Hold my nose for John McCain?

[deedee]

Hold My Nose for John McCain?




McCain is the real uniter with his 2006 ACU Rating of 65%, not Obama.


To the mods: If this is in the wrong forum please let me know.

[Nono]

That you, deedee? You keep finding new ways to get your mug on Volconvo.

"Suffered for his country ... " War-war-war, eh? Yes, the US is a militaristic, warlike country, no kidding.

But I'm a bit tired of hearing this agin and agin an' agin, as if killing large numbers of innocent people in a pointless armed conflict and then running around wearing a chestful of medals was the One and Only Qualification for High Office.
(Unless, of course, it's Vietnam-ducker George "Mission Accomplished" Bush running against Vietnam vet John Kerry, in which case the only solution is to smear Kerry as unpatriotic.)

Gimme a break, deedee. The USA has gargantuan problems that militarism is never going to solve.

Y'all better vote for sumthin different.

[Milton Bradley]

Trying to cash in on the old former POW status again huh? How pathetic.


Well, in my opinion, being a former POW does not give him a license to act like the North Koreans he opposed, though it's difficult to distinguish any real difference in their governing styles any more. The Republicans are equally petty dictators.


Maybe they're holding thier noses because that's not the Republican they think represents them, or anybody else outside the Bush regime.


Now, your point about the Canadian border is valid. That is a good question, and it exposes a certain amount of hypocrisy on the Liberals part.

Quote by: DeeDee When does it become wrong to treat our fellow man humanely?

When they invade by the tens of millions.


Oh, and the Golden Rule reference is bunk. Keep yur religion to yourself in the political arena, or suffer the consequences.


And then, what's this, an appeal to ally with Hanity, and Rush?


Well, that speaks volumes about your game doesn't it?


Let me ask, are you soliciting Osamma Bin Ladin vote as well?

Quote by: DeeDee McCain's the Uniter.

Heh, yeah, so was G.W., and we all see who he seeks to unite. I hope that wasn't really an atempt at a sales pitch.


Wow, you guys on the far Right sound like you need to go unite around Kim Jong Il.


Oh, oh, I see, this was aimed at "fellow Conservatives" Well let me tell you something, the moniker "Conservative" is to construe fiscal conservatism, and you guys are not fiscal conservatives if you support Goerge Bush, or John McCain. Try again.


Finally, an appeal to stop the pettyness, with a video like that.


Well, if that doesn't take the cake.

[deedee]

McCain has the 65% ACU rating which is more centrist than Obama's 92% Liberal Rating.

That's a fact. Do the math.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: deedee McCain has the 65% ACU rating which is more centrist than Obama's 92% Liberal Rating. That's a fact. Do the math.

Still, he/you are trying to unite people around ideas that are philosphically bankrupt.


And that video is no way to unite people.

[Okieslims]

Quote by: deedee Hold My Nose for John McCain? McCain is the real uniter with his 2006 ACU Rating of 65%, not Obama. To the mods: If this is in the wrong forum please let me know.

Uniter is a stupid political lap dance of a word. We will not be united. It will not happen. The simple far right and the simple far left will always line up behind their respective colors. Neither side even listens to the issues.

[Chris]

deedee,

first off, welcome back - hope you stay a while.


secondly, We have had 8 years of wrong - why should we vote for 4 more years of wrong?

[deedee]

Quote by: Chris deedee, first off, welcome back - hope you stay a while. secondly, We have had 8 years of wrong - why should we vote for 4 more years of wrong?

Chris,

It's good to be back. It's been over a year, hasn't it.
I'm a Ronald Reagan type of gal, you know that. Has there been another homeland attack since Bush started the global war on terror? When we keep war off our own homeland we extract several terrorists cells to join their cohorts where they need support in other parts of the world.

Do you really think another homeland attack will not happen?

Why would anyone want to appease terrorists?

RR said it best:

Reagan - A Time For Choosing

[Milton Bradley]

Oooooo, terrorists, run, and hide everybody!


Got anything besides scare tactics, and hypocrisy to offer us?

[deedee]

Milton.....Milton......Milton.....what are you going to ever do when another homeland attack occurs? Let me guess.........




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Surrender?




LONG LIVE THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: deedee Milton.....Milton......Milton.....what are you going to ever do when another homeland attack occurs? Let me guess.........Surrender?

So, I guess from that response, you have nothing but fear mongering, and hypocrisy.


Roger that.


P.S. They're not looking for surrender, they just jab, and move.

Quote by: deedee LONG LIVE THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!

Uh, um, well, I don't know what to say here except... Wake up, wake up DeeDee, you seem to be having a nightmare.

[Nono]

Homeland attack, bullshit. Instead, the US has been busy attacking other people's homelands. The usual hypocrisy.

And George "Chicken Talk" Bush has always been in a win-win position re 911. If there's no "homeland attack" he can say "See? No homeland attack. Am I cool or what?" If there is an attack, he can say "See? What'd I tell ya? Better redouble the military budget!"

Anyway, there was an attack -- on 911. The Bush administration -- despite demonstrated warnings from surrender monkeys such as French intelligence -- was caught with its pathetic pants down.

Shame.

[Nono]

I've just been reading that "there are currently more musicians in U.S. military marching bands than there are Foreign Service officers" (Waving Goodbye to Hegemony).

That's all one needs to know.

[another day]

Oh no... I did not miss THIS one.

[maximdewinter]

Quote by: Nono Anyway, there was an attack -- on 911. Shame.

And 2/26/1993. In the parking garage of the WTC.

1993 World Trade Center bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The bomb exploded in the underground garage at 12:17 pm, generating a pressure estimated over one GPa and opening a 30-meter-wide (98 foot) hole through four sublevels of concrete. The detonation velocity of this bomb was about 15,000 ft/s (4.5 km/s). Contrary to popular belief there was no cyanide gas attached to the bomb, although Yousef had considered adding cyanide to the bomb, and is said to have regretted not doing so in Peter Lance's book 1000 Years For Revenge.

Six people were killed and 1,040 others were injured, most during the evacuation that followed the blast. The towers were not destroyed as Yousef intended. However, without the WTC’s poured concrete foundations, they would have succeeded; the tower would have toppled.[7] Yousef escaped to Pakistan several hours later.

[Nono]

True. But the '93 attack was a wake-up to possibilities. And as far as I've heard it was dealt with seriously. To my knowledge there was no equivalent under Clinton of the 6 August 2001 briefing: Was Bush warned about September 11th? | World news | The Observer

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Nono True. But the '93 attack was a wake-up to possibilities.

Not only that, but it is the valid reason everybody has to critcize Bush for claiming we were suprised.


This was no surprise, this was Americas Reichstag.

[rez]

Quote by: deedee Hold My Nose for John McCain? McCain is the real uniter with his 2006 ACU Rating of 65%, not Obama. To the mods: If this is in the wrong forum please let me know.

First off deedee, I imagine you made a youtube video of yourself talking because you like to hear yourself talk. I mean, "what is this crap"? If you want to actually share your opinion then do so, but your partisan politics are quite annoying.

What exactly does being liberal have to do with having bad policies? Exactly what is a conservative and why should I consider a conservative an individual that has better ideas then a liberal?

Why don't you actually compare and contrast specific ideas from Obama/Hillary and McCain. A good idea is a good idea, and I think you have trouble with understanding that. If it comes out of a liberal mouth its a bad idea, but if it comes out of a conservative mouth it is a good idea despite what the actually idea states.

I am not going to go any further with your discussion because its based on faulty premises from the start. Please try again.

[maximdewinter]

Quote by: Nono True. But the '93 attack was a wake-up to possibilities. And as far as I've heard it was dealt with seriously. To my knowledge there was no equivalent under Clinton of the 6 August 2001 briefing: Was Bush warned about September 11th? | World news | The Observer

Yes you are correct. The 1993 attempt to bring down the World Trade Center was a wake up call to possibilities. After the 1993 attack we knew the WTC was a target. Ramzi Yousef had come into the country on a falsified Iraqi passport. Another conspirator--Mahmud Abouhalima-- came in with an expired visa. Then later in the 1990's some of the 911 conspirators came into the country illegally long before 9/11. Clearly there was incompetence then (as there still is) in maintaining US border security. Unfortunately we have people in the US who think it is "way out there" to keep a closer watch on someone with Mohammed in his name.

And of course our old friend Khalid Sheik Mohammad gave Ramzi Yousef tips over the phone and wired him money--too bad we were remiss at that time in wiretapping phone calls from overseas. I know it's 20/20 hindsight but possibly we could have prevented the 1993 and 2001 attack if the NSA had more phone taps going. But who knows?, if we did stop those attacks then other attacks might have happened differently and in 1997 and 2006 instead. You have to give the terrorists points for persistence, they really wanted to bring down the towers.

[tivodan1116]

Quote by: deedee McCain has the 65% ACU rating which is more centrist than Obama's 92% Liberal Rating. That's a fact. Do the math.

Wow... I should vote for a President based on how the American Conservative Union rates them? What if I'm not a conservative? What if I'm intelligent enough to realize that any rating by so biased a source is merely going to be twisted in such a way as to "recommend" their pre-determined choice?

"Think about how stupid the average person is. Then realize, half of them are stupider than that" - George Carlin

Quote by: deedee I'm a Ronald Reagan type of gal, you know that.

You mean a big-government, intrusive extra-Constitutional federal government Republican?

Has there been another homeland attack since Bush started the global war on terror?

LOL @ specious reasoning.

Has there been an invasion from Mars? Does the fact that there hasn't been a Martian invasion mean that President Bush's administration is doing a good job keeping Martians at bay, or is the lack of a Martian army on our soil due to some other reason, like, say, Mars not supporting life?

When people like you can learn to distinguish between "correlation" and "causation", the world will be a better place.

When we keep war off our own homeland we extract several terrorists cells to join their cohorts where they need support in other parts of the world.

Do you have any evidence to support that statement, or is it just more conservative talking point nonsense? One thing there IS evidence of: Bush's own CIA cohorts say that the war in Iraq has strengthened the recruiting of Al-Queda (and in fact created a whole new wing of their organization that didn't exist when Saddam Hussein had the entire nation under his brutal yet highly controlling government)

Do you really think another homeland attack will not happen?

I'm not worried about it. Then again, unlike fear-mongering Bush supporters, I'm a logical, thinking human being.

Case in point: It is statistically MUCH more likely that I will die of a lightning strike than by a foreign terrorist attack on American soil.

Why would anyone want to appease terrorists?

Why would anyone want to _______________ terrorists? Place anything in the blank. The point of terrorism is to draw attention to a cause. President Mentally Challenged and his minions have done more to draw attention to the cause of Islamic radicalism than a 9/11 every month could possibly hope to do.

Their chief complaint: We meddle in M.E. affairs.
Our answer to that complaint: We meddle in M.E. affairs by overthrowing the government of a sovereign nation who had not attacked us.

Yeah, that's brilliant.

How can you fight a war against a tactic? There has always been terrorism and there always will be.