Twisting the Iraninan youth one child at a time!

[GHook93]

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If this is not an indoctrination of anti-semitism and demonization of Jews to very young children then I don't know what is. Using cartoons is the worst foster hate is evil in every sense of the word.

I know the anti-american comeback will be what about GI Joe? Well GI Joes heros were white, black and asians. The villians were whites and most serpian type monster. They were identifiable as Arabs, Germans, Communist or any other group!


This use of children's love for cartoons is sick!

[Maryjane]

anti-american comeback

what's that all about?

[grandpa]

Quote by: Maryjane what's that all about?

It's about diversion, saying that anyone who disagrees with him is "anti-American" (as if that instantly means you're wrong, anyway).

Grandpa h.

[Maryjane]

anti-american Vs "anti-American"

Interesting.

[Winter wind]

Quote by: ghook If this is not an indoctrination of anti-semitism and demonization of Jews to very young children then I don't know what is. Using cartoons is the worst foster hate is evil in every sense of the word. I know the anti-american comeback will be what about GI Joe? Well GI Joes heros were white, black and asians. The villians were whites and most serpian type monster. They were identifiable as Arabs, Germans, Communist or any other group!

So it begs the question, why do they hate us this much and why are they willing to stoop so low?

[shrike]

Quote by: winterwind why do they hate us this much and why are they willing to stoop so low?

relegion

[Winter wind]

relegion

It has to be more then that. I have Jewish and Muslim kids in my class and they aren't trying to bomb each other. So what's the difference?

[GHook93]

Quote by: Maryjane what's that all about?

The simple responds is going to be that GI Joe does that same thing that these racist programs do.

Maybe anti-american was too strong, but I was in the moment of shock after seeing this cartoon.

[GHook93]

Quote by: grandpa It's about diversion, saying that anyone who disagrees with him is "anti-American" (as if that instantly means you're wrong, anyway). Grandpa h.

Or your post can be characterized as derailment. As derailment is taking a minor point of the post and running with that, instead of addressing the main theme of the post. Typical.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Winter wind It has to be more then that. I have Jewish and Muslim kids in my class and they aren't trying to bomb each other. So what's the difference?

Here I think this will explain it best!
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Its a clash between 21st century and Middle age mentality.

[GHook93]

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This is an Iranian University Professor! LOL, he needs some education himself.

Here is what he says:
(1) Jewish Co. - Walt Disney - LOL good old Walt was known as a Nazi anti-semite. Do so research buddy.

(2) The Jews created Tom and Jerry to make the view better of mice, because Jews are seen as dirty mice. LOL, how illogical is that. Did you see all the students taking notes, no wonder Iran will never have an economy not based on oil.

(3) Hanna - Irish-American Catholic- and Barbera - a Lebanese American Christian- created Tom and Jerry. Where is the Jewish conspiracy there.

(4) The guy hints to the Iranian publics view of Holocaust denial

(5) He embraces the ultimate propaganda Bullsh!t of the Procotor of Elders of Zion.

[shrike]

Quote by: winter It has to be more then that. I have Jewish and Muslim kids in my class and they aren't trying to bomb each other. So what's the difference?

Like any ideology it was taken to the extreme and dogmatism is a bad thing for example Socialist Sweden and Socialist USSR. Do you see the difference?

[Winter wind]

Quote by: ghook Here I think this will explain it best! Clip Its a clash between 21st century and Middle age mentality.

So its a matter of education?

Quote by: shrike Like any ideology it was taken to the extreme and dogmatism is a bad thing for example Socialist Sweden and Socialist USSR. Do you see the difference?

I do, but why is the extremism existing in the first place?

[shrike]

Quote by: winter but why is the extremism existing in the first place?

There are two factors ideological and social. There should be some "seed of evil" in ideology. For example you rarely would see fanatic Buddhists (they probably do exist).The other factor is social poor uneducated population think that all their problem because there weren't devout enough and here comes "the seed of evil".

[Winter wind]

Quote by: shrike There are two factors ideological and social. There should be some "seed of evil" in ideology. For example you rarely would see fanatic Buddhists (they probably do exist).The other factor is social poor uneducated population think that all their problem because there weren't devout enough and here comes "the seed of evil".

I think Buddhism is really an exception to this rule, in the sense that passiveness a part of the major point of Buddhism.

However, I think you are right. The next and final question is, how do we solve this problem?

[grandpa]

Quote by: GHook93 Or your post can be characterized as derailment. As derailment is taking a minor point of the post and running with that, instead of addressing the main theme of the post. Typical.

You're the one who used the distractive term. Don't blame me.

Grandpa h.

[jose]

Ghook repeats the propaganda site Memritv,
Selective Memri
Selective Memri | World news | guardian.co.uk

Although Memri claims that it does provide translations from Hebrew media, I can't recall receiving any. Evidence from Memri's website also casts doubt on its non-partisan status. Besides supporting liberal democracy, civil society, and the free market, the institute also emphasises "the continuing relevance of Zionism to the Jewish people and to the state of Israel". That is what its website used to say, but the words about Zionism have now been deleted. The original page, however, can still be found in internet archives. The reason for Memri's air of secrecy becomes clearer when we look at the people behind it. The co-founder and president of Memri, and the registered owner of its website, is an Israeli called Yigal Carmon. Mr - or rather, Colonel - Carmon spent 22 years in Israeli military intelligence and later served as counter-terrorism adviser to two Israeli prime ministers, Yitzhak Shamir and Yitzhak Rabin. Retrieving another now-deleted page from the archives of Memri's website also throws up a list of its staff. Of the six people named, three - including Col Carmon - are described as having worked for Israeli intelligence.

[GHook93]

Quote by: jose Ghook repeats the propaganda site Memritv, Selective Memri Selective Memri | World news | guardian.co.uk

I have not doubt ot Memritv's aim and bias. I haven't seen them all, but I have no doubt they look only certain types of messages. Neverthless the only one who is to blame is the SPEAKER!

Instead of taking the written words of some bloggers who can make up anything, write opinions and state them as facts (which you have done from many Holocaust denial sites in the past), memritv just replays and translates speeches, programs and even cartoons. These come right from the lion's mouth. There is no denying what the message is.

What you are trying to do is present a red herring, instead of acknowledging what is being preached and broadcasted across the islamic world, you choose to rather demonize the Jews then anything else.

right there from your own biased article:

Nobody, so far as I know, disputes the general accuracy of Memri's translations

If you read the article this is a blogger who makes no references to his claims and provides no proof. However, you are to believe his obviously anti-Israel rambles and believe everything he says as the world of god. It's funny you choose to believe that blogger with provides no evidences or references instead of the words coming right from the mouth of the prepetrators.

I mean author even tries to defend or at least apologize for the blood libel claim of a Saudi Arabia "intellect."

Earlier this year, Memri scored two significant propaganda successes against Saudi Arabia. The first was its translation of an article from al-Riyadh newspaper in which a columnist wrote that Jews use the blood of Christian or Muslim children in pastries for the Purim religious festival. The writer, a university teacher, was apparently relying on an anti-semitic myth that dates back to the middle ages. What this demonstrated, more than anything, was the ignorance of many Arabs - even those highly educated - about Judaism and Israel, and their readiness to believe such ridiculous stories. But Memri claimed al-Riyadh was a Saudi "government newspaper" - in fact it's privately owned - implying that the article had some form of official approval. Al-Riyadh's editor said he had not seen the article before publication because he had been abroad. He apologised without hesitation and sacked his columnist, but by then the damage had been done. Memri's next success came a month later when Saudi Arabia's ambassador to London wrote a poem entitled The Martyrs - about a young woman suicide bomber - which was published in al-Hayat newspaper. Memri sent out translated extracts from the poem, which it described as "praising suicide bombers". Whether that was the poem's real message is a matter of interpretation. It could, perhaps more plausibly, be read as condemning the political ineffectiveness of Arab leaders, but Memri's interpretation was reported, almost without question, by the western media. These incidents involving Saudi Arabia should not be viewed in isolation. They are part of building a case against the kingdom and persuading the United States to treat it as an enemy, rather than an ally. It's a campaign that the Israeli government and American neo-conservatives have been pushing since early this year - one aspect of which was the bizarre anti-Saudi briefing at the Pentagon, hosted last month by Richard Perle. To anyone who reads Arabic newspapers regularly, it should be obvious that the items highlighted by Memri are those that suit its agenda and are not representative of the newspapers' content as a whole. The danger is that many of the senators, congressmen and "opinion formers" who don't read Arabic but receive Memri's emails may get the idea that these extreme examples are not only truly representative but also reflect the policies of Arab governments. Memri's Col Carmon seems eager to encourage them in that belief. In Washington last April, in testimony to the House committee on international relations, he portrayed the Arab media as part of a wide-scale system of government-sponsored indoctrination

Man is this author ignorant or what. At the very least he represents the growing rabidly anti-semitic left wing of Europe!

[Trotsky]

It's not only Muslims, it's Jews, Christians, Sikhs, Hindus etc etc. I grew up with phrases like dirty prod bastard, taig etc. Indoctrination of a them and us mentality. Take for example the partition of India, an elite few benefited from driving a wedge between neighbours, same with Northern Ireland, same with Israel and the Palestinians. Same with Chavez in Venezuala. It's all about divide and rule. Do people honestly think the Iranian people would put up with the Ayatollahs if they weren't so indoctrinated into the beliefs that Israel and the US are repsonsible for all their ills, do people hosnetly think that Isreali's would put up with militant settlers and hawkish governments if they hadn't been indoctrinated with the belief that all Arabs want to kill them, do you think that the Palestinians would put up with Fatah and Hamas if they had been indoctrinated with the belief that they have had everything stolen from them and without any cause. Northern Ireland, the Orange order for instance, Home Rule is Rome Rule etc etc. It goes on and on and on. You drill stuff down peoples throats enough they eventually begin to believe it's true.

[shrike]

Quote by: winter The next and final question is, how do we solve this problem?

Very hard question .There is no quick solution. To take care the ideological and social problem the education should be the answer of course it's a slow process. Educated persons could take of themselves and improve their economic situation and of course they wouldn't believe to religious propaganda of the cleric. It can take a generation or two. But meantime the democratic countries should not show their weakness because such ideologies want to spread their virus to the world.