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Old Apr 24, 2008, 12:34 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Here is one of my opinons about this question.

By picking a numskull for President we can have someone to blame for all our personal problems, we might wait until their term in office is past the honeymoon stage, but the fact is we want an escape goat to blame for our woes and so we pick someone who will mess things up so we do not need to be responsable for how screwed up our own life has become, or how we relate to stuff like bumper to bumper traffic.

If we voted in a really super smart person along with really intelligent people to fill the seats in congress (which is what the forefathers expected us to do) then thing would go right and that would force us to see that something might be wrong with us personally.

We would rather wake up and read the newspaper and play god by judging the "worse wrongs" of the world then to wake up and "look at our self and how we can improve our own shortcomings".

So we elect leaders who can provide us with that distraction.
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 01:05 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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That is why I should run for President, I would promise to give you lots of things to gripe about and debate. I would make you all look like saints compared to my dirty deeds with the help of another tricky Dick VP.

I should annonce that I am a canidate and get a grant to do some field research to see if my new independant party has a chance.

I am sure that the news media would want to send me a big donation because I will provide them with lots of bad news that will up their ratings.

I will absolutly start off with some negative ads to show that the other canidates are bad people. I will hire the best gossip writers to do that to insure that I can win and photographers who can get those ugly photos of those other canidates.

You are just gonna love this because those canidates have been getting a free ride for long enough.

I would be the canidate that knows that you are the rightious ones and the true saints of our society, and you need an evil and corupt government to stay high and to get your next "fix". I can provide that for you. I will make you have more to hope for and to dream about, because if those other people win then they might patch things up and then you will loose interest in going to the polls to vote next time we have an election. And what is the point of a democracy if no one is motivated to vote some bum out of office?
If they are not doing dumb things?
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 01:13 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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I don't think any of the candidates are currently too distinguished...

YouTube - WWE Clinton/Obama/McCain Preview

Clinton: Tonight you can call me Hilrod

Obama: Can you smell what Barack is cooking?

McCain: Whatcha gonna do when Johh McCain and all his McCaniacs run wild on you?

thoroughly depressing...

McCain really takes the cake... what a dumbass.

YouTube - John McCain on WWE Raw.


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 01:23 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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I don't think any of the candidates are currently too distinguished...
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 05:15 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 05:29 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
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Has it ever occurred to anybody that one person could not possibly contain all the views of 380 million + ?
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 05:45 pm   #27 (permalink) (top)
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A truely intelligent person wields the language he is given to it's fullest potential. Tell me, what word should he have replaced "Audacity" with? .
What about Daring to Hope? Much better. Much more relatable. Doesn't make Obama sound like a left-wing elitist that knows nothing about real America.


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 05:51 pm   #28 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, but big words don't = intelligence. A truly intelligent person should be able to us simple words to get his point across. It works just a effectively. If he can't relate to his own people, how is he going to relate to other world leaders and understand global conflicts?
"Audacity" is not a "big word".
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 05:58 pm   #29 (permalink) (top)
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What about Daring to Hope? Much better. Much more relatable. Doesn't make Obama sound like a left-wing elitist that knows nothing about real America.
ROFL! Well, for one, audacity and daring are not exact synonyms.

It is a tad frightening to think that people *really* think "audacity" as a word is "elitist" or "too intellectual" or something, though.

No wonder we're trailing in test scores globally!
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 06:06 pm   #30 (permalink) (top)
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au·dac·i·ty–noun, plural -ties. 1. boldness or daring, esp. with confident or arrogant disregard for personal safety, conventional thought, or other restrictions.

Close enough.


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 06:11 pm   #31 (permalink) (top)
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why would anyone want a dumb, uneducated President?
In NZ the press coverage that we get of the presidential candidacy , as well as the comments made so far lead me to suspect that personality is more important than policy.

Words like audacity" , "elitist" or "too intellectual appear far more often than any information about policies.

I have never really understood what a president is good for besides photo opportunities.
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 06:16 pm   #32 (permalink) (top)
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In NZ the press coverage that we get of the presidential candidacy , as well as the comments made so far lead me to suspect that personality is more important than policy.

Words like audacity" , "elitist" or "too intellectual appear far more often than any information about policies.

I have never really understood what a president is good for besides photo opportunities.
True. Everyone who wathced the debate on T.V. thought Kennedy won but everyone who heard it on the radio thought Nixon won.


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 06:26 pm   #33 (permalink) (top)
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au·dac·i·ty–noun, plural -ties. 1. boldness or daring, esp. with confident or arrogant disregard for personal safety, conventional thought, or other restrictions.

Close enough.
Not really. That's like saying there's no viable difference between "cool" and "frozen". On some uber-basic level they mean the same thing "not hot", but in reality they describe vastly different states of being.

Gads, no wonder my kids do so well in their writing assignments. They have more than 6 words in their vocabulary!
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 06:55 pm   #34 (permalink) (top)
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I don't think any of the candidates are currently too distinguished...

YouTube - WWE Clinton/Obama/McCain Preview

Clinton: Tonight you can call me Hilrod

Obama: Can you smell what Barack is cooking?

McCain: Whatcha gonna do when Johh McCain and all his McCaniacs run wild on you?

thoroughly depressing...

McCain really takes the cake... what a dumbass.

YouTube - John McCain on WWE Raw.
That is truly stupid, I can't believe the humiliation these people will submit themselves to for votes. Although John McCain had the cheesiest line, I think he had the best "speech", at least he said something of substance instead of just "Change we can believe in" and "Barack is an elitist". It was kind of nice to actually know someone's policy for a change even if it was on the WWE.


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 09:13 pm   #35 (permalink) (top)
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Has it ever occurred to anybody that one person could not possibly contain all the views of 380 million + ?

Then perhaps we could expect to see a candidate that espouses the legal code that ( allegedly ) binds us all together. ( Ron Paul )


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 10:44 pm   #36 (permalink) (top)
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Yep, R.P. the "rejected person". Goes to show that running as a 3rd party canidate inside the Repulican party will not get you very far.

The only person in this whole election process that has bonded everyone together is Rev Wright.
No one seemed to like his sermon about those chickens.

Proof that speaking the truth is not going to get you elected.

That can leave the canidates with only one of two choices. Lie or pretend to be dumb.

Amen.

And so using the great Rev Wright sermon about the chickens coming home to roost. You get the chicken president you voted for, what goes around comes around. reap what you sow. That is what they call "God's Justice".

When you tune out the god of peace you get that other guy with those red horns. etc.
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 03:25 am   #37 (permalink) (top)
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Yep, R.P. the "rejected person". Goes to show that running as a 3rd party canidate inside the Repulican party will not get you very far.

The only person in this whole election process that has bonded everyone together is Rev Wright.
No one seemed to like his sermon about those chickens.

Proof that speaking the truth is not going to get you elected.

That can leave the canidates with only one of two choices. Lie or pretend to be dumb.

Amen.

Exactly, most people are going to deserve what they get.


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Old Apr 25, 2008, 08:39 am   #38 (permalink) (top)
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Clinton: Tonight you can call me Hilrod

Obama: Can you smell what Barack is cooking?

McCain: Whatcha gonna do when Johh McCain and all his McCaniacs run wild on you?
I saw that on the daily show.

Oh the depths candidates will sink for votes. I don't think I would say any of that with a gun at my head.

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What about Daring to Hope? Much better. Much more relatable. Doesn't make Obama sound like a left-wing elitist that knows nothing about real America.
Because he choose the word that sounded best. Daring sounds too much like Indian Jones. Audacity sounds more outrageous.
Plus, I'm guessing that he though if you couldn't understand the title, you weren't going to understand the rest of the book anyway.

Also, relating to people means understanding them and their needs. He can do that without having to dumb himself up.

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True. Everyone who wathced the debate on T.V. thought Kennedy won but everyone who heard it on the radio thought Nixon won.
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Then perhaps we could expect to see a candidate that espouses the legal code that ( allegedly ) binds us all together. ( Ron Paul )
Your going to find that very few people care about the law itself, only their own welfare.


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Old Apr 25, 2008, 09:20 am   #39 (permalink) (top)
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I saw that on the daily show.
Oh the depths candidates will sink for votes.
That alone is reason to consider not voting.

Anyway, I doubt the WWE appearance will be fruitless. Some yahoos will think it actually adds something to the candidates.

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Old Apr 25, 2008, 01:00 pm   #40 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah like appealing to the "common man"... except even the common man doesn't watch that crap, it's the lowest common denominator... and I bet you those people don't vote, and if they did they'd vote for a "tough guy" like Mccain.

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That is truly stupid, I can't believe the humiliation these people will submit themselves to for votes. Although John McCain had the cheesiest line, I think he had the best "speech", at least he said something of substance instead of just "Change we can believe in" and "Barack is an elitist". It was kind of nice to actually know someone's policy for a change even if it was on the WWE.
Yeah, his policy. Like for instance... "You wanna pull out of Iraq? Well I say, no surrender!"


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