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Old Aug 6, 2004, 03:33 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Addressing minority journalists in the nation's capital, Kerry was asked what he would have done as president the moment he received word of the attacks on the World Trade Center. Bush spent seven minutes listening to "The Pet Goat" being read at a Florida elementary school after his chief of staff, Andrew Card, whispered, "America is under attack," as televisions cameras recorded the anxious scene.

"I would have told those kids very politely and nicely that the president of the United States had something that he needed to attend to," Kerry said before flying to Missouri to resume his cross-country campaign trip. "And I would have attended to it."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2.../5/203747.shtml
Pretty harsh words I would say. But then, Mr. Kerry also said this...

Which is the real John Kerry?



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Here's what the Massachusetts Democrat said July 8 when Larry King asked where he was on 9/11, according to CNN's own transcript:

'Nobody Could Think'

"I was in the Capitol. We'd just had a meeting - we'd just come into a leadership meeting in Tom Daschle's office, looking out at the Capitol. And as I came in, Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon. And then word came from the White House, they were evacuating, and we were to evacuate, and so we immediately began the evacuation."

How appropriate that Kerry lumps himself in with fellow leftist do-nothing non-thinkers such as Boxer, Daschle and Reid.

Thanks to the several readers today who sent us this fascinating bit from Blog for Bush: "the second plane hit the World Trade Center at 9:03 a.m., and the plane hit the Pentagon at 9:43 a.m. By Kerry's own words, he and his fellow senators sat there for forty minutes, realizing 'nobody could think.'"
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/6/92357.shtml
The man is his own worst enemy... he talks a great game, untill you realize, thats all he is. He made a nasty jab at Bush, sounds great, I give his speech writters props, its a good line. Sadly for them, wasted on a man who also said "we realized no one could think."

Does he expect the American People to think that he will magically become something more, if elected President??

Come on.


Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old Aug 6, 2004, 03:37 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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as if bush is better.

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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we."

"They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

pot.kettle.black, eh?


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Old Aug 6, 2004, 03:42 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Bishop...

lame man LAME.

Bush did a Bushism.. it happens. I wonder how you would sound if every word you spoke was recorded 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year... Wonder how many Bishopisms we could make pointless snippy comments about?

Its one thing to make snippy remarks as Mr. Kerry did, its another to be caught admitting "We realized no one could think.."

HUGE difference, night and day even.


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Old Aug 6, 2004, 04:26 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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yes... that couldn't possibly compare to this:

http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.php?r...t/jon_7131.html


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Old Aug 6, 2004, 04:26 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I think the Presidential folks responded well when it was first comprehended that they were not dealing with accidental plane crashes but a planned attack. I think in the first week Bush did d what could best be expected of him concerning that incident. I think that the majority of the people in the USA also responded "above expectations" in helping out the firefighters and what have you. If Kerry had been president then he would have been working on the same data in-put that Bush was working with (from the D.O.D. and other sources. And no doubt would have followed about the same pathways concerning Afganistan (and would have perhaps experienced the same moments of confusion as did Bush). A lot of the things Bush did was in conformity with pre-established plans that have been set in place for dealing with such an emergency. Those same response plans would have gone into effect if Kerry had been president.

I think folks are reading too much into the "goat story" story.

I think when Kerry was on the Larry King show he was letting Americans know that he was having the same feelings as the rest of us all shared in those first few hours during the 9-11 attacks. In the other statement Kerry was attempting to he would have been able to take command in a intelligent manner and that he would have done better then Bush - which he said for apperently political reasons to gain some votes in the next election. (such behavior is expected of a canadate running for office).

Honestly, walking out of that class room quicker would not have made much difference, now would it? Kerry was just using some tid-bit of information and with the advantage of quarter backing to make people think he is the best guy for the job of President - just politics.

It's all just hoopla. (best word I have for it off hand) and so do not be overly impressed by those political games. Look at what they intend to do if elected and what kinds of policy they advocate for the future when making your voting choices. (opinion of mine).

In other words vote for Kerry.

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Old Aug 6, 2004, 04:42 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, vote for the man whose done.. what in how many years in the senate?


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Old Aug 6, 2004, 05:38 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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did you look at the link?


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Old Aug 6, 2004, 05:59 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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V, you're grasping at straws with the "forty minutes of not thinking"
thing; it was very creative though. Then again so are all the people ripping on GW for staying in the classroom. This is just more proof of how petty the leaders of both parties are; trying to pick at how one reacts to a tragedy just seconds, minutes after it happens.


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Old Aug 6, 2004, 06:20 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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So about from petty abusing of the opposition's leader, is there any point to this thread?


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Old Aug 6, 2004, 07:42 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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You conveniently left out one tiny detail. Kerry was not the President and Bush was told DIRECTLY by an aide we were attacked. Kerry saw it on TV like the rest of us. I saw it live on MSNBC and even THEY didn't know what the hell was going on until after the second plane hit.

So what was Kerry supposed to do, mobilize troops? Although I doubt Bush really could have accomplished much during that lost time, he could have, and should have excused himself immediately. Maybe Kerry couldn't think. Niether could I. Bush, however didn't have the luxury of not thinking. He asked for the job of President and whether he could have done anything or not is a moot point. He didn't even bother to see IF he could do anything.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Aug 6, 2004, 11:41 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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i would expect kerry to react with the same razor-sharp instinct, judgment and decisiveness that earned him war-hero status


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Old Aug 6, 2004, 11:49 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route?
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Old Aug 6, 2004, 11:51 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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i would expect kerry to react with the same razor-sharp instinct, judgment and decisiveness that earned him war-hero status
www.swiftvets.com

Learn about your dear heroes true actions and judgement.

And then ask him to shut not only me up, but those guys as well and sign off on the release forms.


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Old Aug 7, 2004, 12:13 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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One of the Swiftboat Vets, a Commander, who wasn't on the makon delta when Kerry pulled the guy from the waters said that their were No rounds being fired in that area.....Whereas the Guy who was pulled from the water, Kerry & all his Mates and two other Swiftboat Captains & their Mates said that there was Heavy enemy fire in the area....So am I to take the word of a Man that wasn't even on the scene? Oh & Hey V, Bush's actions on 9/11 far outweigh Kerry's actions for the simple reason that Only Bush had the authority to order civilian planes shot down.....and for 7 minutes he remained in a place from which he couldn't make such authorizations....So to me it seems as if None of your theories in this post are anywhere near solid. Then again I've never Known You to be someone with Sound Theories on anything.


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Old Aug 7, 2004, 12:29 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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that commander, george elliot, is doing a lot of flip-flopping. one minute he's saying kerry is a war-hero, the next he's retracting his statements.

either he's battling alzheimer's or there's a bit of politicking going on there.

"i take it all back", and "no wait maybe i was right in the first place"..

look at it this way. at least kerry has people who can remember him serving


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Old Aug 7, 2004, 12:42 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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True G, but look at it this way....Smile V....If your a Yale grad and You volunteer for Vietnam and choose swiftboats and your initials are JFK...Your thinking for Your political future. The Texas Oil group that is blamed for the original JFK's assassination are friends of the Bush family and Kerry's that groups Frat brother...to me that screams "Create the New JFK" & have him be on Our side, so that if the People want the second coming of JFK...we won't have to send Our CIA to shoot the People's choice "Dead in the Streets"


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Old Aug 7, 2004, 12:44 am   #17 (permalink) (top)
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so are you saying that kerry is working with bush in a way?


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Old Aug 7, 2004, 12:51 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Maybe not Bush...so much as the People that Bush work for. Surely some differences are prevelant, but many issues are agreed upon. Kerry is forever linked to this Group, a lot goes on at that Yale Frat...a lot of Bonding/possible blackmail material is shared and once a year that group travels to meet and discuss "Plans" What blinds America is the Two party system, in which Americans see the differences on "Social" issues and Vote accordingly...Never realizing that the Two work together on Far more important "Plans"


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Old Aug 7, 2004, 01:01 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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yeah i'll go along with that. it disturbs me that these people come from exclusive and out-of-touch segments of society.

apart from serving in the military, they have little direct contact with the average person, their needs or their way of life.

bush knows more about royal saudi customs than how to order food at a roadside cafe


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Old Aug 7, 2004, 01:05 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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I've seen Dumbya act more Lovingly towards Saudi Royals, than His own Father....then again sending 1000 Men to Die, in order to get the Man who tried to Kill His Father....In a creepy way thats a lot of Love Right Thurr.


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