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Old May 11, 2008, 05:31 pm   #81 (permalink) (top)
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What's condemning genocide against Arabs has to do with Holocaust denial?
Because it has to do everything with credibility .Its like when convicted criminal speak about someone else crime usually he is lying. That exactly what we have now.
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Old May 11, 2008, 05:34 pm   #82 (permalink) (top)
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Because it has to do everything with credibility .Its like when convicted criminal speak about someone else crime usually he is lying. That exactly what we have now.

Yet further investigation into the holocaust has been deemed off limits.


Seems like a conflict of interets.
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Old May 11, 2008, 05:38 pm   #83 (permalink) (top)
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So you say you should allow anyone to your private property?

I contest the very statement that Isreal is "your private property", so I can't really comment on the alleged parallel, there isn't one.


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And I must ask why?Why no one care about an Ireland and care only about Israel?

Who said I didn't care? Quit trying to put words in my mouth.


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No its not its exactly the same you receive citizenship just because of something that you was born and in Jewish case you very heavily prosecuted for it. You don't have to believe in god to be allowed into Israel.

Then what is the exact requirement that one needs to meet to gain citizenship through the "returning Jew" channel?
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Old May 11, 2008, 05:50 pm   #84 (permalink) (top)
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Ah, the voice of free America. Bigotry at its' best.
Golly Matt, how positively tolerant of you and that compassion for a differing point of view... ROFL... TYPICAL!

Friends, what we find here is the classic tolerance of the ideological left. Of course the sweet irony here is that despite matt advancing a vague point, we can readily discern that Matt desperately needs to set aside Muslim history of the last 30 years and declare it something besides that which it has proven itself to be...

Now as a general rule, where someone straps a couple of pounds of HE around them and walks onto a bus filled with innocent people, I color that in as incomprehensible hatred. Likewise where someone murders an innocent child, cuts open the corpse and packs the dead body of that innocent child with High Explosive, then takes that body back into the neighborhood so that when the parents find it, THEY are murdered... I color that in as unbridled hatred. Now these are all acts TYPICAL of Islam in the 21st century.

Matt wants to ignore that and in doing so, serves to promote an enemy which were Matt to get his way and Islam was to prevail, Matt being a secular progressive, would be on the initial lists of people that have to be destroyed...

Now THAT friends is why I say that leftists are NEVER to be given power of ANY kind at ANY level, for ANY reason... They're incapable of reason and it's as simple as that.


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Old May 11, 2008, 05:52 pm   #85 (permalink) (top)
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What? Are you feeling alright? Seriously, what nuclear weapons?
ROFLMNAO... Oh God that's precious... Its as if she wants to assert that Iran is not pursuing Nukes... Sweet mother, now that's funny...


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Old May 11, 2008, 05:59 pm   #86 (permalink) (top)
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I contest the very statement that Isreal is "your private property", so I can't really comment on the alleged parallel, there isn't one.
Where did I claimed it? I only gave it as an example. By not allowing strangers in you property you not discriminating anyone.


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Who said I didn't care? Quit trying to put words in my mouth.
I never see anyone on internet condemning any country on this issue except Israel.


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The Law of Return
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Old May 11, 2008, 08:09 pm   #87 (permalink) (top)
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Where did I claimed it? I only gave it as an example. By not allowing strangers in you property you not discriminating anyone.

And my point was that your whole contention is invalid to me because I reject your claim on the land on which you base your comparison.


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I never see anyone on internet condemning any country on this issue except Israel.

You must not look very hard.


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Thanks, I'll investigate as time allows.
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Old May 12, 2008, 03:20 am   #88 (permalink) (top)
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Golly Matt, how positively tolerant of you and that compassion for a differing point of view... ROFL... TYPICAL!

Friends, what we find here is the classic tolerance of the ideological left. Of course the sweet irony here is that despite matt advancing a vague point, we can readily discern that Matt desperately needs to set aside Muslim history of the last 30 years and declare it something besides that which it has proven itself to be...

Now as a general rule, where someone straps a couple of pounds of HE around them and walks onto a bus filled with innocent people, I color that in as incomprehensible hatred. Likewise where someone murders an innocent child, cuts open the corpse and packs the dead body of that innocent child with High Explosive, then takes that body back into the neighborhood so that when the parents find it, THEY are murdered... I color that in as unbridled hatred. Now these are all acts TYPICAL of Islam in the 21st century.

Matt wants to ignore that and in doing so, serves to promote an enemy which were Matt to get his way and Islam was to prevail, Matt being a secular progressive, would be on the initial lists of people that have to be destroyed...

Now THAT friends is why I say that leftists are NEVER to be given power of ANY kind at ANY level, for ANY reason... They're incapable of reason and it's as simple as that.
Ah, I see you're incapable of posting without ranting about the "left"? I would suggest you stay on-topic.

Let's see...your 'typical Islam' comment. Does this happen in Malaysia? Indonesia? Dubai? The UAE? Britain? The US? Turkey? Germany? Saudi Arabia? Egypt? Morocco? Libya? Not recently, no. The actions of a few, in war zones, are hardly 'typical Islam', wouldn't you say?

Now, shall we move back onto the topic, or is that too incomprehensible for you?


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Old May 12, 2008, 11:34 am   #89 (permalink) (top)
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Now as a general rule, where someone straps a couple of pounds of HE around them and walks onto a bus filled with innocent people, I color that in as incomprehensible hatred. Likewise where someone murders an innocent child, cuts open the corpse and packs the dead body of that innocent child with High Explosive, then takes that body back into the neighborhood so that when the parents find it, THEY are murdered... I color that in as unbridled hatred. Now these are all acts TYPICAL of Islam in the 21st century.
That is completly idiotic. US troops brought down the democraticly elected government of Cambodia during Vietnam. Thanks to them the left wing democrats were replaced by Paul Pot and this broght untold misery to the Cambodians. Should I blame the entire American population for that? No? Then don't blame all Islam for a few of there numbers misdeeds and I wouln't blame all Americans for there governments misdeeds(which, insadently, are far worse and far reaching)
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Old May 12, 2008, 11:36 am   #90 (permalink) (top)
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Yet further investigation into the holocaust has been deemed off limits.

Seems like a conflict of interets.
Damn right, since there is no need! It has been proven well beyond a reasonable doubt!
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Old May 12, 2008, 11:39 am   #91 (permalink) (top)
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That is completly idiotic. US troops brought down the democraticly elected government of Cambodia during Vietnam. Thanks to them the left wing democrats were replaced by Paul Pot and this broght untold misery to the Cambodians. Should I blame the entire American population for that? No? Then don't blame all Islam for a few of there numbers misdeeds and I wouln't blame all Americans for there governments misdeeds(which, insadently, are far worse and far reaching)
Go a lot over topic, but America never installed Pol Pot. Cambodia was way unstable before that and Pol Pot took over with a Iron Fist. He rivals Hitler in miserable tyrants!
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Old May 12, 2008, 03:30 pm   #92 (permalink) (top)
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Go a lot over topic, but America never installed Pol Pot. Cambodia was way unstable before that and Pol Pot took over with a Iron Fist. He rivals Hitler in miserable tyrants!
Not directly, but it was the USA's bully boy tactics which pushed the leader to combat the Veit Cong he could not hope to win against(and he told America as much) which upset his leadership and lead to the raise of the Kymer Rouge. Anyway, there are plenty of dictatorships the US have activly installed that have made the facists look like boy scouts.
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Old May 12, 2008, 03:33 pm   #93 (permalink) (top)
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Damn right, since there is no need! It has been proven well beyond a reasonable doubt!

Ah, but do we know all the facts?


In this one instance, many seem content to pretend we do instead of actually working to learn if we do.


Somethings fishy about that to me. ( And appearently many others as well. )
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Old May 12, 2008, 03:42 pm   #94 (permalink) (top)
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Because it has to do everything with credibility .Its like when convicted criminal speak about someone else crime usually he is lying. That exactly what we have now.
Ronnie Kasrils is not a convicted criminal. lol Learn to read, foolish kid.


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Old May 12, 2008, 05:37 pm   #95 (permalink) (top)
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Ah, but do we know all the facts?

In this one instance, many seem content to pretend we do instead of actually working to learn if we do.

Somethings fishy about that to me. ( And appearently many others as well. )
Yes we know all the facts. Questioning it is not going to help the quest against Israel and the Jewish, which is the real reason a person would want to question it.
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Old May 12, 2008, 11:12 pm   #96 (permalink) (top)
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Yes we know all the facts. Questioning it is not going to help the quest against Israel and the Jewish, which is the real reason a person would want to question it.

Screw them, I want the truth.
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Old May 13, 2008, 10:11 am   #97 (permalink) (top)
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Screw them, I want the truth.
"You can't handle the truth!"

Had to put it in there.

The Holocaust is the most widely documented event in history. The truth has been more well-documented than anything in history. Go to your local library they will have all the TRUTH you need!

End of discussion, last comment I make to derail the thread.
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Old May 13, 2008, 10:17 am   #98 (permalink) (top)
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Funny thing about this thread is the rightwing American Zionist are made up of few Jews! The Right is made of few Jews. The Jews are over-welming left.

My family makes a huge deal of mother's day. We all go to my cousins house. about 35-40 adults and then 20 children. It made me sick to my stomach that nearly 100% of them were voting for Obama. The only cousin that was not voting for Obama was my brother-in-law would was not Jewish. This is reflective of the Jewish vote since really the beginning of the century, they always vote liberal. I would say the Republican are more Zionist than the Democrats, yet the Jews vote for the less Zionist group. Never made real sense to me.
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Old May 13, 2008, 10:24 am   #99 (permalink) (top)
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Funny thing about this thread is the rightwing American Zionist
are made up of few Jews!
The Right is made of few Jews.
I'm not saying everyone "on the right" is Jewish, or that every Zionist is Jewish (or, of course, that every Jew is a Zionist, whether we mean the old Zionism or the new). But it's undeniable that Israel has its hook in American politics, including Obama.

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Old May 13, 2008, 11:31 am   #100 (permalink) (top)
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I'm not saying everyone "on the right" is Jewish, or that every Zionist is Jewish (or, of course, that every Jew is a Zionist, whether we mean the old Zionism or the new). But it's undeniable that Israel has its hook in American politics, including Obama.

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Saudi Arabia also has in hooks American Politics. Not to mention UK and Mexico.
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