Should US Have Missile Defense?

[Thanatos]

Quote by: maximdewinter Hi, not only did I not read your post, but I'm also an utter *******.

...I'm going to give you a chance to edit that speech about me to reflect the reality of what I said.

I'm also going to give you a chance to edit your second post to reflect the reality of nuclear war. I was not kidding about Pakistan and India. The planet survived because all that was spread over decades. Part of the global background radiation effect is also semipermanent.

Regional Nuclear War Could Devastate Global Climate

[maximdewinter]

Quote by: Thanatos ...I'm going to give you a chance to edit that speech about me to reflect the reality of what I said. I'm also going to give you a chance to edit your second post to reflect the reality of nuclear war. I was not kidding about Pakistan and India. The planet survived because all that was spread over decades. Part of the global background radiation effect is also semipermanent. Regional Nuclear War Could Devastate Global Climate

I don't know who is yanking your chain and mine but the quote and the "speech" you are referring was not made by me. Where did you get this supposed quote made by me?:
Hi, not only did I not read your post, but I'm also an utter *******.




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[Matt W]

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[maximdewinter]

Quote by: Thanatos ...I'm going to give you a chance to edit that speech about me to reflect the reality of what I said.

How nice of you to extend the courtesy. I will take a rain check on that. But in the meantime the following quote was made by you:

Quote by: Thanatos If I knew Kim Jong Il was going to fire a ICBM at a random American city including my own tomorrow I would still take this stance because this is what has to happen to save the rest of the United States and humanity as a whole.

....your "stance" here being that you don't want a missile shield for your city. Don't nuclear ICBMs kind of obliterate certain zip codes and everyone in them? So what is "the reality of what you said."

[Matt W]

Just an update....

BBC NEWS | Europe | Russia warns over US-Czech shield

Russia has said it will be forced to react with military means if the US and Czech Republic go ahead with plans for a missile shield. The statement came hours after the US signed an initial deal to base part of Washington's controversial missile defence system in the Czech Republic. Moscow says siting the system near its borders could weaken its own defences. It has previously threatened to aim its own missiles at any eventual base in Poland or the Czech Republic. The deal, signed by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Prague on Tuesday, allows a tracking radar base to be set up on Czech territory.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Bear says rarrrr!

What the hell does military means even imply?

[Matt W]

It means that the Czech Republic has just had a large nuclear-tinted gunsight put on it...

[Gods_Mercenary]

As it always has had, and at any rate missiles aimed elsewhere could easily be reprogrammed for an attack on eastern NATO members, who would have to be the first targets in a war.

[The Dunedan]

That's been "on" for over a year now. Putin re-targeted the Czech Republic more than a year ago. This latest escalation is probably a hint that the Russians are actually preparing to strike militarily, possibly by using cruise-missiles to target the radar site. Their missiles are accurate enough they wouldn't -need- to use a nuke, but the Russkies have always been big fans of overkill.

If Russia runs a wargame or some other type of military exercise which involves the firing of either land-based cruise missiles or intermediate-range ballistic missiles, look out. That will probably be their last warning to the West before a piece of prime Bohemian real-estate turns into a smoking crater.

[Thanatos]

Quote by: Matt W Just an update.... BBC NEWS | Europe | Russia warns over US-Czech shield

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Don't worry. I just had a retro gaming day and spent all afternoon playing Red Alert 2. I woke up seriously ugly this morning and if the Ruskies think they're going to just waltz into Europe they have another thing coming. I'll teach them what fear is all about.

Am I taking it too seriously? Are the Russians making an empty bluff? Or will their pride be their downfall? There is a chance to escape this. Bush just has to stop being arrogant because the Russians won't stop being proud.

I was wrong. I predicted that an invincible nation would be corrupted by its own power. Instead the problem is fear and pride. Fear makes people do stupid things.

[ShadowFox]

Ok, heres something interesting and relevant:

U.S.-Czech missile deal raises Russian ire - CNN.com

U.S.-Czech missile deal raises Russian ire MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Russia's Foreign Ministry Tuesday threatened a "military-technological" response if the United States deploys a missile defense system in former Soviet-bloc nations near Russia's borders. The ministry issued the statement after U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice signed a deal Tuesday with her Czech counterpart, Karel Schwarzenberg, to place radar units for the system inside the borders of the Czech Republic. The United States is also seeking a deal with Warsaw to place interceptor missiles in Poland as part of the system. Rice cited possible nuclear threats from Iran as a reason for the program, which will go to the Czech Parliament for approval. But Russia reiterated its concerns that the U.S. program would threaten its security. "There is no doubt that the approachment of elements of the U.S. strategic arsenal to the Russian territory could be used to weaken the potential of our deterrent," the ministry said in a written statement. "If the real deployment of the U.S. strategic missile defense system begins near our borders, then we will have to respond using not diplomatic but military-technological methods," it said. Russia has proposed a joint global missile defense system that would include Russia, the United States, Europe and others, but the United States has been cold to the idea. While en route to Prague, Rice told reporters that the United States wants the missile defense system to be "transparent" at all times to Russians. "We want them to have a way of absolutely seeing for themselves what we know to be true, which is that these systems are in no way aimed at Russia," she said.