Bible banned in Colorado

[Porfyra]

Just recently Bill Ritter signed into law SB 200 saying that men can enter ladies restrooms in Colorado now. This opens the door for easy rape, and now women can't even feel safe going to the restroom. but that's not all.

Section 8. 24-34-701. Publishing of discriminative matter forbidden. No person, being the owner, lessee, proprietor, manager, superintendent, agent, or employee of any place of public accommodation ... shall publish, issue, circulate, send, distribute, give away, or display in any way, manner, or shape or by any means or method, except as provided in this section, any communication, paper, poster, folder, manuscript, book, pamphlet, writing, print, letter, notice, or advertisement of any kind, nature, or description that is intended or calculated to discriminate or actually discriminates against ... SEXUAL ORIENTATION, marital status ... in the matter of furnishing or neglecting or refusing to furnish to them or any one of them any lodging, housing, schooling, or tuition or any accommodation, right [marriage], privilege [adoption], advantage, or convenience ... on account of ... SEXUAL ORIENTATION, marital status ... [which] is unwelcome or objectionable or not acceptable, desired, or solicited.



The Bible contains several verses against homosexuality:

Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Leviticus 20:13: "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them."

Romans 1:18-32: "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. . .For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God, or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools. . .

"Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies might be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. . .

"For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire towards one another, men with men committed indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

"God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, malice; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice. . .without understanding. . . and, although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them."

I Corinthians 6:9: "Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."



check out these websites:

Go ahead: Arrest me
Magic City Morning Star: Homosexuals: Bible Banned in Colorado
Disloyal Opposition: Did Colorado ban the Bible?
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/402050.aspx
Legislator: Law allows banishment of Bible


the Bible has been banned in Colorado- this is directly going against America's freedom of speech and religion.

[ShadowFox]

I have a feeling this is a misunderstanding. Though, if someone does try to censor it, i have a feeling it won't last long after that.

[nerdvincent]

Quote by: Porfyra Just recently Bill Ritter signed into law SB 200 saying that men can enter ladies restrooms in Colorado now. This opens the door for easy rape, and now women can't even feel safe going to the restroom. but that's not all. [...] The Bible contains several verses against homosexuality: [...] the Bible has been banned in Colorado- this is directly going against America's freedom of speech and religion.

I completly disagree with this new resolution, although it's not a Bible matter. As you said, the problems is that since there is way more heterosexuals than homosexual, it would lead not only to easy rape, but to easy voyeurism and all that stuff. But the problem here aren't homosexuality but heterosexuality. Gays would go the the ladies and nothing bad would happen. Unfortunatly, there is nothing such as "homosexual VIP pass".

As for the "Bible being banned", I don't see what you are talking about. The day there will be public Bible auto de fe, I'll understand. But do not misinterpret "Bible loosing power on what it isn't supposed to influence" and "Bible being banned". On the contrary, if America got "freedom of religion", its laws should be based on philosophical concepts independent of any religion, and by no mean on christian dogma. Freedom of religion means having the right to practice your religion, not the right to impose it as a state law.
This would mean that I should be allowed to do my jogging naked because laws shouldn't be based on christian prudish dogma, but that since you are christian and that htere is freedom of religion you are free to wear 3 jackets under 2 sweatshirt and nobody would say anyting.

[Jinei]

Quote by: Porfyra Section 8. 24-34-701. Publishing of discriminative matter forbidden. No person, being the owner, lessee, proprietor, manager, superintendent, agent, or employee of any place of public accommodation ... shall publish, issue, circulate, send, distribute, give away, or display in any way, manner, or shape or by any means or method, except as provided in this section, any communication, paper, poster, folder, manuscript, book, pamphlet, writing, print, letter, notice, or advertisement of any kind, nature, or description that is intended or calculated to discriminate or actually discriminates against ... SEXUAL ORIENTATION, marital status ... in the matter of furnishing or neglecting or refusing to furnish to them or any one of them any lodging, housing, schooling, or tuition or any accommodation, right [marriage], privilege [adoption], advantage, or convenience ... on account of ... SEXUAL ORIENTATION, marital status ... [which] is unwelcome or objectionable or not acceptable, desired, or solicited.

Kepler's ghost! What a long sentence!

The Bible contains several verses against homosexuality: Leviticus 20:13: "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them."

Then in the name of God and all that is holy, let us hold public executions of open homosexuals so that we are in accordance with the laws of our Creator God. We should start in Colorado and from there spread the truth across the land. Who's with me?

[Red_Shadow]

Quote by: Jinei Kepler's ghost! What a long sentence! Then in the name of God and all that is holy, let us hold public executions of open homosexuals so that we are in accordance with the laws of our Creator God. We should start in Colorado and from there spread the truth across the land. Who's with me?

I am. And remember kids: Shellfish is an abomination, Just as homosexuality.

(I am so going to hell. )

[Thanatos]

Too bad?

Now look, as much as I would like to see evangelicals suffer even I would not interpret this in a way that it banned the Bible. Do you really think a judge ever would have? If there was an Olympics for windmill jousting you guys would be winning.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Some free speech concerns there, and the bathroom law is stupid, but I'm not concerned about the bible itself.

[Jack]

The Koran is just as intolerant as the Bible when it comes to homosexual practices. Why no wailing and gnashing of teeth about how this law subverts the Koran?

[GSM:Xtreme]

Quote by: Jack The Koran is just as intolerant as the Bible when it comes to homosexual practices. Why no wailing and gnashing of teeth about how this law subverts the Koran?

It's because the majority of the religous people here just happen to be brought up christian--mainly simply because their parents happened to be christian and not islamic, buddist, jewish, baptist, mormon, pastafarian, etc, and honestly couldn't give a rat's ass what the koran says, or havn't read it. Or flushed it down the shitt--erm, toilet-- along with the bible. But I'm getting the vibe that you already knew the answer to that rehtorical question and just wanted to get people thinking...

[grandpa]

Quote by: GSM:Xtreme It's because the majority of the religous people here just happen to be brought up christian--mainly simply because their parents happened to be christian and not islamic, buddist, jewish, baptist, mormon, pastafarian,

Is there a law that, in some way, doesn't contradict Christianity? Remember, we're discussing a very convoluted religion here. People only "know" it to be the truth if they pick and choose their favorite portions.

Grandpa h.

[ironeagle]

I was under the impression no government has the right to ban a book. Additionally if people wish to publish works saying something is an abomination they have that right under the rights of the constitution. Besides how is it any different to allow a book that says certain things are not sins? Since it is one person opinion over another persons no one can say difinatively if it is correct and if so which one is correct? This is why we do not have the right to ban ideas and beliefs nor do we have the right to ban religion, and the government doesn't have the right to take sides.

[Jack]

No one is banning the Bible. No one is advocating banning the Bible. That's just a rather hysterical reaction to the perfectly Constitutional practice of separating the state from the church. The minute anyone reminds the church that they have no business interfering in the business of state the church starts screaming that it's being discriminated against, persecuted even, and that the Bible is being banned. The church, by being based on emotions alone, produces more drama queens than ever graced a San Francisco club stage.

[ironeagle]

That's only your narrow minded opinion. Yet most good Christians mind their own business while liberal, christian/religion haters are busy constantly stirring up the pot about everything they do. Including the fact they don't like that their choices could be sinful, since they wish to do it it should just be accepted by others, well that's not the way it works. If people don't like the bible then they shouldn't read it, if by chance they are right and no god exists, then what harm can a text possible cause them? Is it really because many who do these things that are considered wrong, do believe in God or some form of religion, but just want the Lord to change the bible so they don't have to think they are committing sin? That's what I think it is.

[adam10312]

"Banning" the bible implies that no one is allowed to have it. The law does not say that. It says no one can sell it in any place of "public accomodation". If this means publicly owned places like libraries, then there is nothing wrong with this.

You are allowing the officials to take your money and use it to build and stock a library, so you are allowing them to use your money to buy whatever books they see fit. If you don't like this setup, then there should be no public libraries in your town, and you can use that money they they dont take to buy your own bible and put it on your bookshelf. Or, you can elect different leaders who will better manage the stocking of the library.

[grandpa]

Quote by: adam10312 "Banning" the bible implies that no one is allowed to have it. The law does not say that.

Exactly. This law means the state is not an agent of religion. Nothing more.

Grandpa h.

[Jack]

Is it really because many who do these things that are considered wrong, do believe in God or some form of religion, but just want the Lord to change the bible so they don't have to think they are committing sin? That's what I think it is.

Christians have been doing that since before the first church was organized. Have to work on Sunday? Just ignore the prohibition on working on the Sabbath. They ignore all the prohibitions against whatever they're doing they don't want to feel guilty about, but they pay attention to the prohibitions that allow them to feel superior to and judge others.

Non-believers don't buy into the guilt/sin mindset, so we have no reason to want the Bible changed, altered or banned. That applies equally to the Koran.

[Dan_77]

Quote by: Porfyra the Bible has been banned in Colorado- this is directly going against America's freedom of speech and religion.

Sigh... this is why people need to hire lawyers instead of trying to interpret the laws themselves.

This law is a version of a pretty standard statute found in almost every state. All it means is that if you own a place that is considered a "public accommodation" such as a restaurant, hotel, or outdoor amusement place, or if you are a landlord, you can't put up signs or put clauses in your leases, rental agreements, menus, etc that say things like "No gays allowed" or "no blacks served here."

It's a non-issue. The law has existed for probably 50 years with regards to the other thing, they're just adding "sexual orientation" to the long list of basis (age, race, marital status, sex, etc) that you can't discriminate on.

/thread.

[grandpa]

Quote by: tivodan1116 this is why people need to hire lawyers instead of trying to interpret the laws themselves.

I think you think too highly of lawyers, and laws themselves.
People shouldn't be interested in law, or trying to
do what their religion tells them to. They should listen to reason alone.

Grandpa h.

[gela]

Just recently Bill Ritter signed into law SB 200 saying that men can enter ladies restrooms in Colorado now. This opens the door for easy rape, and now women can't even feel safe going to the restroom. but that's not all.

Its plain silly to have a law that says men can't enter womens bathrooms.

Could men seriously be fined for simply walking into a female bathroom? Thats plain stupid. What about cleaners? did they have to specifically hire female cleaners just so they could clean the toilets?

Just because its legal doesn't mean its socially acceptable.

Btw. If your to rape a women - a crime that will put you in jail for years - your not going to hold back because you might get fined for entering a female bathroom.
The law was pointless.

As for the bible.
maybe you should just change it so it doesn't discriminate. That way everyones happy.

Anyway, I think your just looking for something to complain about. No one will ever enforce a rule that bans the bible - they probably didn't even notice it until the religious did. You just want something to rebel against.

[grandpa]

Quote by: gela Its plain silly to have a law that says men can't enter womens bathrooms. Could men seriously be fined for simply walking into a female bathroom?

The double-standards regarding advocates of law are fascinating. Our president doesn't recognize international law, but heaven forbid a man take a leak in the ladies' room. In reality, bathroom stalls needn't absolutely belong to either sex.

Grandpa h.