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droque · Aug 18, 2004, 01:59 pm

Roque: Bishop do you realize that if the government did not practice monetary policies to create unemployment and underemployment the economy would end in a runaway inflation? HINDERED YOU SAY?

That if the government did not practice Supply Side policies to subsidize investments the economy would end a great depression! WHY SHOULD YOU CARE?

DO WE HAVE A FREE MARKET ECONOMY OR A GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED ECONOMY!

IS THIS ECONOMIC PROGRESS?

droque · Sep 9, 2004, 09:18 pm

THERE WILL NOT BE ANY ECONOMIC PROGRESS UNTIL ECONOMISTS LEARN HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND INFLATION!!!

DOES ANYONE HERE THINK THEY KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS???

bishop · Sep 9, 2004, 11:40 pm

heh, tell us oh wise and shouting one.

zzzzzz

droque · Sep 10, 2004, 10:22 am

BISHOP HOW WOULD YOU ACHIEVE EFFECTIVE DEMAND AND SUSTAINED GROWTH!

THAT IS WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO CREATE A GROWTH ECONOMY!!

IT TAKES MORE THAN SHOUTING TO WAKE YOU UP!!!

bishop · Sep 10, 2004, 12:08 pm

news flash buddy - the economy's been growing for decades, and so has demand.

droque · Sep 11, 2004, 11:18 am

Why than are millions unemployed and unable to afford health care, etc!

Why does the government need to subsidize the economy with its monetary policies and supply side tax cuts!

Take off your dark glasses or learn macroeconomics ignoramus!

Why did you fail to answer my question?

HOW WOULD YOU ACHIEVE EFFECTIVE DEMAND AND SUSTAINED GROWTH?

droque · Sep 11, 2004, 11:20 am

Quote:

Originally posted by bishop,
news flash buddy - the economy's been growing for decades, and so has demand.

Best to reply directly to your quote:

Why than are millions unemployed and unable to afford health care, etc!

Why does the government need to subsidize the economy with its monetary policies and supply side tax cuts!

Take off your dark glasses or learn macroeconomics ignoramus!

Why did you fail to answer my question?

HOW WOULD YOU ACHIEVE EFFECTIVE DEMAND AND SUSTAINED GROWTH?

bishop · Sep 12, 2004, 12:27 pm

who the hell are you calling an ignoramus???

i'm waiting for you to say something of substance rather than grandstanding and repeating the same favorite phrases over and over...

Quote:

BISHOP HOW WOULD YOU ACHIEVE EFFECTIVE DEMAND AND SUSTAINED GROWTH!

THAT IS WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO CREATE A GROWTH ECONOMY!!

i answered this by pointing out that the economy has been growing for DECADES. pretty goddamn sustained if you can get your head out of your seat.

if you wish to make a specific point, i'll respond to it - but i'm not about to lay down a full-blown economic model just for you to babble out the same lines again.

for all your flappin, i don't even think you know where i stand. you probably think i think bush is a great guy - even though there isn't a chance in hell that he's getting my vote.

droque · Sep 12, 2004, 02:23 pm

Bishop: "who the hell are you calling an ignoramus???"

DJR: You need to get new glasses--I'm quite sure I addressed my response to you! Are you ignorant about how to achieve effective demand and sustained growth? Answer the question I will not need to repeat it again. Or admit that you do not know!!

Bishop: "i'm waiting for you to say something of substance rather than grandstanding and repeating the same favorite phrases over and over..."

DJR: Just answer the question--do you know HOW WOULD YOU ACHIEVE EFFECTIVE DEMAND AND SUSTAINED GROWTH!!! Do you even understand the question, THAT IS WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO CREATE A GROWTH ECONOMY?

Bishop: "i answered this by pointing out that the economy has been growing for DECADES. pretty goddamn sustained if you can get your head out of your seat."

DJR: The economy has been growing for DECADES around three percent year after years; a far cry from creating a growth economy above nine percent yearly.

Bishop: "if you wish to make a specific point, i'll respond to it - but i'm not about to lay down a full-blown economic model just for you to babble out the same lines again."

DJR: Spare me; I'm quite sure you have no real knowledge of macroeconomics. I have repeatedly made a specific point that you continue to ignore. You do not know how to achieve effective demand and sustained growth--get off your ego and admit it!

Bishop: "for all your flappin, i don't even think you know where i stand. you probably think i think bush is a great guy - even though there isn't a chance in hell that he's getting my vote."

DJR: I care less where you stand--I'm only interested in learning if you know how to advance economic progress!!!! That would be important!

Compugasm · Sep 12, 2004, 04:03 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by bishop,
i'm waiting for you to say something of substance rather than grandstanding and repeating the same favorite phrases over and over...

I was going to say something about this myself yesterday. I found 6 active droque threads on Volcanvo all relating to BUSH AND THE ECONOMY, but decided to just ignore him rather than waste my time.

CORRECTION: He just revived the "Sustainable Development" thread to rant about the economy there. Bringing the total droque threads count to 7.

bishop · Sep 12, 2004, 06:06 pm

heh.. glad to see i'm not the only one who feels that way compugasm.. i'll take your que.

droque · Sep 21, 2004, 04:28 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Compugasm,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Compugasm,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-bishop,
i'm waiting for you to say something of substance rather than grandstanding and repeating the same favorite phrases over and over...

I was going to say something about this myself yesterday. I found 6 active droque threads on Volcanvo all relating to BUSH AND THE ECONOMY, but decided to just ignore him rather than waste my time.

CORRECTION: He just revived the "Sustainable Development" thread to rant about the economy there. Bringing the total droque threads count to 7.[/b][/quote]

Instead of rhetoric why don't you try answeing the questions being asked?

How whould you achieve evffective demand and sustained growth? It is the only way we can have real economi8c progress!

But you don't have a thought on the concept; so you'll go back to more rhetoric!!!

RIGHT?

bishop · Sep 21, 2004, 04:35 pm

why don't you answer it professor? :)

droque · Sep 21, 2004, 04:40 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Compugasm,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Compugasm,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-bishop,
i'm waiting for you to say something of substance rather than grandstanding and repeating the same favorite phrases over and over...

I was going to say something about this myself yesterday. I found 6 active droque threads on Volcanvo all relating to BUSH AND THE ECONOMY, but decided to just ignore him rather than waste my time.

CORRECTION: He just revived the "Sustainable Development" thread to rant about the economy there. Bringing the total droque threads count to 7.[/b][/quote]

So lets hear you say something of substance! The questions has everything to do with economic progress:

How would you achieve effective demand and sustained growth?

Don't have the slightest idea--RIGHT?

Too bad, I was hoping to learn something!

bishop · Sep 21, 2004, 06:12 pm

you seem more intent on lecturing.. so like i said, how about you answer it professor? :)

Compugasm · Sep 21, 2004, 07:14 pm

Quote:

Originally posted by droque,
Instead of rhetoric why don't you try answeing the questions being asked? How whould you achieve evffective demand and sustained growth? It is the only way we can have real economi8c progress! But you don't have a thought on the concept; so you'll go back to more rhetoric!

Chase you around all 7 threads? Your not interested in debate. Those threads contain nothing but shouting, insults, P-K-B ranting, and you never talk about anything else. All you do is return every few days to bump threads. I've got some woodscrews I've been looking forward to drilling into my toes. I think I'll get started.

bishop · Sep 21, 2004, 08:21 pm

like the days of the romans, thumbs down. butterface this.

Sep 21, 2004, 11:08 pm

http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/20/pf/raises_...dex.htm?cnn=yes

Raises to be bigger in '05
Companies expect to pay higher raises -- but not that much higher, according to survey.
September 21, 2004: 1:13 PM EDT

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Here's the good news: your pay raise next year should be higher than it was this year. Now the bad news: just barely.

---

aka good news inflation will kick in by next year from bush devaluing the USD >25%.

m5lange1 · Sep 28, 2004, 12:36 pm

Through my 50+ years I have heard politicos claiming credit for everything good that happens during their administrations and blaming everything bad on the house/and or senate which has been controlled by the opposite party. Or by pointing out what a horrific situation they inherited.

Through that time I have often wondered what a party would do if they ever got the majority in both houses, the executive branch, and got to start with a decent situation. They could surely claim credit but how would they be able to shuffle off the blame for the bad stuff....

WELLLLLL HHHHHEEEEEEER TIS FOLKS....

We have a party that
1. Holds the executive branch.
2. Holds the majority in the house and senate.
3. Inherited a surplus after years of deficit.
4. Has rebuilt the deficit to the largest in history.

I have always believed that THAT much obvious screwing up would finally force an admission. BUT NOOOOOOO.

There are people out there so blindly loyal that they are still finding ways to say this administration handeled the economy well.

And these are the same people who are screaming for accountability in schools? (or anywhere else for that matter)

Give me the strength to respect my fellow countrymen's lunacy.

Sep 9, 2004, 11:40 pm	#23 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	heh, tell us oh wise and shouting one. zzzzzz hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Sep 10, 2004, 12:08 pm	#25 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	news flash buddy - the economy's been growing for decades, and so has demand. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Sep 12, 2004, 06:06 pm	#31 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	heh.. glad to see i'm not the only one who feels that way compugasm.. i'll take your que. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Sep 21, 2004, 04:35 pm	#33 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	why don't you answer it professor? :) hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Sep 21, 2004, 06:12 pm	#35 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	you seem more intent on lecturing.. so like i said, how about you answer it professor? :) hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Aug 18, 2004, 01:59 pm	#21 (permalink) (top)
droque Molten Ash Posts: 114	Roque: Bishop do you realize that if the government did not practice monetary policies to create unemployment and underemployment the economy would end in a runaway inflation? HINDERED YOU SAY? That if the government did not practice Supply Side policies to subsidize investments the economy would end a great depression! WHY SHOULD YOU CARE? DO WE HAVE A FREE MARKET ECONOMY OR A GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED ECONOMY! IS THIS ECONOMIC PROGRESS?

Sep 9, 2004, 09:18 pm	#22 (permalink) (top)
droque Molten Ash Posts: 114	THERE WILL NOT BE ANY ECONOMIC PROGRESS UNTIL ECONOMISTS LEARN HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND INFLATION!!! DOES ANYONE HERE THINK THEY KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS???

Sep 10, 2004, 10:22 am	#24 (permalink) (top)
droque Molten Ash Posts: 114	BISHOP HOW WOULD YOU ACHIEVE EFFECTIVE DEMAND AND SUSTAINED GROWTH! THAT IS WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO CREATE A GROWTH ECONOMY!! IT TAKES MORE THAN SHOUTING TO WAKE YOU UP!!!

Sep 11, 2004, 11:18 am	#26 (permalink) (top)
droque Molten Ash Posts: 114	Why than are millions unemployed and unable to afford health care, etc! Why does the government need to subsidize the economy with its monetary policies and supply side tax cuts! Take off your dark glasses or learn macroeconomics ignoramus! Why did you fail to answer my question? HOW WOULD YOU ACHIEVE EFFECTIVE DEMAND AND SUSTAINED GROWTH?

Sep 12, 2004, 02:23 pm	#29 (permalink) (top)
droque Molten Ash Posts: 114	Bishop: "who the hell are you calling an ignoramus???" DJR: You need to get new glasses--I'm quite sure I addressed my response to you! Are you ignorant about how to achieve effective demand and sustained growth? Answer the question I will not need to repeat it again. Or admit that you do not know!! Bishop: "i'm waiting for you to say something of substance rather than grandstanding and repeating the same favorite phrases over and over..." DJR: Just answer the question--do you know HOW WOULD YOU ACHIEVE EFFECTIVE DEMAND AND SUSTAINED GROWTH!!! Do you even understand the question, THAT IS WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO CREATE A GROWTH ECONOMY? Bishop: "i answered this by pointing out that the economy has been growing for DECADES. pretty goddamn sustained if you can get your head out of your seat." DJR: The economy has been growing for DECADES around three percent year after years; a far cry from creating a growth economy above nine percent yearly. Bishop: "if you wish to make a specific point, i'll respond to it - but i'm not about to lay down a full-blown economic model just for you to babble out the same lines again." DJR: Spare me; I'm quite sure you have no real knowledge of macroeconomics. I have repeatedly made a specific point that you continue to ignore. You do not know how to achieve effective demand and sustained growth--get off your ego and admit it! Bishop: "for all your flappin, i don't even think you know where i stand. you probably think i think bush is a great guy - even though there isn't a chance in hell that he's getting my vote." DJR: I care less where you stand--I'm only interested in learning if you know how to advance economic progress!!!! That would be important!

Sep 21, 2004, 08:21 pm	#37 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	like the days of the romans, thumbs down. butterface this. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Sep 21, 2004, 11:08 pm	#38 (permalink) (top)
Bob_Dobbs Guest Posts: n/a	http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/20/pf/raises_...dex.htm?cnn=yes Raises to be bigger in '05 Companies expect to pay higher raises -- but not that much higher, according to survey. September 21, 2004: 1:13 PM EDT NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Here's the good news: your pay raise next year should be higher than it was this year. Now the bad news: just barely. --- aka good news inflation will kick in by next year from bush devaluing the USD >25%.

Sep 28, 2004, 12:36 pm	#39 (permalink) (top)
m5lange1 Igneous Magma Posts: 650	Through my 50+ years I have heard politicos claiming credit for everything good that happens during their administrations and blaming everything bad on the house/and or senate which has been controlled by the opposite party. Or by pointing out what a horrific situation they inherited. Through that time I have often wondered what a party would do if they ever got the majority in both houses, the executive branch, and got to start with a decent situation. They could surely claim credit but how would they be able to shuffle off the blame for the bad stuff.... WELLLLLL HHHHHEEEEEEER TIS FOLKS.... We have a party that 1. Holds the executive branch. 2. Holds the majority in the house and senate. 3. Inherited a surplus after years of deficit. 4. Has rebuilt the deficit to the largest in history. I have always believed that THAT much obvious screwing up would finally force an admission. BUT NOOOOOOO. There are people out there so blindly loyal that they are still finding ways to say this administration handeled the economy well. And these are the same people who are screaming for accountability in schools? (or anywhere else for that matter) Give me the strength to respect my fellow countrymen's lunacy. Protester against the culture war!!!!