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Sandy · May 25, 2008, 11:43 am

I have returned to the Libertarian Party as I am fed up with the crap handed out by the Democrats and Republicans.

Join me in getting our freedoms and liberties back. The convention is on CSPAN as we speak and it is the most stimulating political movement I've seen since 1964.

Technosoul · May 25, 2008, 12:52 pm

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I have returned to the Libertarian Party as I am fed up with the crap handed out by the Democrats and Republicans.

Join me in getting our freedoms and liberties back. The convention is on CSPAN as we speak and it is the most stimulating political movement I've seen since 1964.

Do they have a link also for internet coverage that we can use, if so post it.

Sandy · May 25, 2008, 05:03 pm

CSPAN has covered the entire convention and they are just winding down on a 6th ballot.

Milton Bradley · May 25, 2008, 07:17 pm

Bob Barr got the nomination.

Technosoul · May 25, 2008, 07:23 pm

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Bob Barr got the nomination.

Oh yeah, I heard his name mentioned once on CNN during their coverage but the host quickly changed the topic back to Obama and Clinton. Some pundant said "well, we can always vote for Bob Barr" and the Host did not ask for or give any elaborations concerning that remark.

Was Bob Barr that guy who was asked to resign form another party for some connection to a scandle of some sort... I might be wrong but I recall something about it in the foggy past? Or did he loose some bid as a canadate elsewhere and lost? Cannot pin down what it was for sure.

Bob Barr - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did some research quick like... he was one of the people who attempted but failed to impeach President Bill Clinton for telling a fib about his private sexual behavior.

I would not vote for him no matter what kind of policy the Libs had before he arrived.

The Bacon Guy · May 25, 2008, 07:33 pm

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Oh yeah, I heard his name mentioned once on CNN during their coverage but the host quickly changed the topic back to Obama and Clinton. Some pundant said "well, we can always vote for Bob Barr" and the Host did not ask for or give any elaborations concerning that remark.

That's probably a good thing. Barr is an embarrassment to the Libertarian Party.

Technosoul · May 25, 2008, 07:43 pm

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That's probably a good thing. Barr is an embarrassment to the Libertarian Party.

That seems to be the trend, they just liked him because his name is well known in political circles.

Too bad for the real Libertarians. The trend is that canadates do not really represent the majority of the old timers of the parties they now wish to represent, apparently. More apparent on the conservative side of the street.

another day · May 25, 2008, 11:14 pm

Hah, another party who's name has little relation to it's policies. "Democrats" "Republicans" "Libertarians"...

Dagda · May 26, 2008, 08:20 am

I always thought American politics was a little daft. Personaly, I don't think a country should call itself a democracy with only two parties. Especialy seeing the two parties are pretty simmilar anyway.

Gods_Mercenary · May 26, 2008, 10:59 am

Well, it's true that it's pretty stifling, but there are other parties, as demonstrated by this thread.

Dagda · May 26, 2008, 03:12 pm

Yes, but what are there chances of entry into the Senate ect?

Thanatos · May 26, 2008, 03:35 pm

Whatever happened to Ron Paul? He's more Libertarian than the Libertarians, at least on paper.

Gods_Mercenary · May 26, 2008, 06:11 pm

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Yes, but what are there chances of entry into the Senate ect?

Then it's the people's fault for not voting them there, sounds democratic to me, stupid, but we got in our situation democratically.

Technosoul · May 27, 2008, 03:53 am

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Whatever happened to Ron Paul? He's more Libertarian than the Libertarians, at least on paper.

His name is still on ballets and in the Penn primary he won 7 percent of the Republican vote. Do not know his "national precentage".

Perhaps we should just have one party with lots of people seeking nomination. Then vote to eleminate the worse ones until we end up with the best of the last two evils.

Sandy · May 27, 2008, 10:52 am

Ron Paul's name was all over the LP convention. He ran for President as a Libertarian in the 1980s and did poorly. We all hope he will join us in the fight against the two-party system but he cannot until all the Primaries are over. The news coverage of the Primaries are covering only the Democrats but if we click on the State's sites they will have the results for the othe parties including the GOP.

Bob Barr was not my choice as he changed his positions with regard to the defense of marrage bill (his bill) and his being pro-life. He backed the Patriot's act and that made me doubt his truth in advertising. But he is all we have at this time and if we can get Paul behind us, his percentage of votes might help us develop the perfect candidate for POTUS in 2012.

I have been a Libertarian off and on for years. We need some strong action abainst our war-baiting 2-party system I will work for anyone running on the ticket. The LP platform is back to the way Harry Browne planned and if we pull together we can keep it out of the hands of the neoconservatives and religious right.

Derek Wolff · May 27, 2008, 11:02 am

I watched some of the Libertarian Party convention. The woman I saw nominated should have been in the Green Party. I thought I was Libertarian but after watching that I don't know what the hell I am.

GHook93 · May 27, 2008, 11:21 am

Bob Barr - The Libertarian Candidate

He might not be a true libertarian, but he militant stance on the border and his support of the fair tax are very good qualities.

Although it was hectic holiday weekend. I turned on CSPAN for a minute and saw Gravel speaking at it! Didn't he have a half-a$$ed run at the Democratic ticket?

Sandy · May 27, 2008, 12:03 pm

Gravel was the Ron Paul of the Democratic Party. We now have both unofficially (Paul) and both could work to our avantage. We must hold the LP away from the War actions of the GOP anf the socialistic actions of the Democrats. For me it is worth a shot at returning back to Liberty.

That sounds like an old bromide but to me it is sink or swim for America at this time. The GOP and the Democrats seem to think the American people are too stupid to think for ourselves. Nonsense! We must push our individual independence on all Americans and show them that individual choices are the key to freedom. If they can't figure out right from wrong they should not vote.

May 25, 2008, 11:43 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
Sandy Igneous Magma Posts: 249	Libertarian Party I have returned to the Libertarian Party as I am fed up with the crap handed out by the Democrats and Republicans. Join me in getting our freedoms and liberties back. The convention is on CSPAN as we speak and it is the most stimulating political movement I've seen since 1964.

May 25, 2008, 11:14 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
another day slipping sand Posts: 1,901	Hah, another party who's name has little relation to it's policies. "Democrats" "Republicans" "Libertarians"... Look out kid, they keep it all hid.

May 26, 2008, 10:59 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
Gods_Mercenary Altruism Assassin Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,239	Well, it's true that it's pretty stifling, but there are other parties, as demonstrated by this thread. “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.” -Albert Einstein

May 26, 2008, 03:35 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
Thanatos Arbiter of Weird Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,358	Whatever happened to Ron Paul? He's more Libertarian than the Libertarians, at least on paper. Destroying America one Volconvo post at a time. Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause.

May 27, 2008, 11:21 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
GHook93 Aristotle Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,356	I think I hit on Bob Barr! Bob Barr - The Libertarian Candidate He might not be a true libertarian, but he militant stance on the border and his support of the fair tax are very good qualities. Although it was hectic holiday weekend. I turned on CSPAN for a minute and saw Gravel speaking at it! Didn't he have a half-a$$ed run at the Democratic ticket?

May 25, 2008, 05:03 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
Sandy Igneous Magma Posts: 249	CSPAN has covered the entire convention and they are just winding down on a 6th ballot.

May 25, 2008, 07:17 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Milton Bradley BANNED Location: Ohio Province, Rep. of Comerica Posts: 7,320	Bob Barr got the nomination.

May 26, 2008, 08:20 am	#9 (permalink) (top)
Dagda Molten Ash Posts: 128	I always thought American politics was a little daft. Personaly, I don't think a country should call itself a democracy with only two parties. Especialy seeing the two parties are pretty simmilar anyway.

May 26, 2008, 03:12 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
Dagda Molten Ash Posts: 128	Yes, but what are there chances of entry into the Senate ect?

May 27, 2008, 10:52 am	#15 (permalink) (top)
Sandy Igneous Magma Posts: 249	Ron Paul's name was all over the LP convention. He ran for President as a Libertarian in the 1980s and did poorly. We all hope he will join us in the fight against the two-party system but he cannot until all the Primaries are over. The news coverage of the Primaries are covering only the Democrats but if we click on the State's sites they will have the results for the othe parties including the GOP. Bob Barr was not my choice as he changed his positions with regard to the defense of marrage bill (his bill) and his being pro-life. He backed the Patriot's act and that made me doubt his truth in advertising. But he is all we have at this time and if we can get Paul behind us, his percentage of votes might help us develop the perfect candidate for POTUS in 2012. I have been a Libertarian off and on for years. We need some strong action abainst our war-baiting 2-party system I will work for anyone running on the ticket. The LP platform is back to the way Harry Browne planned and if we pull together we can keep it out of the hands of the neoconservatives and religious right.

May 27, 2008, 11:02 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
Derek Wolff On a high Posts: 161	I watched some of the Libertarian Party convention. The woman I saw nominated should have been in the Green Party. I thought I was Libertarian but after watching that I don't know what the hell I am.

May 27, 2008, 12:03 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
Sandy Igneous Magma Posts: 249	Gravel was the Ron Paul of the Democratic Party. We now have both unofficially (Paul) and both could work to our avantage. We must hold the LP away from the War actions of the GOP anf the socialistic actions of the Democrats. For me it is worth a shot at returning back to Liberty. That sounds like an old bromide but to me it is sink or swim for America at this time. The GOP and the Democrats seem to think the American people are too stupid to think for ourselves. Nonsense! We must push our individual independence on all Americans and show them that individual choices are the key to freedom. If they can't figure out right from wrong they should not vote.