Should the U.S. "obliterate" Iran if it launches a nuclear attack on Israel?

[another day]

Quote by: GHook93 LOL, I knew you would come back with that. '48 the Arabs invaded, '52 closing the suez canal was an act of war, in '67 the Arabs operating terrorist attacks from Gaza and WB for years and then massed a large invading armies at the border. Those are acts of war. Of course you would prefer the Jews lining up in one long line to save bullets, but the Jews were going to do that again. The Arabs started the '67 war. What about '73 how are you going to twist that one. I know during passover the Jews ran out of blood for their matzo, so they had to start a war with Syria and Egypt to restock blood or they would have to cancel Passover? With Lebanon, those ignorant Jews they would stand for constant terrorist attacks coming from its North neighbor. Damn Jews.

Oh shut up, I don't hate jews, stop with the baseless insinuations. Your accusatory language does not make you sound very level headed. Of course both sides have been fighting for years, and BOTH are to blame (a point I know you'll contend because you're a paki-hater )... My original point was that while arab countries may be fine with a ground war, they are not going to decimate the entire region with a nuclear bomb because it is their holy land. That is all.

It is to note that the Jews never moved to genocide any of their defeated Arab opponents. However, if the Jews lost any one of those wars (or any future war) then we will be talking about the 2nd Holocaust! Maybe that is not a bad thing for you.

Again with the ridiculous accusations.. Moving along.

Yea that is not anti-semitic! Why not say what that is a mask for, he wants to see another Holocaust.

How do you get that from what he said? He simply wants the state of israel disbanded as it was created by the british government after world war 2. If you want to go off your rocker and say he's the next hitler with no evidence of any kind then you're only hurting your cause.

That is either extremely naive or way to mask a desire to see the next mass extermination of the Jews? Which one is it?

It is a mistranslation.

I think ahmenidjad is a dangerous religious zealot, not a misunderstood hippie.. You need to STOP once and for all with all the assumptions and embellishments you create in your own mind around the arguments of other people.

My only point was that ahmenijad never said he wanted the nation of israel wiped off the map, as in holocaust style. I'm just correcting the facts.

I don't support Israel or Palestine. I only support a peace treaty.

[LadiesMan217]

Quote by: sdbest Should the U.S. "obliterate" Iran if it launches a nuclear attack on Israel? Hillary Clinton has said she will "obliterate" Iran if it should launch a nuclear attack on Israel. The Boston Globe has characterized this position as Hillary Strangelove. A list of international responses is at Daily Kos. Are Clinton's remarks the words of someone who has crossed the Commander in Chief threshold and can be trusted with the power of the U.S Presidency or are they those of someone too dangerous, intemperate, and irrational for the job on Day 1 or at 3:00am? To put this question into some context, this is Iran.

If she means "obliterate" in the sense that I understand the meaning of the word then I would say no, but if Iran should attack Israel with a nuclear strike then it would be in the best interests of the world to deal with a rogue nation like Iran, and I am talking more than a slap on the wrist. But I don't see this as something the an issue important the U.S. but every other sovereign nation on the planet.

[Charlatan]

I think that if Iran nukes Isreal then America should get involved because there could be more nuking done by Iran. We know they have a long range missile that they can use to bomb Europe, so we should suppose that they would try to make war there too, and while you need a reason to bomb places, they might find reason in their own way. Also America is at risk, since they lead in the sanctions on Iran, A world without Europe and America would see Iran in a more favourable position. Have you ever thought that China and Russia will also have a say in the affair, as they are G8 countries also, the world leaders, and might take it upon themselves to put Iran six feet under.

[Rainbow]

Quote by: Charlatan I think that if Iran nukes Isreal then America should get involved because there could be more nuking done by Iran.

I think that scenario never materializes, ever, since the consequences may go beyond any pre-war plans and/or prophecy.

[Chancellor]

Quote by: GHook93 Fine, non-interventionism didn't work during WW II. There are sometimes were is unconciousable sit idle. Clinton was right not to remain idle during the Kosovo Genocide. We were wrong for remaining idle while Rwandians were getting massacred! Your right the we should less our role and we should spot the nation-building wars, but spotting genocide aka Kosovo is something we shouldn't never do!

Non-intervention didn't work because we intervened.

Clinton was wrong to get us involved in Kosovo and was right to keep us out of Rwanda.

I agree with John Quincy Adams: "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." This should be our foreign policy.

[GHook93]

Quote by: another day Oh shut up, I don't hate jews, stop with the baseless insinuations. Your accusatory language does not make you sound very level headed. Of course both sides have been fighting for years, and BOTH are to blame (a point I know you'll contend because you're a paki-hater )... My original point was that while arab countries may be fine with a ground war, they are not going to decimate the entire region with a nuclear bomb because it is their holy land. That is all.

You stated Israel started all the wars. If is not antisemitic propaganada I don't know what is. In is the Arabs have really only a few holy sites all in Jerusalem. They could nuclear the outer-layers of Israel and leave Jerusalem in tact.

Again with the ridiculous accusations.. Moving along.

No they are right on!

How do you get that from what he said? He simply wants the state of israel disbanded as it was created by the british government after world war 2. If you want to go off your rocker and say he's the next hitler with no evidence of any kind then you're only hurting your cause.

Yep that State of Israel being disband, how can I ever infer that your statements are promoting the anti-semitic agenda? Israel will only be disbanded by a war in which all the Jews are murdered; therefore, if you support the disbanding of Israel (which is arrogant itself), then you support the 2nd Holocaust!

It is a mistranslation.

Says you and some propaganda nuts! LOL I will listen to the experts who are not 9/11 truthers. He said what he said, you and no one on the left is going to change that by trying to rewrite or make up what he said. The conspiracy theorist are all the same, they just make up facts to suit their purpose and push them off as the truth!

I think ahmenidjad is a dangerous religious zealot, not a misunderstood hippie.. You need to STOP once and for all with all the assumptions and embellishments you create in your own mind around the arguments of other people.

LOL, sure you do.

My only point was that ahmenijad never said he wanted the nation of israel wiped off the map, as in holocaust style. I'm just correcting the facts.

LOL still pushing that propaganda!

I don't support Israel or Palestine. I only support a peace treaty.

Sure you do, your views are crystal clear no matter how much you try to mask them.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Chancellor Non-intervention didn't work because we intervened. Clinton was wrong to get us involved in Kosovo and was right to keep us out of Rwanda.

Man you have no conscience!
Extremism on either side (too much war or putting our heads in the sand at every sign of it) is poor policy no matter which way you look at it.

If you are OK with genocide, then I feel bad for you.

[Chancellor]

Quote by: GHook93 Man you have no concious!

If you mean "conscience" then your statement is irrelevant because having a conscience has to do with whether or not I can feel guilt for something I've done wrong.

Extremism on either side (too much war or putting our heads in the sand at every sign of it) is poor policy no matter which way you look at it.

Government minding its own business is not an extremist policy.

If you are OK with genocide, then I feel bad for you.

What people do in their own countries to each other is for their governments to deal with.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Chancellor If you mean "conscience" then your statement is irrelevant because having a conscience has to do with whether or not I can feel guilt for something I've done wrong.

Yep that is what I meant!

Do nothing can be doing something wrong. Stating the US shouldn't have intervened is Kosovo is one of those occassions.

Government minding its own business is not an extremist policy.

I am for the government vastly reducing its role in business and I believe we need to scale back out military ops, but there are many cases where we should use the military Kosovo and Rwanda are 2 examples.

What people do in their own countries to each other is for their governments to deal with.

Like it or not we don't leave in a vacuum. What happens on 1 part of the planet effects the other.

[another day]

Quote by: GHook93 You stated Israel started all the wars. If is not antisemitic propaganada I don't know what is.

No I did not.

"A war is different then nuclear obliteration. Not to mention many of those wars were in arab countries defending themselves from israeli attacks."

Many does not equal all, or even most.

Yep that State of Israel being disband, how can I ever infer that your statements are promoting the anti-semitic agenda? Israel will only be disbanded by a war in which all the Jews are murdered; therefore, if you support the disbanding of Israel (which is arrogant itself), then you support the 2nd Holocaust!

Sorry, when did I say I would like to see the state of Israel disbanded?

Jesus... I said that's what ahmenidjad said.

Says you and some propaganda nuts! LOL I will listen to the experts who are not 9/11 truthers. He said what he said, you and no one on the left is going to change that by trying to rewrite or make up what he said. The conspiracy theorist are all the same, they just make up facts to suit their purpose and push them off as the truth!

Conspiracy theorists? 9/11 truthers? I am neither of those. Stop with the stereotyping. I'm not even very left wing.

He did say what he said. Do some research. It was a mistranslation.

LOL, sure you do.

Yes, I do.

Sure you do, your views are crystal clear no matter how much you try to mask them.

My views are only crystal clear to you because your deluded mind has replaced them with your own stereotypical, cardboard cutout lefty arguments.

You won't even accept that I don't like ahmenijad or that I don't want israel disbanded. You just won't listen to my views because you prefer to invent fake ones to go along with your polarized stereotype to debate with because it's easier for you then trying to argue with someone who is non-biased and looks at both sides of an issue.

By far the most frustrating debater on volconvo! He won't even believe your own views! He just says your lying and that secretly your a lefty anti-semitic nazi sympathizer!

And I'm the conspiracy theorist?

i'm putting you on ignore because there is no point in talking to a person who doesn't even accept your views as your own.