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Old Sep 16, 2008, 08:41 am   #61 (permalink)
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Are you seriously claiming that McCain can make any statements about his POW status in support of his campaign without having such statements questioned?
When such claims have not been questioned during his lengthy stay in the Senate? Yes. Trying to find holes in the story now wreaks of a simple attempt to try and hurt the man because you already don't favor him, not because the truth is that important to you. Such attacks only serve to empower his supporters. Much like the equally asinine attacks against Obama claiming he's a Muslim.

Additionally, this whole crap adds to the PROBLEM with these elections in the first place that we aren't focusing on the ISSUES.


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Old Sep 16, 2008, 09:07 am   #62 (permalink)
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Trying to find holes in the story now wreaks of a simple attempt to try and hurt the man because you already don't favor him...
The truth is always a valid device in an election campaign. Also, since the second American election wreaking the "other guy" has been the standard course, like it or not.


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Old Sep 16, 2008, 09:16 am   #63 (permalink)
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The truth is always a valid device in an election
campaign.
Also, since the second American election wreaking the "other guy"
has been the standard course, like it or not.
These tactics are employed by both parties, and not only during election campaigns.

And these elections are basically stage managed:
[from the new york times]:
"Mr. McCain's advisers said that one
sign of Mr. Schmidt's increasing influence in the campaign's rapid response
operation was the quickness with which it seized on a remark by Gen. Wesley
K. Clark questioning whether Mr. McCain's experience as a naval aviator shot
down over Vietnam had qualified him to be president.

Mr. Schmidt ran the successful re-election campaign of Gov. Arnold
Schwarzenegger, the California Republican who won in a Democratic state by
embracing moderate positions on issues like the environment and gay rights.

Mr. Schmidt also served as communications director for the National
Republican Congressional Committee, a job that presumably offered him the
kind of district-by-district political education that could prove helpful in
making decisions about where to send Mr. McCain and what he should talk
about."

Mr. Schmidt sounds like a lawyer.

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Old Sep 16, 2008, 06:51 pm   #64 (permalink)
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Why won't McCain release his fully military records?
The same reason why I post under a pseudonym: freakin' privacy. Is a person allowed that anymore?


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Old Sep 16, 2008, 07:26 pm   #65 (permalink)
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The same reason why I post under a pseudonym: freakin' privacy. Is a person allowed that anymore?
Let me spell this out.

N O T W H E N Y O U ' R E R U N N I N G F O R P R E S I D E N T.

When you run for President , you'll have to tell us who you are. Sorry about that, Roger.


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Old Sep 18, 2008, 08:36 pm   #66 (permalink)
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McCain claims he was offered early release by the Vietnamese when they learned his father was an admiral, but he refused to leave the POW camp. How do you refuse to leave a POW camp? Is McCain saying that POWs had control over the Vietnamese releasing them or not? I may be wrong, but that sounds nuts. Since when do prisoners decide if they leave prison or not.
You just hit the J. McCain's whole profile fundamental issue.
You are correct that POW's are being released under certain conditions, and Only (!). It is being done by political deals (between interested bodies) mostly, and J. McCain was not the exception.

J. McCain's father - in rank of Admiral - was in charge of all military operations in that region at that time. Follow that data and you have all the answers you need, especially since no records are going to be released in that matter soon and/or ever.

Adding up J. McCain's military "achievements" together, you find the answer to J. (self-proclaimed) "Maverick" - McCain's "political career".

In short :
J. McCain's military career : a complete fiasco
J. McCain's political career : a politically impaired individual

P.S.
I am neither affiliated nor associated with Any political body.
My post serves nothing but data.
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Old Sep 23, 2008, 01:54 pm   #67 (permalink)
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Notwithstanding how disreputable I am, do you or don't you think McCain should release his military records as other Presidential candidates have done?
If those records are able, due to national security reasons, to be released then YES.

Don't you think Obama should release his thesis?


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Old Sep 23, 2008, 05:40 pm   #68 (permalink)
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Don't you think Obama should release his thesis?
Yes.


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