Bush Vs Kerry: objective comparison

[BushFan04]

This site does an excellent job comparing Bush & Kerry on a variety of issues:

http://bushfan.com/BushVsKerry.html

[Ross]

In a totally objective and fair way!</sarcasm>

Just rhetoric.

[Yankeefan21]

"President Bush understands that matters relating to pregnancy, the health of the mother and the baby are best decided not by Doctors and parents, but by middle-aged, white, male politicians."


I would venture to ask if this site is a joke but knowing the mindsight of the neo-con bush supporter....  

[PatrickHenry]

The site is a satire.

BushFan04, you should come and debate here. This site is not for new members to ghost through and point to their sites, then take off like a honeybee to the next flower. Someone like you must have a few things to say. You replied just once to your first post(also a new topic post, like this). Please remain and post some replies.

[Samildanach]

Yes with that URL title I can see its going to be highly objective.

bush's resume is full of failures and blunders. his economic record is horrendous, his environmental record is shameful, his military role is questionable, he does not hold to ethics or the law, and continues to favor elitism and threatening our constitutional rights. he is a corrupt, vile, and deranged leader who has weakened our nation. why should we reelect him?

[BushFan04]

samildanach, you may be surprised if you bothered to read it with an open mind.

[PatrickHenry]

Good to see you back, BushFan04. :rolleyes:

[Howard Roarke]

Bush has an admirable record.

Just to cite a few things;

1) Economy is growing at it's fastest pace in 20 years.

2) Unelmployment lower than when Clinton ran for re-election.

3) Inflation lower than when Clinton ran for re-election.

4) Interest rates lower than when Clinton ran for re-election.

5) Instead of chasing interns, Bush is chasing, and killing, terrorists.

6) He has lowered taxes for all working Americans.

7) America is stronger in every measure


It's nice to have the adults in charge. It will be good to see them in charge for another 4 years after Kerry gets pounded in November.



On the contrary, what does Kerry have?

He has a 20 year record of doing nothing in the Senate which is why he spent hardly any time citing his record in his acceptance speech.

He's a big fat zero and if the Swiftboat Vets don't dispose of him his nothing Senate career and endless number of flip-flops will.

He's been set up by Bill and Hillary to fail so that ugly hag can run in 08.
They knew the Swiftboat Veterans would come after him and take him down.
The Clintons may be dirtbags but they're not stupid.


Bush 40 States. Count on it.

[PatrickHenry]

Originally posted by Howard Roarke, Bush has an admirable record. Just to cite a few things; 1) Economy is growing at it's fastest pace in 20 years. 2) Unelmployment lower than when Clinton ran for re-election. 3) Inflation lower than when Clinton ran for re-election. 4) Interest rates lower than when Clinton ran for re-election. 5) Instead of chasing interns, Bush is chasing, and killing, terrorists. 6) He has lowered taxes for all working Americans. 7) America is stronger in every measure

Nice rhetoric, optimist. Got any sources for your happy dance?

[Howard Roarke]

Nice rhetoric, optimist. Got any sources for your happy dance?

1)http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/30/news...y/gdp/?cnn=yes

2)www.bls.gov 5.5% now 5.6% 1996

3)


4) Interest Rates "Very, Very Low." CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNNfn ANCHOR, STREET SWEEP: "This is why I always like to sort of remind our viewers who are individual investors, that 1 percent fed funds rate, which is where the fed has you know, target rates right now, is very, very low. 45-year lows, 25 basis points. On top of that, still leaves interest rates very, very low." (CNNfN's "Street Sweep," 6/2/04)


5) Pretty obvious isn't it?

6) Every bracket has receved tax relief under Bush

7) Two threats to the world have been eradicated.


Any questions, pessimist?

[kharmajunkie]

"two threats to the world have been eradicated". What are you referring to? Kudos to you though Howard for bringing back a GOP fave; calling people pessimists if they are against your boy. I have
to say, it's a lot more refreshing than "bushhater" or "bushbasher".
And that tax break doesn't help too much when everything's gone up except wages.

[PatrickHenry]

"Pessimist" was a fair return for the "optimtist" crack, kj, lay off. I have real issues with the economy, Bush policies, etc. I'll go into them later, and try to be objective and faithful to the title of the topic. Something I don't believe the location cited by BushFan04 is capable of.

Side comment: I'm unsure how I feel about "stealth sites" like bushfan.com. I despise the neocons generally, and Bush in particular, but shouldn't those with an agenda be open about it? Well, I guess satire has its place...

[kharmajunkie]

Yea, I noticed the "optimist" comment right after I posted. Busted!
I was being defensive; I thought he was pulling a Bob Novak/liberals are pessimists rant.
My objective comparison is that their differences are subtle at best.
I'm not excited about either guy; they're in a lot of the same corporate pockets. My problems with Bush relate to his handling of the economy, cultural issues and his poor attitude toward his constituency. If I did vote for Kerry in November, it's based solely
on fear of Bush with a couple of Supreme Court appointments to ponder over.

[Comrade]

If you expect an objective analysis of Bush here, you are mistaken. As far as these people are concerned, Bush is the spawn of Satan and is guilty of every crime in the book up to and including the mass genocide of the dinosaurs (he did it for the oil).

[Howard Roarke]

"two threats to the world have been eradicated". What are you referring to?

Afghanistan and Iraq. Don't you follow the news?

Kudos to you though Howard for bringing back a GOP fave; calling people pessimists if they are against your boy.

I think it's fair to say that bad news for the country helps your candidate and it's pretty clear that the American left wants to portray everything as bad news, when in reality there is a ton of good news out there.

And that tax break doesn't help too much when everything's gone up except wages.

Claims and generalities do not bolster an argument.

What is everything?

Oh, and wages have gone up. +$0.05(p) in Jul 2004 www.bls.gov

[PatrickHenry]

Originally posted by Comrade, If you expect an objective analysis of Bush here, you are mistaken. As far as these people are concerned, Bush is the spawn of Satan and is guilty of every crime in the book up to and including the mass genocide of the dinosaurs (he did it for the oil).

[SIZE=2]"these people"?[/SIZE] You are the hater around here, Comrade. I am surprised you haunt this place, you hate us so much. Your hate leads you to make shit up, like the dinosaur crack.

I couldn't count how many times I have read "you hate Bush" from your keyboard. [SIZE=2]Objectivity[/SIZE] leads to a disrespect for that squatter in the Oval Office, but hate is overstating the case. More like fear mixed with scorn.

[kharmajunkie]

Originally posted by Comrade, is guilty of every crime in the book up to and including the mass genocide of the dinosaurs (he did it for the oil).

LOL That's a classic line.

[kharmajunkie]

He's not my candidate Howard; I'm not a big fan of the two-party system. I took what you said out of context as you can see from PH's and my posts from the previous page. I had that reaction though because many Repubs tend to cry "pessimism" when people point out one of our nation's or government's flaws. I prefer to acknowledge the problem and try to fix them; not sweep them under the rug or throw money at it and start a federal program.

[m5lange1]

Comrade If you expect an objective analysis of Bush here, you are mistaken.

Bush does take a horrible beating here.

Mr. Vichiio Don't drink of the Kerry koolaide so fast there guy. CASUSE HE REFUSES TO RELEASE THE RECORDS THAT ARE AT THE HEART OF THE SBFVT CHARGES. Knightpass Maybe they just dont share your view that Bush isnt unworthy of office. Maybe they feel that Bush is worthy, or the lesser of two evils at the very least. Nephilim Did you say the same thing when MoveON, the millions of $ Soros used in ads, and Michael Moore smeared Bush? Bush also served his nation and is a veteran, or does your argument only apply to COMBAT veterans? If so, what did you say about Clinton the draft dodger? Comrade Well, we could have someone who bumbles through speeches or we can have someone with no principles and shifts his policies with the political wind. Compugasm Kerrys recent statement, does not to answer the questions posed, but sidestep and charge that the swifties are basically "soft money" supporters. All the anti-Bush organizations are exactly the same thing.