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Old Nov 18, 2003, 11:51 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Righty ho then. I thought I would take this oppurtunity to post some quotes, dealing with politics and the likes. Join in, and hopefully we'll have a great database of quotes!

"Later, in school, you were told the same things. You were taught that God had made the world and that all is well; that there must be rich and poor, and that you should respect the rich and be content with your lot. You were told that your country stands for justice, and that you must obey the law. The teacher, the priest, and the preacher all impressed it upon you that your life is ordained by God and that 'His will be done.' And when you saw a poor man dragged off to prison, they told you that he was bad because he had stolen something, and that it was a great crime."

"You know that it has not. You know that the Christian Church, like all other churches, has always been on the side of the masters, against the people. More: the church has caused worse strife and bloodshed than all the wars of kings and kaisers. Religion has divided mankind into opposing beliefs, and the most bloody wars have been fought on account of religious differences. The church has persecuted people for their opinions, imprisoned and killed them. The Catholic Inquisition terrorized the whole world, tortured so-called heretics, and burned them alive. Other churches did the same when they had the power. They always sought to enslave and exploit the people, to keep them in ignorance and darkness. They condemned every effort of man to develop his mind, to advance, to improve his condition. They damned science, and silenced the men who thirsted for knowledge. Till this very day institutionalized religion is the Judas of its alleged Savior. It approves of murder and war, of wage slavery and capitalistic robbery, and always stands for the 'law and order' which crucified the Nazarene."

"What is the thing we call government? Is it anything else but organized violence? The law orders you to do this or not to do that, and if you fail to obey, it will compel you by force. We are not discussing just now whether it is right or wrong, whether it should or should not be so. just now we are interested in the fact that it is so---that all government, all law and authority finally rest on force and violence. on punishment or the fear of punishment."

"As long as flags fly above us no one's really free."

Hope you enjoyed, fell free to post your own quotes.
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 12:00 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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"I am the one, Orgasmatron, the outstretched grasping hand
My image is of agony, my servants rape the land
Obsequious and arrogant, clandestine and vain
Two thousand years of misery, of torture in my name
Hypocrisy made paramount, paranoia the law
My name is called religion, sadistic, sacred whore.

I twist the truth, I rule the world, my crown is called deceit
I am the emperor of lies, you grovel at my feet
I rob you and I slaughter you, your downfall is my gain
And still you play the sycophant and revel in your pain
And all my promises are lies, all my love is hate
I am the politician, and I decide your fate

I march before a martyred world, an army for the fight
I speak of great heroic days, of victory and might
I hold a banner drenched in blood, I urge you to be brave
I lead you to your destiny, I lead you to your grave
Your bones will build my palaces, your eyes will stud my crown
For I am Mars, the god of war, and I will cut you down." -L. Kilmister


"I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..."
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 12:03 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Impenitent, I actually agree with you on that one. Wow.

P.S. What does orgasmatron mean, I couldn't find it at dictionary.com
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 12:20 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I believe orgasmatron is an allusion referring to mindless, repeating religious ecstasy...


"I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..."
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 12:24 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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"Upon this theological instinct I make war: I find the tracks of it everywhere. Whoever has theological blood in his veins is shifty and dishonourable in all things. The pathetic thing that grows out of this condition is called faith: in other words, closing one's eyes upon one's self once for all, to avoid suffering the sight of incurable falsehood. People erect a concept of morality, of virtue, of holiness upon this false view of all things; they ground good conscience upon faulty vision; they argue that no other sort of vision has value any more, once they have made theirs sacrosanct with the names of "God," "salvation" and "eternity." I unearth this theological instinct in all directions: it is the most widespread and the most subterranean form of falsehood to be found on earth. Whatever a theologian regards as true must be false: there you have almost a criterion of truth. His profound instinct of self-preservation stands against truth ever coming into honour in any way, or even getting stated. Wherever the influence of theologians is felt there is a transvaluation of values, and the concepts "true" and "false" are forced to change places: what ever is most damaging to life is there called "true," and whatever exalts it, intensifies it, approves it, justifies it and makes it triumphant is there called "false."... When theologians, working through the "consciences" of princes (or of peoples--), stretch out their hands for power, there is never any doubt as to the fundamental issue: the will to make an end, the nihilistic will exerts that power... "
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 12:26 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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I think one should identify the author of the quotes


"I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..."
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 12:29 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Sorry, the one's I quoted in my first post were all Alexander Berkman, and the last one I quoted was Nietzsche.
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 01:07 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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"In lonely gas stations with mini-marts
You'll find rows of them for sale
Liquor-filled statues of Elvis Presley
Drink like a vampire
His disciples flock to such a fitting shrine
Sprawled across from his graceless mansion
A shopping mall
Filled with prayer rugs and Elvis dolls

And I wonder
Yeah I wonder
Will Elvis take the place of Jesus in a thousand years

Religious wars
Barbaric laws
Bloodshed worldwide
Over what's left of his myth

A growing boy needs his lunch

When pesticides get banned we're safe up north
We just sell them to those other countries
Soon there's lots of exotic deformed babies
Somehow that's not our fault

Just dip 'em in glaze paint 'em orange and green
For the Arizona roadside stands
To sell alongside plaster burros and birthbaths

And I wonder
Yeah I wonder
Why so many insects around us feed off the dead

Death squads
Starvation
Foreign aid?
Just leave it to the magic of the marketplace

A growing boy needs his lunch

Everyone should just love each other
Dip your toe into the fire
Drop your guns and lawsuits and love each other
Life begins beyond the bunker
And while you're busy hugging in the streets
Outgrowing your hatred for all to feel
Jiminy Cricket's found a game to play
Stick your neck out and trust-It'll be chopped away
Jimmy through your locked front doors
Rifle through your sacred drawers
Line my pockets
Deface your dreams
Til the cows come home to me

Nibbling like an earwig winding through your brain
Bound like Lawrence Harvey spreadeagle to a bed
The migraine gets worse when we find out we lay eggs
And no one in all of Borneo can hear you scream

Turn on
Tune in
Cop out

Drop kick Turn in Tune out" -J Biafra


"I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..."
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 03:04 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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"So you been to school for a year or two
And you know you've seen it all
In daddy's car thinkin' you'll go far
Back east your type don't crawl
Play ethnicky jazz to parade your snazz
On your five grand stereo
Braggin that you know how the niggers feel cold
And the slums got so much soul

It's time to taste what you most fear
Right Guard will not help you here
Brace yourself, my dear

It's a holiday in Cambodia
It's tough kid, but it's life
It's a holiday in Cambodia
Don't forget to pack a wife

Your a star-belly sneech you suck like a leech
You want everyone to act like you
Kiss ass while you bitch so you can get rich
But your boss gets richer on you
Well you'll work harder with a gun in your back
For a bowl of rice a day
Slave for soldiers til you starve
Then your head skewered on a stake
Now you can go where people are one
Now you can go where they get things done
What you need my son:

Is a holiday in Cambodia
Where people dress in black
A holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll kiss ass or crack

Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot, Pol Pot [etc.]

And it's a holiday in Cambodia
Where you'll do what you're told
A holiday in Cambodia
Where the slums got so much soul

Pol Pot" -J Biafra


"I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..."
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 03:21 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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"Finally got to Washington in the middle of the night
I couldn't wait
I headed straight for the Capitol Mall
My heart began to pound
Yahoo! It really exists
The American International Pictures logo

I looked up at that Capitol Building
Couldn't help but wonder why
I felt like saying "Hello, old friend"

Walked up the hill to touch it
Then I unzipped my pants
And pissed on it when nobody was looking

Like a great eternal Klansman
With his two flashing red eyes
Turn around he's always watching
The Washington monument pricks the sky
With flags like pubic hair ringed 'round the bottom

The symbols of our heritage
Lit up proudly in the night
Somehow fits to see the homeless people
Passed out on the lawn

So this is where it happens
The power games and bribes
All lobbying for a piece of ass

Of the stars and stripes of corruption
Makes me feel so ashamed
To be an American
When we're too stuck up to learn from our mistakes
Trying to start another Viet Nam
Whilke fiddling while Rome burns at home
The Boss says, "You're laid off. Blame the Japanese"
"America's back," alright
At the game it plays the worst
Strip mining the world like a slave plantation

No wonder others hate us
And the Hitlers we handpick
To bleed their people dry
For our evil empire

The drug we're fed
To make us like it
Is God and country with a bang

People we know who should know better
Howl, "America rules. Let's go to war!"
Business scams are what's worth dying for

Are the Soviets our worst enemy?
We're destroying ourselves instead
Who cares about our civil rights
As long as I get paid?

The blind Me-Generation
Doesn't care if life's a lie

so easily used, so proud to enforce

The stars and stripes of corruption
Let's bring it all down!
Tell me who's the real patriots
The Archie Bunker slobs waving flags?
Or the people with the guts to work
For some real change
Rednecks and bombs don't make us strong
We loot the world, yet we can't even feed ourselves
Our real test of strength is caring
Not the toys of war we sell the world
Just carry on, thankful to be farmed like worms
Old glory for a blanket
As you suck on your thumbs

Real freedom scares you
'Cos it means responsibility

So you chicken out and threaten me

Saying, "Love it or leave it"
I'll get beat up if I criticize it
You say you'll fight to the death
To save your worthless flag

If you want a banana republic that bad
Why don't you go move to one
But what can just one of us do?
Against all that money and power
Trying to crush us into roaches?

We don't destroy society in a day
Until we change ourselves first
From the inside out

We can start by not lying so much
And treating other people like dirt
It's easy not to base our lives
On how much we can scam

And you know
It feels good to lift that monkey off our backs

I'm thankful I live in a place
Where I can say the things I do
Without being taken out and shot
So I'm on guard against the goons
Trying to take my rights away
We've got to rise above the need for cops and laws

Let kids learn communication
Instead of schools pushing competition
How about more art and theater instead of sports?

People will always do drugs
Let's legalize them
Crime drops when the mob can't price them
Budget's in the red?
Let's tax religion

No one will do it for us
We'll just have to fix ourselves
Honesty ain't all that hard
Just put Rambo back inside your pants
Causing trouble for the system is much more fun

Thank you for the toilet paper
But your flag is meaningless to me
Look around, we're all people
Who needs countries anyway?

Our land, I love it too
I think I love it more than you
I care enough to fight

The stars and stripes of corruption
Let's bring it all down!
If we don't try
If we just lie
If we can't find
A way to do it better than this
Who will?" -J Biafra

"Step right up folks

Anarchy for sale!
T-shirts only 10 dollars
Badges only 3.50
I nicked the design, never asked the band
I never listen to them either

Buy Buy Buy from Circle A
Like hula hoops, it's a disposable craze
Another fast-food fad to throw away

Get your Anarchy For Sale
Anarchy For Sale
Anarchy For Sale" -J Biafra

" TV invents a disease
You think you have
So you buy our drugs
And soon you depend on them
Pain is in your mind
Gotcha comin' back for more
Again and again and again and again
Gonna rip you off
Rip you off

Doctor says you need surgery now
Feelin' good 'til the side effects
Fuck up something else
You're ensnared by the medicine man
Paying up the ass
Again and again
Gonna rip you off

Trust your mechanic to mend your car
Bring it in to his garage
He tightens and loosens a few spare parts
One thing's fixed, another falls apart
And the rich eat you

A magazine says your face don't look quite right
Unless you wear our brand new wonder creme tonight
Never look right again
Unless you grease your skin
Again and again and again and again
Gonna rip you off

Told you're depressed
So of course you see the psychiatrist
Right when you hit your neuroses' roots
He confuses you
He fucks your head up worse
Gotcha feeling helpless
You're comin' back for more
Again and again
Gonna rip you off
Rip you off

Trust your mechanic
To make you well
You're seeing an awful lot of him now
The quicker he makes your life fall apart
The more money you put in his pockets

Trust your mechanic
To plug your holes
Trust him to make more
Somewhere else
Trust your mechanic
He'll always come through
And rip you off" -J Biafra

and the politicians and preachers will as well...


"I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..."
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 03:40 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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He said quotes, not epic poems. :D

This thread seems to encourage spam but what the hell...

[color=red]Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once.[/color]

Caesar in Shakespeare's Tragedy of Julius Caesar

[color=red]Restore your spirits and dismiss your gloomy fear; and perhaps at some time it will be pleasing to remember these things.[/color]

Aeneas from Vergil's Aeneid
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 03:40 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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"Waiting for the winds of change
To sweep the clouds away
Waiting for the rainbow's end
To cast its gold your way
Countless ways
You pass the days

Waiting for someone to call
And turn your world around
Looking for an answer
To the question you have found
Looking for
An open door

You don't get something for nothing
You can't have freedom for free
You won't get wise
With the sleep still in your eyes
No matter what your dreams might be

What you own is your own kingdom
What you do is your own glory
What you love is your own power
What you live is your own story
In your head is the answer
Let it guide you along
Let your heart be the anchor
And the beat of your own song

You don't get something for nothing
You can't have freedom for free
You won't get wise
With the sleep still in your eyes
No matter what your dreams might be" -N Peart, G Lee


"I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..."
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 06:08 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.


Wilfred Own (1893-1918)


Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Winston Churchill
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 06:15 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Then cherish pity, lest you drive an angel from your door.

Holy Thursday (Innocence) Songs of Innocence and Experience, William Blake

Is this a holy thing to see
In a rich and fruitful land,
Babes reduc'd to misery,
Fed with cold and usurous hand?


Holy Thursday (Experience) Songs of Innocence and Experience, William Blake

Ah hell why quote, just read William Blakes Innocence and Experience. It is the greatest collection of poems, ever, and that it came from one person is astounding.


Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 08:53 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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"Yippie ki yay mother fucker" -B Willis, Die Hard


"I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..."
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Nov 18, 2003, 09:19 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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"The denial of chance.— No victor believes in chance." -Nietzsche


"I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..."
insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...
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Old Nov 20, 2003, 01:18 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,)
I believe orgasmatron is an allusion referring to mindless, repeating religious ecstasy...<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

I think it was also the ball in the Woody Allen movie "Sleeper" which when held, gave people an orgasm. :)


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Nov 20, 2003, 01:36 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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"It is justice, not charity, that is wanting in this world." Mary Wollstonecraft 1792

"There is no such thing as a nonpolitical speech by a politician." Richard M. Nixon 1955

"In ninety-nine cases out of a hundred, when there is a quarrel between two states, it is generally occasioned by some blunder of a ministry." Benjamin Disraeli 1858

"You may be right. I may be crazy." Billy Joel (who the hell knows what year)

(4 quotes for the price of one)


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Nov 21, 2003, 11:08 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are."
-Roosevelt

"There are two types of people in society; the followers and the leaders. No matter how society changes, these people will never change."
-Roosevelt

"Look buddy, I'm tired, I've walked over 2000 miles, and I've talked to hundreds of people. Are you gonna buy my chicken idea or not?"
-Colonel Sanders, on his final successful attempt to create the idea of KFC

"There are people in this world who persist in criticising everything and anything they can. I call them the losers. What about the winners? They deal with the current situation, and do their very best with their available resources."
-Unknown

"Look, if I ate steak every day I wouldnt be so rich. So I'm getting a Big Mac meal."
-Warren Buffet, on amazed stares from workers when trying to buy his lunch.

"Microsoft? Who the hell cares about Microsoft? I'm running my own goddamn computer company, and if Microsoft wants to compete with me, its their own problem."
-A friend of mine, on starting his computer company

"Well look kid. You've got 2 choices. You can keep being a Communist and go to those rallies, or you can become an entrepreneur and make some real changes to the world. Hey, I figure if people keep saying corporations have all the power, why not start your own corporation?"
-My true mentor, and the guy who got me away from Communism. I still have his approximate words in my notebooks.

"You've made 4 businesses, but what the hell! All of them are about money. Video delivery, automated laundry delivery, what the christ is this? You're not going to change the world delivering videos to rich old farts. What, you think Microsoft is going to be scared by a kid delivering videos? How about sticking your head into the clouds, coming up with a crazy dream, and pursueing that dream?"
-The same mentor, only 4 weeks ago. Well I followed his advice and set up a publishing company for a young entrepreneur magazine.


Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.
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