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Old Aug 18, 2004, 02:23 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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EU to build wall after blasting Israel's
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'European hypocrisy is as rank as it is blatant'
Posted: August 17, 2004
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By Aaron Klein
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Just one month after the U.N. and EU launched a furious campaign against Israel's security fence, culminating in the International Court of Justice ruling that the fence is illegal, the EU announced it's planning to build a separation fence of its own, and invited Israel to participate in the construction.

The fence is being built to separate recently added EU members Poland and Hungary from their new neighbors – Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. The EU said the fence is necessary to "prevent the free movement of migrants seeking to enter" EU territory.

Israeli companies that specialize in the construction of fences and security systems will participate in tenders to build hundreds of miles of fences along the EU's new eastern border.

"It's incredible the EU has no problem building a fence just to keep illegal immigrants out, but when the Jewish State builds a security fence as a last resort for the purpose of keeping terrorists out and saving Israeli lives, we are blasted by them and the U.N.," a spokesman for Ariel Sharon told WorldNetDaily. "Makes you think, doesn't it?"

Israel's publicly traded Magal Security Systems, which participated in the construction of the West Bank security fence, is expected to sign a cooperation agreement for building the new EU fence and its attendant command-and-control systems.

The ultimate contract is estimated to be worth several hundred million dollars. Each kilometer of Israel's fence cost $1 million to build. Bases, sophisticated transit points, and observation and command-and-control systems cost $2 million per kilometer.

In July, the U.N.'s high court ruled Israel's security fence, which is credited with keeping suicide bombers out, violates international law and must be dismantled.

The court, which Israel maintains has no jurisdiction over Israeli matters, ruled "[it] is not convinced that the specific course Israel has chosen for the wall was necessary to attain its security objectives."

A week later, the U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly adopted a resolution demanding that Israel comply with the world court decision and tear down the security fence. Most European countries voted against Israel.

"European hypocrisy is as rank as it is blatant," Daniel Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum, told WorldNetDaily. "And the EU wall is not even for security reasons, just economic ones."
Will it ever end?


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Old Aug 18, 2004, 02:57 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Next thing we know Israel will be buiding a fense for the USA along it's southwestern boarder with Mexico.

We had one poster here who thought that outsourcing jobs was okay because of a moral perspective "that people in other countries deserve jobs", and yet, when it comes to them crossing our boarders to seek American jobs we hear another song, "no, they cannot come here and take all out jobs". Hypocritical?

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Old Aug 18, 2004, 08:17 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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'European hypocrisy is as rank as it is blatant'
are they building it over russian territory then, like the israelis are building over palestinian territory?


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Old Aug 18, 2004, 08:34 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Hypocritical?
Not at all. Legal immigrants are welcome.


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Old Aug 18, 2004, 08:58 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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the problem is that the legal terms automatically cuts out a large proportion, or the majority of the world population. that's when they turn to 'illegal' means.


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Old Aug 18, 2004, 11:16 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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...like the israelis are building over palestinian territory?
Its not Palestinian territory it's disputed and its future will be decided in negotiation between Israel and Palestinians when the violence from Palestinian side will stop and the situation will just the same before Intifada.
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Old Aug 18, 2004, 12:00 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Fences between countries where ever they are are just plain bad news.
We should be trying to get past each others differences rather than highlighting them.


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Old Aug 18, 2004, 08:16 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Its not Palestinian territory it's disputed and its future will be decided in negotiation between Israel and Palestinians when the violence from Palestinian side will stop and the situation will just the same before Intifada.
it's only disputed by the israelis. the international community has overwhelmingly agreed it is sovereign palestinian territory.


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Old Aug 18, 2004, 08:18 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Point me to the part where you explain why anyone cares what the "international community" thinks? The world hates Israel, you act like they are being objective.

There is no such country as Palestine.


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Old Aug 18, 2004, 08:24 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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they only "hate" israel because it continues to defy international consensus and UN resolutions. israel is a rogue state with blatant disregard for human rights of arabs.

no one likes hamas or arafat either. while some euro countris are one-sided in their criticism of israel, this is probably viewed by them as 'balancing up' the US bias in favour of israel.

btw, palestine are competing as a nation at the olympics.


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Old Aug 18, 2004, 08:37 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Ohhhh those poooooor Palestinians. Maybe they should stop blowing people up.

I really like how Israel blows up a couple Hamas terrorists and it is murder, Pallies blow up a restaurant full of women and children and they're freedom fighters.

I'm sure Palestine is a nation competing in the Olympics, after all, countries who hate the Jews (or their sponsor) continue to push the idea that it still exists.

Of course Israel defies everyone's favorite warm-fuzzy pipe-dream, "international law." Why would they tear down their wall? Because the French said they were being mean, keeping the terrorists from doing their sacred duty? Haha, yeah.

I'll take a democracy over another Islamic dictatorship anyday, even if it's population of the Arabs' favorite boogiemen, the Jews, jumps by a couple hundred percent.

The Israelis once thought like you do, that they should be touchy-feely and try to accommodate the PA. Thus the election of Barak and his proposals. The PA responded to this generosity by blowing more people up. Thus, the election of Sharon and the decision to play hardball. Where is the part where I'm supposed to feel sorry for these people?


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Old Aug 18, 2004, 08:51 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Originally posted by Comrade,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Comrade,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I really like how Israel blows up a couple Hamas terrorists and it is murder, Pallies blow up a restaurant full of women and children and they're freedom fighters.[/b]

you make it sound like it's the israelis being slaughtered, with only a few palestinians being killed in retaliation. that's far from the truth.

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I'll take a democracy over another Islamic dictatorship anyday, even if it's population of the Arabs' favorite boogiemen, the Jews, jumps by a couple hundred percent.
it's a well-known fact that the arab population in israel is growing much faster than the jewish population. tell me: when they overtake the jewish popln. and elect arab leaders to the Knesset, will israel continue to honour it's democratic mandate?

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The Israelis once thought like you do, that they should be touchy-feely and try to accommodate the PA. Thus the election of Barak and his proposals. The PA responded to this generosity by blowing more people up. Thus, the election of Sharon and the decision to play hardball. Where is the part where I'm supposed to feel sorry for these people? [/quote]
who got closer to a solution: barak or sharon?

once arafat is out of the way, a barak govt is a much more viable option for both sides than sharon's war platform.


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Old Aug 19, 2004, 02:49 am   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Old Aug 19, 2004, 07:56 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Ohhhh those poooooor Palestinians. Maybe they should stop blowing people up.
I don't know your age but from now on I'll concider you 14 - 15 years old.

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I really like how Israel blows up a couple Hamas terrorists and it is murder, Pallies blow up a restaurant full of women and children and they're freedom fighters.
Who calls them freedom fighters (in Europe)? Not me or anyone I've ever talked to. This is a concept I know people like you have a hard time grasping, but please try:
They're both wrong
I know you can't imagine the cowboy and indian in that one, but it's worth a minute of thought anyways.

I'm so damn tired of adult people thinking this black-and-white, no wonder things are so fucked up.
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Old Aug 19, 2004, 07:52 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Now Paavo - We defend the Nation of Israel.....which up until a couple of decades ago was called Is'ntreal....but thanks? to Hitler? They're now a Reality and as Revelations says...they have a wall....and the UN is having a debate about that very wall. I'm Christian so We are here to Defend the Jews, You like Jesus feel pity for them, but they haven't any pity for Us. If they strike You for Protecting Israel, you might blame it on me....but technically its 87% of Us. The Bible equates those people to Our Enemy, and Our Leaders are Playing Us right into it......
wait till Iran hits US Soldiers with Nuclear or Chemical......


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Old Aug 20, 2004, 11:35 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Am I hearing this correctly? Is someone saying that the American policy should should support someone's interpretation of the Book of Revelations? That our military should be used to help fullfill, or to conform too, some sort of biblical prediction or program?

what is your answer?

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Old Aug 20, 2004, 12:06 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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I want to hear this answer too.

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Old Aug 20, 2004, 04:37 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Dieval... I find it hard to believe a Bush supporter would be making "bones" about the meaning of hypocrisy.

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Old Aug 20, 2004, 05:06 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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The Answer is, Yes We protect Israel based on the Bible, people who wish to profit from a perceived second coming like to use Revelations to see how the world piecesshould be moved around for optimum effect, if it makes ya feel any better, we also protect Israel because they control Our banking and non support would send us into a depression.


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Old Aug 20, 2004, 05:36 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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we also protect Israel because they control Our banking and non support would send us into a depression.
USA didn't support Israel till 67 and nothing happened to American economics not to mention it refused to take Jewish refuges during WW2 and send them back to concentration camp and Jews in USA back then didn't care.
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