Bogus 9/11 Truth Sites

Bogus 9/11 Truth Sites

Folks, the bovine excrement meter has hit new highs with the release of a hoax-umentary '9/11: In Plane Site'

The video, in the same vein as the 'pod' people and assorted nonsense, is "the most incompetent documentary ever produced."

Feast your eyes on the documented facts. Fringe conspiracy theorists are invited to see the truth and debate.

[Scribbler1]

Originally posted by StoneWT, Bogus 9/11 Truth Sites Folks, the bovine excrement meter has hit new highs with the release of a hoax-umentary '9/11: In Plane Site' The video, in the same vein as the 'pod' people and assorted nonsense, is "the most incompetent documentary ever produced." Feast your eyes on the documented facts. Fringe conspiracy theorists are invited to see the truth and debate.

Of course there will be references to the "evidence" by the Bush groupies to show all presidential critics are nutso frauds.

Hey, do you suppose Bush defenders might have had a hand in making this stuff? Is Donald Segretti still around? :)

[Young]

www.wanttoknow.info FACTS, Educate Yourself.....Today

[Section 8]

Don't just post links, actually take the time to paraphrase debate etc.

[Mr.Vicchio]

This well researched website has over 200 pages of explosive information on 9-11, all of it taken from major media sources. With each revealing statement, links are provided to the source article on a major media website. This allows for quick and easy verification, even on the above summaries. The evidence strongly suggests that 9-11 was allowed to happen by certain top government, military, and intelligence officials. After reading and verifying this information, you will never be able to look at 9-11 in the same way again. Available at www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline. For those with limited time, see the excellent summaries above. For a thoroughly researched, best-selling book on this, click here.

Yeah Young, very informative. I was looking for the instructions for making tinfoil hats, can you show me the link?

[Young]

Tin foil hat?

America’s top military leaders approved plans to commit acts of terrorism in US cities to trick the public into supporting a war against Cuba in the early 1960s. One proposal even involved hijacking planes as a false pretext for war. [ABC, 5/1/01]
15 of the 9-11 hijackers should have been denied entry to the US for faulty visa documents. [Washington Post, 10/22/02, ABC, 10/23/02] Two top Republican senators say that if State Department personnel had merely followed the law, 9-11 would not have happened. [AP, 12/18/02]
In the two years before 9-11, the military conducted exercises simulating hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets causing mass casualties. Targets included the Pentagon and WTC. Yet after 9/11, the White House and security officials repeatedly said they were shocked that terrorists hijacked airliners and crashed them into landmark buildings. [USA Today, 4/19/04] [Military District of Washington, 11/3/00] [New York Times, 10/3/01]
In the three months before 9-11, Russia, Germany, and Israel all warned the US of suicide plane hijackings against US targets. [Fox News, 5/17/02, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01]
On Aug 6, 2001, President Bush received an intelligence briefing warning that bin Laden might be planning to hijack commercial airliners. Titled “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US,” the briefing specifically mentions the WTC. Yet Bush later claimed it “said nothing about an attack on America.” [Washington Post, 4/11/04, White House, 4/11/04, Intelligence Briefing, 8/6/01]
On Sep 10, 2001 top Pentagon officials canceled travel plans for the next day, which was 9-11. [Newsweek, 9/24/01, fifth to the last paragraph]
Recovery experts extracted data from 32 damaged WTC computer drives revealing a surge in financial transactions on 9-11. Illegal transfers of over $100 million may have been made through WTC computer systems immediately before and during the disaster. [Reuters, 12/18/01]
Several of the 9-11 hijackers may have had training at US military installations, including lead hijacker Mohamed Atta. [Newsweek, 9/15/01, Washington Post, 9/16/01, New York Times, 9/15/01]
Bin Laden's family was taken under FBI supervision to a secret assembly point where they left the country on a private charter plane three days after the 9-11 attacks. [New York Times, 9/30/01][Boston Globe, 9/20/01]
Members of Congress said that the FBI, CIA, and Justice Department were not cooperating with the 9-11 inquiry. The president opposed an independent inquiry. [New York Times, 10/5/02, CBS, 5/23/02]


www.wanttoknow.info

Oh yea Sect 8.....the above is all you need to refute the idea that all 9/11 info sites are bogus...when you can make it easier for the children.....you have to or they won't be capable of learning.

[Scribbler1]

Originally posted by Section 8, Young- That was an example of a great post. Mr. V- You completely ignore all of Young's post, and insted post two line garbage that has nothing to do with debate.

Absolutely, right S8. Youngs post had all the elements I like to see in a debate. A point and sources to back it up. There are those who only believe the sources they agree with and have nothing but one liners to "back up" their opinions. These people have zero debating skills and prefer to go for the insult when confronted with anything they can't dispute. FWIW though, it is a measure of a successful post when the loudest critics of your point of view have to resort to "snappy" put downs without any substantive rebuttal.

These type of childish posts do not contribute to any debate and are wearing a little thin.

[Young]

Diev, V, Comi - BOMBSHELL

http://www.wanttoknow.info/020318chicagotribune.html

[Young]

Yes I used to Believe just what they told us too about 9/11 and i thought Bush was going to be a good leader, especially when he said we'd get the people who knocked those buildings down, i cheered when he said "Dead or Alive" Then Haliburton, Enron, Immigrattion, Debt, Saudi's, Business partners with Ladens, Iraq corner Oil market, WMD, man so much stuff to present for you to understand the reason...but the Key was when i saw how they benefitted from what came after 9/11.....i realized that they'd of never been shit without 9/11 and i realized that you'd have to plan ahead for stuff like that, and they Had, and I looked at bush and thougt "Parading as an Idiot"...."But sly enough kill thousands"....."and then swear he get whom ever he chose to blame" Then i saw that when i'd watch him, and i just knew, but i guess for many people its just not so easy....like the Hammer cracked my egg, and you're waiting on TNT...."Shock & Awe" Bush is creating more Terrorists than he capture/kills & thats plain as day evident....I worry about You sometimes V.....Your someone who never gets the joke till like the next day aren't ya....I bet you "Get Swindled" from time to time. This kinda Criminality isn't just obvious.....its Far worse than That. & Kerry's His Lil Frat brother....and Your pulling for the guy who represents your Morals which is Good, but your doomed either way you go.....and Bush is Horrible and i pray that you can actually see that and that your just doing this because your paid too, or you like foolin around.

[PatrickHenry]

Originally posted by Dieval, The site mentioned also has a Mind Control section, if you're interested... Mind Control ....I wonder if they tell you how to make tinfoil hats?

Oh, tinfoil hats... so clever.

Let me guess, you have not looked into the CIA's mind control program, huh? Because if you had, you wouldn't think it was such a lark.

MK Ultra was the designation for this "research". MK for Mind Kontrol. Look it up, I am not joking. They dosed unsuspecting citizens with LSD and a lot of other chemicals to see what might happen. They also used hypnosis, electric and microwave brain stimulation. There were, I seem to remember, 149 sub-projects in this vast program that extended over many years. The US Senate looked into it in the 1970s(I hope they wore their tinfoil hats) and found some of the worst government abuses ever.
http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultradocs.htm

http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultra0.htm

Concerned about rumors of communist brainwashing of POWs during the Korean war, in April 1953 CIA Director Allen Dulles authorized the MKULTRA program, which would later become notorious for the unusual and sometimes inhumane tests that the CIA financed. Reviewing the experiments five years later, one secrecy-conscious CIA auditor wrote: "Precautions must be taken not only to protect operations from exposure to enemy forces but also to conceal these activities from the American public in general. The knowledge that the agency is engaging in unethical and illicit activities would have serious repercussions in political and diplomatic circles." Though many of the documents related to MKULTRA were destroyed by the CIA in 1972, some records relating to the program have made it into the public domain, and the work of historians, investigative reporters, and various congressional committees has resulted in the release of enough information to make MKULTRA one of the most disturbing instances of intelligence community abuse on record. As writer Mark Zepezauer puts it, "the surviving history is nasty enough."

So, HA HA, mind control. I forgot to laugh...

Jeez, one prior topic moved to butterface because of inane chatter and a second one on the way to an early graveyard. People, STOP posting unrelated 9/11 subjects! My goodness, a topic about a particular bad theory isn't an invitation for your favorite link on a different theory you believe to be true. A 'no plane,' 'pod,' or 'bad analysis of video frames' debunking topic is not an invitation for a 'pet goat story' or 'everything under the sun slightly related to 9/11' link.
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Section 8,

Here goes:

1. Dave vonKleist's major claim to fame was writing a song dedicated to veterans suffering from Gulf War disease. I applaud him for that, but he has no qualifications for the 'evidence' presented in his atrocious video '9/11: In Plane Site'. Actually, the cute part is that that he admits on the advertisement site for the video to not drawing any conclusions. Just like FOX NEWS, he presents horribly twisted 'questions' using extremely weak 'evidence' and lets you 'decide.' Of course, if you take his crappy evidence at face value, you're gonna go down the rabbit hole and end up discrediting real research.

2. The 'evidence' presented is of such poor quality that, even if his basic questions (claims masked as such) were true, it wouldn't help at all. Staring at a bad video frame further altered by digitization and possible manipulation will only result in headaches.

3. The evidence presented is selective to the point of being absurd. A single witness statement, incomplete or taken out of context, is presented as the Gospel truth while the dozens of statements (hundreds if you dig hard enough) available on the Internet are ignored.

'In Plane Site' is the worst video on 9/11. There have been some horrible stinkers due to bad production value and asinine analysis, but this one takes the cake.

Simply click on the following link. You can also click on the link in the topic post, but the one below will take you directly to the analysis of the conspira-nut 'In Plane Site' section. However, feel free to browse the entire page as it has fascinating sections exposing
hoax theories.

"9/11: in plane site -- the worst film on the topic
is this grotesque incompetence, deliberate disinformation or a case of useful idiots used by covert operatives?"

Please, no blind responses. Don't reply unless you have read the link. Also, try to stay on topic.

[Young]

Stone - I have a Link for You now....

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timelin...restingday.html

[Section 8]

Dear god, this debate devolved pretty quickly. Number One-Half the points were off topic. Number Two- Personal attacks were high, and remember you need to debate the idea not the messenger. Number Three- There must've been ten thousand links to whattoknow.info, and the rest of the time the debate was based on obscure anaologies and no facts. Also, not every source that disagrees with you is a crackpot source.

The New American exposes the conspira-whackos:

Getting the Facts Straight
A growing number of people have been led to believe that an airliner did not hit the Pentagon on 9/11. However, in this case the "official version" of events is irrefutable.

Conspiracy Realities
The Internet and talk radio abound with ridiculous rumors and falsehoods dealing with conspiracy. Yet, there are many examples of the real thing.

The links above expose the idiocy of the paranoid kook-burgers. For the 397th time, it is shown that American Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. David Icke is a crackpot smearing the truth with his reptilain shapeshifting nonsense. Please, don't respond unless you have read the links above. Reading, in this case, does not consist of briefly skimming in order to find something you can take out of context and use to ignore the rest of the articles. It simply means reading the entire article.

[RicD]

The first post here says this:

"The video, in the same vein as the 'pod' people and assorted nonsense, is "the most incompetent documentary ever produced."

Same 'vein' as the 'pod people'?

The video in question shows from four different angles, the pod and the missile flash just before the plane hits the tower.

To come on here refuting this is to say "I am in the illuminati".

Either that, or you love to make people argue. Why would you discredit the video?!

Its like saying "The earth isn't round" no matter how much evidence you have of the fact, wake up FFS you're ruining it for the rest of us who have watched the video of the four different angles with the pod on the plane.

[Mr.Vicchio]

The video has been debunked, numerous times... How come, with cameras ALL over the story, there is not one good clear picture of the "pod and missile" but really fuzzy blurred images that capture this?





thier "proof" of all this.

Here is a real real Boeing: