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![]() BANNED Location: between the good and the bad Posts: 1,330 | [quote]Why is it wrong, don't you believe in free speech? Quote:
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| dog lover Location: over the rainbow Posts: 1,122 | Quote:
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![]() Molten Ash Posts: 68 | [quote=Milton Bradley;496805]What, you couldn't pray before the event? Poor, poor persecuted Christians. I bet you guys would object if you found the Coach to be a Satanist, and the calls were for Satanist prayers.[/QUOTE I'm not claiming to be persecuted. I just stated that no one should be forced to pray and that no one should be denied the right to pray. How does that make me sound persecuted? I thought it is a rational response. If there is a Satanist who feels the need to pray to his/her god then the same thing applies to them. So why would this be a problem Milton? |
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| It's my first name! Location: Buffalo, New York, USA Posts: 3,523 | Quote:
On the other side of that coin, however, the government had damned well better keep its hands off religion - and that means, among other things, teachers (government representatives) have no business forcing, requiring, encouraging, etc. students to participate in religious activities (like making Ganeshes or worry dolls or "taking a knee" as in the case in question), or prohibiting students from such activities (like a recent case in I think Wisconsin). "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." -John Quincy Adams - | |
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| formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,010 | Quote:
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The Rutherford Institute - Press Releases And it seems to me that it is a case of disallowing the coach the right to pray. And apparently they are not allowed to pray before or after plays either. Honestly its not about a requirement of prayer its about praying at all. I just don't see why its a problem. If you are Jewish say a prayer from Torah, if your Buddhist say a chant etc. | |
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| It's my first name! Location: Buffalo, New York, USA Posts: 3,523 | Quote:
"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." -John Quincy Adams - | |
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| It's my first name! Location: Buffalo, New York, USA Posts: 3,523 | Quote:
"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." -John Quincy Adams - | |
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Borden "said the prayer prior to the first pre-game dinner of the 2003, 2004, and 2005 seasons. For the subsequent weeks of those seasons, Borden asked those attending the dinner to “please stand,” and chose a senior player to say a prayer,....... Borden led his team in a prayer immediately before the game. Prior to taking the field, Borden and his assistant coaches asked the players to take a knee in the locker room. The team gathered in front of the chalkboard or dry erase board on one knee, and at that time, Borden discussed the tactics and strategy for that particular game. Following that discussion, Borden led the team in a prayer. | ||
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| formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,010 | The article addresses that: "Freedom from religion does not mean, as some mistakenly seem to claim, being free from seeing religion in society. No one has the right not to see churches, religious expression, and other examples of religious belief in our nation — and those who advocate freedom of religion do not claim otherwise." The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant) |
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| It's my first name! Location: Buffalo, New York, USA Posts: 3,523 | Quote:
The problem here is that this is a government representative leading his students in a religious exercise while in his capacity as a government representative. It would be different if he, as an ordinary citizen (which he is when he is not acting in his capacity as a government representative) led a bunch of kids in prayer during an event that had nothing whatsoever to do with the school. "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." -John Quincy Adams - | |
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| It's my first name! Location: Buffalo, New York, USA Posts: 3,523 | Quote:
"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." -John Quincy Adams - | |
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| formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,010 | Quote:
BTW-I'm not giving you any crap. I'm posting for everyone here. You are all free to take my crap, but I don't wish to make the effort to actually give it to you. ![]() The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant) | |
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