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Comrade · Aug 5, 2004, 11:37 am

http://blamebush.typepad.com/

He recounts how following Oprah's book club led him to select a Maya Angelou book from the library, tipping off the Patriot Act Nazis who promptly slandered his mail with greasy boogers.

Anyways, this is a good idea of how I, and I think a lot of people, regard the Michael-Moore-left. Very good satire.

Note the tagline: Because Bush is to blame for everything.
I'm sure a few of you agree.

bishop · Aug 5, 2004, 11:45 am

then, your logic must be that nothing is bush's fault or responsibility, eh?

Comrade · Aug 5, 2004, 11:47 am

Then, your logic is because I posted a site that makes fun of the tinfoil hat crowd, I believe Bush is a saint, eh?

What's that fallacy called, when you assume there are only the two extremes....

prettyredhead · Aug 5, 2004, 12:59 pm

Micheal Moore's film is a good film. Whatever Bush lovers want to say, cannot take away from the fact that his administration is a stinking bloody, dog pile. He is getting mind boggling rich.
And why should members of Senate or Congress NOT send their own children to war? Why must it again be the poorest in the country?
There is also 1 hour, 45 minutes of film to try to disprove. I am gonna wait.
And about the headline, may or may not be true. But the fact remains that it was in some paper, therefore it was news.
Prove him wrong. Go out, do your homework and prove MM wrong on all accounts. Do it. DOnt debate this without proof that MM is nothing but a liar.

bishop · Aug 5, 2004, 02:07 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Comrade,
Then, your logic is because I posted a site that makes fun of the tinfoil hat crowd, I believe Bush is a saint, eh?

What's that fallacy called, when you assume there are only the two extremes....

actually, i do believe in grey area.. my comments were directed at your persistently stupid comments like, "Because Bush is to blame for everything.
I'm sure a few of you agree.". idiotic comments like those are extreme themselves.

gr8fuldaniel · Aug 5, 2004, 06:08 pm

LOL, I like the pic, from your link. This is the one they should hang in the White House after we show him the door

From the
Fascist's Mouth

Dieval · Aug 5, 2004, 06:33 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by prettyredhead,
And why should members of Senate or Congress NOT send their own children to war?

First off we have a completely voluntary army. If children from members of congress or the senate want to volunteer they can, just as anyone else can.
Second, we do not send children to war.

kharmajunkie · Aug 5, 2004, 06:53 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dieval,

Second, we do not send children to war.

You sound like Bob Novak with this statement. It's so empty because you know that the context the word "children" was used meant "their children" grown children. Not sending little kids to war. Novak pulls this little end run on "crossfire" every other week; cheap ploy.

Dieval · Aug 5, 2004, 07:31 pm

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Second, we do not send children to war.

You sound like Bob Novak with this statement. It's so empty because you know that the context the word "children" was used meant "their children" grown children. Not sending little kids to war. Novak pulls this little end run on "crossfire" every other week; cheap ploy.[/b][/quote]
I know what they mean, but I'm sure they decided to use the word "children" for is specific double meaning to try to invoke sympathy for their cause, IMPLYING that we are sending young children - not grown children - out to fight our wars.

kharmajunkie · Aug 5, 2004, 07:41 pm

"double meaning", you're "sure they decided" No that is what you are
"implying" Dieval, don't try and spin out of it. You're really reaching with this one.

bishop · Aug 5, 2004, 07:42 pm

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First off we have a completely voluntary army.

i wonder how many of the people drafted in the "stop loss" program went there voluntarily.

m5lange1 · Aug 5, 2004, 07:47 pm

Hey,
Even if you do volunteer, hell even if you go underfire and save someone's life, political opponents will find some way to throw it in your face.

Aug 5, 2004, 11:37 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
Comrade Hot Lava Location: Texas Posts: 1,229	http://blamebush.typepad.com/ He recounts how following Oprah's book club led him to select a Maya Angelou book from the library, tipping off the Patriot Act Nazis who promptly slandered his mail with greasy boogers. Anyways, this is a good idea of how I, and I think a lot of people, regard the Michael-Moore-left. Very good satire. Note the tagline: Because Bush is to blame for everything. I'm sure a few of you agree. Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it? -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050121/480/watw10701210224 Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!

Aug 5, 2004, 11:45 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	then, your logic must be that nothing is bush's fault or responsibility, eh? hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Aug 5, 2004, 11:47 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Comrade Hot Lava Location: Texas Posts: 1,229	Then, your logic is because I posted a site that makes fun of the tinfoil hat crowd, I believe Bush is a saint, eh? What's that fallacy called, when you assume there are only the two extremes.... Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it? -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050121/480/watw10701210224 Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!

Aug 5, 2004, 06:08 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
gr8fuldaniel Fire the Liars Location: California Posts: 7,090	LOL, I like the pic, from your link. This is the one they should hang in the White House after we show him the door From the Fascist's Mouth ~~ Helpful Linx * Huff Post * WRH * RAW STORY ~~

Aug 5, 2004, 07:41 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
kharmajunkie year of the monkey Location: Milwaukee, Wi Posts: 663	"double meaning", you're "sure they decided" No that is what you are "implying" Dieval, don't try and spin out of it. You're really reaching with this one. Sanity is the playground of the unimaginative. anonomous Words we say, never seem to live up to the ones inside our heads. Chris Cornell

Aug 5, 2004, 12:59 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
prettyredhead Igneous Magma Posts: 336	Micheal Moore's film is a good film. Whatever Bush lovers want to say, cannot take away from the fact that his administration is a stinking bloody, dog pile. He is getting mind boggling rich. And why should members of Senate or Congress NOT send their own children to war? Why must it again be the poorest in the country? There is also 1 hour, 45 minutes of film to try to disprove. I am gonna wait. And about the headline, may or may not be true. But the fact remains that it was in some paper, therefore it was news. Prove him wrong. Go out, do your homework and prove MM wrong on all accounts. Do it. DOnt debate this without proof that MM is nothing but a liar.

Aug 5, 2004, 07:47 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
m5lange1 Igneous Magma Posts: 649	Hey, Even if you do volunteer, hell even if you go underfire and save someone's life, political opponents will find some way to throw it in your face. Protester against the culture war!!!!