Hillary for President

[Whatssnew]

Why do you think Hillary should be president. What are her relevant qualifacations in your view? Do you think she has weaknesses that could cost her the election? Do you think she can win?

[Technosoul]

She would win over McCain, not doubt about that in my mind, the only "weakness" she might have would be defeating Obama who is more or less her clone relative to platform agendas.

For example: First Obama said on his first day in office he would order the troops to come home from Iraq within 6 months, all of them. Clinton took a more realistic stand for a more organized withdraw. Then Obama slowly gave up his 6 month withdraw idea and copied what Clinton was had said.

That reduced the differences between Clinton and Obama, resulting in the a contest of personality differences, or who would accidently miss-speak.

In order to beat McCain the Obama camp would have to become more like Clinton. But that could backfire because McCain could point out how Obama did not stay the course of his original statements.

So are you talking about the primary election of the final Presidental election?

[Whatssnew]

So are you talking about the primary election of the final Presidental election?

Both, but mostly who will win the final.

[xyzer]

Senator Clinton is a pathetic excuse for a potential commander in chief? She has no military experience except her disdain for the military while she was living in the White House. She has had no executive experience except potential 'pillow talk' with her husband when he was president? Funny thing they weren't even sleeping togehter during that time as is evidenced by Bills insatiable sexual appetite and search for willing partners.! She has done little if anything constructive as a Senator in the national legislature, except to cleverly weave her personal presidential aspirations into her persona? Can you name any major senatorial legislative accomploshments she has achieved? From her talk she want bigger more intrusive government and will be for higher taxes to pay for it.
Her background has been sullied by her avoidance of a subpoena on Whitwater, the FBI files scandal, the Travelgate mess, her obvious involvement in Whitewater, her continued campaign fund irregularities, and the cover up of the Foster records.

I don't think she can even beat McCain in a national election? But more importantly she probably wont even get the nomination unless she can get the so called super delegates to vote for her? That bit of devious politics might split the Democrat Party.
Obama probably has a better chance to defeat McCain but I too look on him as a terrible Commander in Chief and big government high tax socialist! We who pay the taxes in this country mistrust these promisers of all sorts of government largess. We have to pay for it!

[grandpa]

Quote by: xyzer Senator Clinton is a pathetic excuse for a potential commander in chief? She has no military experience except her disdain for the military while she was living in the White House.

First, do you have evidence of Hillary's disdain? Second, why should the White House praise militarism?

Grandpa h.

[ParaTed2k]

Quote by: Whatssnew Why do you think Hillary should be president. What are her relevant qualifacations in your view? Do you think she has weaknesses that could cost her the election? Do you think she can win?

She has already lost... unless she turns to illegal means to secure the nomination... which of course, isn't out of the question, so we'll see what happens.

[Technosoul]

I is not over until the superdeligates acturally vote.

Deligates can always switch sides and go for Hillary who now side with Obama.

A lot of things could cause a major shift in how the superdeligates end up voting. Don't go counting you chickens until they really hatch.

The numbers are very close, and most all of the states have not even held a primary.

Next debate will be Sunday on CNN, a debate between Clinton and Obama about "compassion".

[xyzer]

Come on grandpa?

First, do you have evidence of Hillary's disdain? Second, why should the White House praise militarism?

Who do you think represents our country in wartime and provides security from enemies on a year around basis? Thats not militarism, it's common sense. Why do you think Russia was brought up short in spreading communism throughout the world during the cold war? The US military and its threat of retaliation. Do you think we can deter aggression by waving hankies and fans and just talking? If so you live in a dream world.

You look it up if you doubt me. Hillary was trying to get miltary personnel in the Whitehouse to serve drinks at parties. She also is alleged to have told the pilot of Marine Corps one(Heliocopter) to return and land because she forgot her sun glasses?

While we are on the subject, if you believe that Hillary got much of her executive experience through "pillow talk" and association with her husband and thereby helped run the country while her husband was in office how do you explain these bizarre cabinet appointments?

The feminist tinge .

Janet Reno for attorney general(she violated her oath to uphold our laws and ordered the massacre of nearly 100 innocent men, women AND CHILDREN AT WACO?...She authorized the illegal snatch and deportation of Elian Gonzales subverting the on going legal process.

Madeline Albright an incompetent Secretary of State who held hands with and negotiated with a terrorist in Palestine. And who ignored the build up of international terrorism?

The appointment of an ACLU alumnus...Justice Ginsburg..to the Supreme Court? She who has striven to unravel the fabric of our founding document and who states international law should supercede our own internal law?

Surgeon General Elders in 92/93? A woman who could hardly open her mouth without stepping in it? Whose cure for adolescent sexual misbehavior was the teaching the use of the hand for a more refined onanistic stimulation of genitalia? What a joke.

Is this what we can expect from another Clinton presidency?

[HelioPrime]

Doesn't matter if she would make a good candidate or not.

She's the most electable one out there and she's the only one with a chance to beat McCain.

[Anmon]

Shes a feminist, so no thanks, I don't want that kind of twisted ideology running the most powerful country on the planet.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Quote by: grandpa First, do you have evidence of Hillary's disdain? Second, why should the White House praise militarism? Grandpa h.

experience with the military is not militarism, and disdain for the military would be difficult if you're their commander. I just don't like the Clintons, and Hilary in general. There is some doubt in my mind that Hilary could win against McCain, compared to her, he's the fresh, anti-establishment rogue.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Anmon Shes a feminist, so no thanks, I don't want that kind of twisted ideology running the most powerful country on the planet.

What fiminist organization did you say she is a member of?

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary experience with the military is not militarism, and disdain for the military would be difficult if you're their commander. I just don't like the Clintons, and Hilary in general. There is some doubt in my mind that Hilary could win against McCain, compared to her, he's the fresh, anti-establishment rogue.

Bush also was a rogue, thumbing his nose at Congress and the Untied Nations, thumbing his nose at public opinion, thumbing his nose at the Consitution, thumbing his nose a scientists and envrionmentalists. And now we got McCain thumbing his nose at different people, and at some of the "establishment" within the Republican party. We do not need more of that kind of " I would rather do it my self " attitude.

Now I support both Hillary and Obama, but favor Hillary a little more so then Obama. Hillary was the one who set the basic agenda for the Democratic platfom for this election. Before Obama got well known on the Oprah show. She said "bring the troops home" and laid out a plan for health care and alternative fuel programs, Obama pretty much grabbed that ball and said "I am the man to do all this stuff Hillary proposed". Good basketball game playing for sure on his part.

But when it comes to making a strike at the McCain group, well, let's face it - bowling strikes is not his best game.

[Technosoul]

Prediction: Hillary will win Penn Primary.

[xyzer]

Hey techno, who pays the bills for the national healthcare program(which we really don't need)? Who gives up income as the Bush taxcuts are rescinded? Are you a taxpayer or are you a freeloader? McCain isn't the best but he might at least be a check against the runaway socialism espoused by both Democrats?

What real change do you think Hillary is going to make in the Legislative agenda? A Democrat President amidst a Democrat Congress can cost us tax payers our shirts, maybe even our socks?
Who will carry the hankies, and white feathers into the international war against terrorism? Who will pay for losing "face" internationally if we abruptly give up in Iraq before the terrorist tide is turned? Should we wave like a flag in the breezes with every foreign expression of disfavor and bow before some weird sort of foreign disapproval? Is our foreign policy in our own interests or is it in the interests of some forein dicatator? Just what is this "change" that Clinton and Obama promise? Have either defined it? Who confronts the environmental lobby and allows research and development of new and cheaper domestic oil sources?
Who will seriously address the illegal immigrant problem? Not Hillary or Barack I fear.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Technosoul What fiminist organization did you say she is a member of?

Its not an organisation, its a movement, a set of beliefs.
If you want to nitpick, then I guess NOW would probably have her as a member somewhere.

[Anmon]

Prediction, Obama will beat Hillary, then lose to McCain.

[Gods_Mercenary]

I dunno about that, McCain can't exactly play the anti-establishment card w/ Obama, he'll have to turn to the more experience card that Hilary used, and while he certainly has a better case than hilary dose there, it's showin itself not to be the best strategy.

[grandpa]

Quote by: xyzer Come on grandpa? Who do you think represents our country in wartime and provides security from enemies on a year around basis?

This argument might have made a difference if it had any truth. Nothing about the US government has represented my interests or has provided personal security from terrorism. In fact, when it is not provoking terrorism and aiding terrorists abroad, this country is directly engaged in terror campaigns in my name, which only puts me at risk.

Grandpa h.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary experience with the military is not militarism, and disdain for the military would be difficult if you're their commander. I just don't like the Clintons, and Hilary in general.

I understand your point, but military aggression is militarism, and the US has been doing that for many, many years. It's far worse than a simple game of cheerlead or dogpile.

Grandpa h.