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[Winter wind]

Quote by: century You have forgotten.. they (founders) stacked the deck, way back when, and considering the stakes of the "game" - they don't plan to ever lose.. or to break even. They always want to win. No matter what. And so they do.

They were able to ban alcohol and lower the voting age to 18. Why is this so different?

[Osborn F Enready]

Winter Wind said: They were able to ban alcohol and lower the voting age to 18. Why is this so different?

It should be obvious to anyone who studies the issue.

They banned alchohol using constituional methods.... all methods of prohibition since have not been done this way, since they WITNESSED its failure when the people don't support their illogical, central government, all powerful motives.

[Winter wind]

Quote by: OFE They banned alchohol using constituional methods.... all methods of prohibition since have not been done this way, since they WITNESSED its failure when the people don't support their illogical, central government, all powerful motives.

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I'm missing the argument.
Do you mean that prohibition's lack of success lead to a smaller chance of constitutional amendments?

I think there is enough support for popular direct elections that there could be a constitutional amendment (whether people care enough is another story).

[PubliusInfinitu]

Quote by: kensai_soke77 I am a Republican leaning Independent, however this argument made by Dr. Leonard Peikoff of the Ayn Rand Institute changed my mind. It was a tough sell for me, especially with John McCain as a candidate (I am a native Arizonan). I have heard pro-Republican-vote arguments on the basis that it is less difficult to intellectually challenge the religious right as opposed to the socialist left. It appears to me that the Republican/conservative party is becoming ever more saturated by pro-religious groups. My concern is that if this is true, then a well entrenched religious-Republican party will be harder to remove than a socialist-Democrat one. (I prefer a secular, pro-business, small government political party.) Any thoughts on this? ...

Yeah... I have a thought and that is that secularism is a farce...

In the absence of God, Human Rights is a concept without meaning.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no greater threat to his nation than the sancitified 'independent, moderate, centrist, secular progressive and sport, just reading what you've posted here that is precisely where I'd slot you.

But give me a chance to prove it...

Is there any chance that you're able to cite, say... one example, where religion is a threat to you?

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: PubliusInfinitu Yeah... I have a thought and that is that secularism is a farce... In the absence of God, Human Rights is a concept without meaning. As far as I'm concerned, there is no greater threat to his nation than the sancitified 'independent, moderate, centrist, secular progressive and sport, just reading what you've posted here that is precisely where I'd slot you. But give me a chance to prove it... Is there any chance that you're able to cite, say... one example, where religion is a threat to you?

Yes. Foreign policy.


Many Christians seem content that our government is waging an unjust Culture War against Islam.


That is a very big, very real problem, and the people instructed to forgive, and forget act 180% out of sinc with their professed views.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Foreign policy.

True. We may condemn or nitpick Bush's foreign policy, but religions have been warring for a long time.

Grandpa h.

[grandpa]

Quote by: PubliusInfinitu In the absence of God, Human Rights is a concept without meaning.

Do you have a good reason to say this? Many religious people attribute peace to God, yet history tells a different story (including recent history and current events).

Grandpa h.

[Century 25]

In the absence of God, Human Rights is a concept without meaning.

It is 'belief' in a farce.. (some mythical deity), we are absolutely living a lie. That's the reason the world is so screwed up.

If humans could bust the death-grip that the hucksters (religions) have placed.. like an albatross (or 2-ton anvil) around the human race's neck, why.. then humans could intelligently and logically solve the problems at hand.. as in: starvation, over population, illiteracy.. WARS..

However.. since the hucksters (con-artists) get the kids from infancy.. and inculcate them into the "system" --- Well.. realistically.. we have no chance. Wars will continue.. and all the rest

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: grandpa Do you have a good reason to say this? Many religious people attribute peace to God, yet history tells a different story (including recent history and current events). Grandpa h.

Century 25 is basically right.


They ( the religious ) claim that deism is some sort of mysterious religion that supports they're view of Western law being tied to the Ten Commandments, and therefore Christianinty.


When deism is really more acurately described as the broken phychological remnants of former Christains who have renounced Christanity, but not made the leap to all out atheism.