Hugo Chavez: "Merkel is a Nazi, Fascist and Supporter of Hitler!

[GHook93]

Not only is this completely untrue and slanderous its shows a huge amount of immaturity by the leader of a country.

Chavez needs to grow up a little. This disrespect, along with his other disrespecting comments, do great harm to Venezuela.

Venezuela's Chavez slams Germany's Merkel comments | International | Reuters

CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Sunday almost told German Chancellor Angela Merkel to go to hell, but stopped short of insulting the woman leader on Mother's Day. Instead he called her a political descendant of Adolf Hitler and German fascism. "Ms. Chancellor, you can go to ...," he said, pausing for effect and eliciting giggles from the audience, a group of military officers, cabinet ministers and government officials. "Because she's a woman I won't say anything else." The leftist leader, who famously called U.S. President George W. Bush "the devil" at a United Nations assembly, slammed Merkel for calling on Latin American leaders to distance themselves from Chavez. "She is from the German right, the same that supported Hitler, that supported fascism, that's the Chancellor of Germany today," he said. Chavez said he could confront her about the statements if he attends an upcoming summit of heads of state from Europe and Latin America in Peru. "Maybe I'll say something to her and she'll get mad and say 'why don't you shut up?'" he said, referencing Spanish King Juan Carlos' 2007 admonition of the loquacious Chavez that touched off a bilateral dispute with Spain. Chavez on Sunday called Colombian President Alvaro Uribe a "liar" who "shouldn't even run a corner store." In the past, he has called U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld "one of the dogs of the devil" and then-President of Mexico Vicente Fox the "lap-dog of the empire."

[Nono]

Quote by: GHook Chavez needs to grow up a little. This disrespect, along with his other disrespecting comments, do great harm to Venezuela.

I agree. That guy sure knows how to make a fool of himself.

Chavez owes Merkel no respect. But he should stick to the verifiable truth. It's true that most of the German right supported Hitler, at least as long as the going was good. The Christian Democrats -- especially their Bavarian brothers -- are dominated by likely goose-steppers in my view. This doesn't mean Merkel herself is a Nazi, obviously.

But she's a dingbat for advising Latin Americans to distance themselves from Chavez. He's an authentic voice, even if he represents one loudmouth extreme of the prevailing tendency in South America these days -- they're damned fed up with US imperialism. "US imperialism" isn't a slogan -- it's a historical, and present, fact.

I'm glad Chavez is benefiting from high oil prices to do a lot of good things in his country, but he should grow up, as G says, stop being quite such a firebrand, and leave diplomacy to the diplomats.

Quite frankly, he reminds me of Berlusconi.

In the past, he has called U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld "one of the dogs of the devil" and then-President of Mexico Vicente Fox the "lap-dog of the empire."

This was merely the truth.

[Milton Bradley]

What I completely fail to understand is why he is seen as the childish one when people expect him to negotiate with tyrants.


How can one have a civil exchange with people who do not respect you, or your sovereign rights? ( We see the same phenomenon here at Volconvo all the time. )


Is it really unexpected that he should become irritated when expected to perform the impossible?

[Dagda]

Chavez needs to grow up a little. This disrespect, along with his other disrespecting comments, do great harm to Venezuela.

Chavez is weird but is always good for a laugh. I'd rather live under him, or his freinds the Castro's for that matter, than George Bush or Gorden Brown or Tony Blair or Jack McConnel....

[Nono]

Quote by: Milton What I completely fail to understand is why he is seen as the childish one when people expect him to negotiate with tyrants.

He can run his mouth more wisely is what he can do. Nothing excuses his repeated exaggerations. They aren't worthy of a head of state. He embarrasses people who ought to be able to work with him to free Latin America from US bullying.

It's counter-productive. Somebody should kick the little bugger in the shins.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Nono He can run his mouth more wisely is what he can do. Nothing excuses his repeated exaggerations. They aren't worthy of a head of state. He embarrasses people who ought to be able to work with him to free Latin America from US bullying. It's counter-productive. Somebody should kick the little bugger in the shins.

I agree with that.


I just don't see why he is the one targeted as being childish when it's clearly the other side that is in denial, which only works to increase hostilities.


I mean, does anybody really wonder why he is hostile towards the people he lashes out aginst?

[Nono]

All the more reason for him to watch his tongue.
Of course, the Western media are just waiting for him to come out with some new foolishness so they can lavish attention on it.

What's wrong with him that he can't see this?

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Nono All the more reason for him to watch his tongue. Of course, the Western media are just waiting for him to come out with some new foolishness so they can lavish attention on it. What's wrong with him that he can't see this?

Perhaps I'm more able to empathize with his position because of all the marginalization the libertarian leaning people suffer here.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Quote by: Nono All the more reason for him to watch his tongue. Of course, the Western media are just waiting for him to come out with some new foolishness so they can lavish attention on it. What's wrong with him that he can't see this?

Nobody'd pay any attention to him otherwise, and latin americans know what happens when they try to do something truly against U.S. interests from the 70's and 80's, though an america preoccupied in Iraq wouldn't likely be able to sacrafice some of its best forces like they could back then.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary Nobody'd pay any attention to him otherwise, and latin americans know what happens when they try to do something truly against U.S. interests from the 70's and 80's, though an america preoccupied in Iraq wouldn't likely be able to sacrafice some of its best forces like they could back then.

And remember, the US borrowed much of the money it spent to "defeat the USSR" in Latin America. That tradition is still continuing regarding Iraq and Afghanistan. If you think about it, it almost forms a debt-laden military-economic "axis of evil."

Grandpa h.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: grandpa And remember, the US borrowed much of the money it spent to "defeat the USSR" in Latin America. That tradition is still continuing regarding Iraq and Afghanistan. If you think about it, it almost forms a debt-laden military-economic "axis of evil." Grandpa h.

Hehehe...


"Almost"?

[Rainbow]

CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Sunday almost told German Chancellor Angela Merkel to go to hell, but stopped short of insulting the woman leader on Mother's Day. Instead he called her a political descendant of Adolf Hitler and German fascism. "Ms. Chancellor, you can go to ...," he said, pausing for effect and eliciting giggles from the audience, a group of military officers, cabinet ministers and government officials. "Because she's a woman I won't say anything else."

Hugo is becoming my new political puppet.
He would never fail me, I hope :-)

[grandpa]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Hehehe.. "Almost"?

Okay, you got me on that one.

Grandpa h.

[Chris the Chees]

Nice to see G spinning this for all its worth.

Nothing Chavez said is untrue. The thread title is utterly misleading, as Chavez says nothing of the sort. I suggest you re-read Chavez's statements again G, as you highlighted all Chavez says is that Merkel is a right-wing German and that it was the German right which supported Hitler and fascism. These are incontestable facts. Chavez did not say "Merkel is a Nazi, Fascist and Supporter of Hitler!", you just made that up.

[Nono]

Yes, Hook has a way of wildly overstating his case.

Quote by: Gawd Nobody'd pay any attention to him otherwise, and latin americans know what happens when they try to do something truly against U.S. interests from the 70's and 80's, though an america preoccupied in Iraq wouldn't likely be able to sacrafice some of its best forces like they could back then.

I disagree on two counts.

1) Chavez may, unfortunately, be a clown personally. But he's extremely influential in Latin America and represents bigtime changes in LA's relationship with the US.
So people most definitely do pay attention to him, despite his rhetorical hype.

2) The US is hemorrhaging power and influence like crazy these days. Of course, Iraq physically prevents a military invasion, but the US would get the same black eye out of that that it's got in Iraq.

Fact is, the United States has voluntarily flushed the family silver down the toilet. Its future looks bleak.

[Gods_Mercenary]

The main U.S. form of intervention in Latin America was never invasion anyway, but usually covert spec. ops direct and indirect action, but, like I said, these soldiers are preoccupied. I never said there aren't people who pay attention to him, Latin americans have to, but would most in North America or Europe have even heard his name if he didn't go around calling people satan, and giving Ghook excuses to make it sound like he called a German politician a fascist?

[Nono]

The US's capacity to intervene directly always depended accomplices -- largely military -- who were willing and able to do its bidding. Such accomplices are getting kinda thin on the ground these days.

Meanwhile, South America (especially resource-rich countries like Venezuela and emerging industrial giants like Brazil) are tying themselves into their own networks with America's competitors (mainly Europe and China).

The situation has slipped out of America's grasp.

[Rainbow]

Quote by: Nono The US's capacity to intervene directly always depended accomplices -- largely military -- who were willing and able to do its bidding. Such accomplices are getting kinda thin on the ground these days. Meanwhile, South America (especially resource-rich countries like Venezuela and emerging industrial giants like Brazil) are tying themselves into their own networks with America's competitors (mainly Europe and China). The situation has slipped out of America's grasp.

Due to administrative-social changes in South America, U.S. governing body needs to adjust Foreign Policy strategy for that region.