to get involved...I don't think anyone would help them...

but, by the same token...I don't think anyone would side against the US to help the Palestinians either.

I think the Israeli's know that Obama is not going to be a stanch supporter...like they've had with present and past administrations...and I think that is the primary reason for this conflict in Gaza...it was either now or wait until the next administration in eight years.

EscVelocity · Jan 15, 2009, 01:33 pm

I dunno with the Afghanistan conflict, war in Iraq, and the whole Israel conflict...To me it seems the middle east would feel backed in a corner, which could inevitably lead to a massive conflict. I mean really its either fight or flight, and I really don't see the middle east considering flight, as demonstrated by the underdog Palestine.

dixon · Jan 15, 2009, 04:28 pm

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What do you think would happen if Iran, Syria, Egypt or who ever decided to take action with Palestine, bombed and invaded Israel?

Same thing that happened in 48 and 67, they would get their asses kicked.

Plus Ultra · Jan 17, 2009, 10:35 pm

There are some who would throw their support behind anyone the US opposed or against whoever the US supported, for no other reason than knee-jerkian reaction. In a hypothetical that saw Israel (a longstanding US ally) attacked by a bunch of neighboring Muslim countries, its fairly obvious the US would support Israel so the critical lefties would all get behind the neighboring Muslim attackers.

I don't think popular support makes much of a difference though. I'm certain Israeli military capabilties, plus US support, would see them prevail no matter how much popular support Muslim neighbors had.

Chris the Chees · Jan 18, 2009, 08:41 am

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So whets wrong with that? They bought barren and empty full of swamps land .They settled and turned the country to paradise. Here is few quotes from Mark Twain that describes the land before the Zionists came.

It never belonged to them. They never controlled it. So there was nothing to steal

Thankfully this propaganda has been countered with other propaganda.

Quoting Mark Twain out of context on Palestine

Also read: -

Isn't it true that Palestine was destitute until Israelis made its desert bloom?

Jan 15, 2009, 12:13 pm	#102 (permalink)
Diogenes amgaM suoengI Posts: 2,957	If Iraq showed anything it showed that even US allies will not get involved in what they perceive to be an unjust war...or a misguided one...or one with ulterior motives. Even the allies involved with the US in invading Iraq had to be given incentives. So...if Egypt, Syria, Jordon, Saudi Arabia, etc...were to go to war with Israel...and the US was to get involved...I don't think anyone would help them... but, by the same token...I don't think anyone would side against the US to help the Palestinians either. I think the Israeli's know that Obama is not going to be a stanch supporter...like they've had with present and past administrations...and I think that is the primary reason for this conflict in Gaza...it was either now or wait until the next administration in eight years. The Wandering Turtle - Security Discussion - Rainbow Tables - Live Security Sessions - 960 AD-Free Full-Screen Game Play

Jan 15, 2009, 11:48 am	#101 (permalink)
EscVelocity Igneous Magma Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 337	What do you think would happen if Iran, Syria, Egypt or who ever decided to take action with Palestine, bombed and invaded Israel? This time they launched a surprise calculated strike? WW3? With everyone so po'ed at Israel right now, and the U.S...you think we would keep our allies?

Jan 15, 2009, 01:33 pm	#103 (permalink)
EscVelocity Igneous Magma Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 337	I dunno with the Afghanistan conflict, war in Iraq, and the whole Israel conflict...To me it seems the middle east would feel backed in a corner, which could inevitably lead to a massive conflict. I mean really its either fight or flight, and I really don't see the middle east considering flight, as demonstrated by the underdog Palestine.

Jan 17, 2009, 10:35 pm	#105 (permalink)
Plus Ultra Igneous Magma Posts: 410	There are some who would throw their support behind anyone the US opposed or against whoever the US supported, for no other reason than knee-jerkian reaction. In a hypothetical that saw Israel (a longstanding US ally) attacked by a bunch of neighboring Muslim countries, its fairly obvious the US would support Israel so the critical lefties would all get behind the neighboring Muslim attackers. I don't think popular support makes much of a difference though. I'm certain Israeli military capabilties, plus US support, would see them prevail no matter how much popular support Muslim neighbors had.