The death of democracy

[grandpa]

Quote by: La Mangra Jewish came to their native lands, they lived for 6000 years on these lands and thousands of years before the Arabs occupation

As long as Israeli occupation and group punishment of Palestinians persists, so will the fighting.

Grandpa h.

[La Mangra]

Quote by: grandpa As long as Israeli occupation and group punishment of Palestinians persists, so will the fighting. Grandpa h.

You can't occupy your own land

It is not Israeli occupation, it is an Arabian occupation of Jewish lands

[grandpa]

Quote by: La Mangra You can't occupy your own land It is not Israeli occupation, it is an Arabian occupation of Jewish lands

From what I understand, they weren't "Jewish lands" until various states decided upon it. And this was while they simultaneously made deals with Arabs. Either way, the Israeli government is increasingly denying the peoplehood of Palestinian Arabs -- the very same thing it accuses anti-Zionists of doing to Jews. It's as if they took passages from Mein Kampf, only they switched the cast of characters around.

Grandpa h.

[La Mangra]

Quote by: grandpa From what I understand, they weren't "Jewish lands" until various states decided upon it. And this was while they simultaneously made deals with Arabs. Either way, the Israeli government is increasingly denying the peoplehood of Palestinian Arabs -- the very same thing it accuses anti-Zionists of doing to Jews. It's as if they took passages from Mein Kampf, only they switched the cast of characters around. Grandpa h.

The Jewish lived on these lands for 6000 of years and had states

2000 years ago the Israel was conquered by Rome and Jewish were oust of Israel, yet small number of Jewish remained at the land all the time

After that Israel was captured many times by many forces including Arabs

The last force that captured the Israel was Britain, it gave large portion of Israeli lands to Arabs - it is the so called Jordain

The successors of the Arabs that occupied Israel, Arabs that came later and more recent refugees from the Arabian countries are today occupational force of Israel

[grandpa]

Quote by: La Mangra The Jewish lived on these lands for 6000 of years and had states 2000 years ago the Israel was conquered by Rome and Jewish were oust of Israel, yet small number of Jewish remained at the land all the time

And they may remain there for the next thousand years. That's not the point. The point is what the modern Jewish state of Israel is doing. I fail to see how it is not racist. It's not unique to Israel, of course. States do essentially racist things all the time.

Grandpa h.

[La Mangra]

Quote by: grandpa And they may remain there for the next thousand years. That's not the point. The point is what the modern Jewish state of Israel is doing. I fail to see how it is not racist. It's not unique to Israel, of course. States do essentially racist things all the time. Grandpa h.

The modern state of Israel fights with the Arabian occupational forces that conduct terror acts in order to get the Jewish lands forever and to get more Israeli lands

[grandpa]

Quote by: La Mangra The modern state of Israel fights with the Arabian occupational forces that conduct terror acts in order to get the Jewish lands forever and to get more Israeli lands

You seriously think Palestinians are "occupational forces?" What leap of faith are you abiding by?

Grandpa h.

[La Mangra]

Quote by: grandpa You seriously think Palestinians are "occupational forces?" What leap of faith are you abiding by? Grandpa h.

The right question is what leap of faith you are abiding by

How do you come to conclusion that the land belongs to them ?

If we translate the time scales into thousand years, then Jewish lived in Israel for 1000 years, while Arabs came in the last 250 years

If you say they have rights to these lands, isn't it time for their Palestines in the USA and Europe since they've being there much longer

[Matt W]

Israel is not the topic at hand. Kindly focus.

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