Prisoners re-enter society

[Domino]

How does one person equate to a whole system not working? Its more likely the persons fault.

I meant that the desperate person would perceive the system as broken, not that he was evidence that the system was broken. Once he's decided the system is a con, the smart thing to do is run a con of his own, and remember that the laws are just tricks to keep him from getting ahead. When all else fails, crime still pays.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Domino I meant that the desperate person would perceive the system as broken, not that he was evidence that the system was broken. Once he's decided the system is a con, the smart thing to do is run a con of his own, and remember that the laws are just tricks to keep him from getting ahead. When all else fails, crime still pays.

Broken only because he doesn't want to make it work for him/herself.
A lot of poor people have done it tough but not turned to crime, it's basically a mixture of laziness and no conscience that turns people to crime, not poverty.

[Domino]

Sometimes, I think people define "not lazy" as "willing to do anything for money". It may be that those you call lazy have moral standards which are not being met in the workplaces available.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Well, in that case, they can eat their moral standards.

[Domino]

Yup, they're the first to go, when the hunger pains set in. Once they're out of the way, the world is a buffet.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Domino Sometimes, I think people define "not lazy" as "willing to do anything for money". It may be that those you call lazy have moral standards which are not being met in the workplaces available.

What type of moral standards are you refering to here?

[Domino]

I'm sure there are more varieties than I could list. I've known people who were very picky about who they were willing to work for. I've known people who would refuse a job when they thought the wage was too low for the work. Pile up too many of those, and it might be a while before one finds a suitable job.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Domino I'm sure there are more varieties than I could list. I've known people who were very picky about who they were willing to work for. I've known people who would refuse a job when they thought the wage was too low for the work. Pile up too many of those, and it might be a while before one finds a suitable job.

I can understand this, especially if the person is older.

[another day]

Quote by: Domino I'm sure there are more varieties than I could list. I've known people who were very picky about who they were willing to work for. I've known people who would refuse a job when they thought the wage was too low for the work. Pile up too many of those, and it might be a while before one finds a suitable job.

Those aren't moral standards... That's being a beggar who also wants to be a chooser.

[grandpa]

Quote by: another day Those aren't moral standards... That's being a beggar who also wants to be a chooser.

Well, sometimes being a "chooser" involves moral and immoral behavior. Perhaps one thinks low wages are immoral for the work being done, for example. Morality is applicable to virtually any choices we make, though circumstances may severely restrict our ability, or even our capacity to choose the right thing. A lot of people don't like feeling guilty, so they view themselves as "doers" and not "choosers." They'll go with teh flow and say "it's a job." In fact, that's basically the state of being I'm in lately.

Grandpa h.

[Gods_Mercenary]

If you refuse a job on moral grounds, don't complain to me about not being able to eat, is the point. Now, you might enlist me to help change the situation, but I'm not gonna give you sympathy .

[grandpa]

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary If you refuse a job on moral grounds, don't complain to me about not being able to eat, is the point. Now, you might enlist me to help change the situation, but I'm not gonna give you sympathy.

Actually, I meant that the opposite way. I work at a place I object to in order to afford things. Though it's not benefitting me perfectly, I do have ill-gotten gains. Most people are in similar positions, though in different places. It's a little off-topic, but I'm ready for a change. I've considered joining the Canucks or the Lakota people, or maybe just dropping out totally from this tyrannical system. Of course, all of these things get harder and harder to do as time drags on. But I digress.

Grandpa h.

[Anmon]

What do you mean by ill gotten gains?

[grandpa]

Quote by: Anmon What do you mean by ill gotten gains?

Well, working under this system in general.

Grandpa h.

[Anmon]

Quote by: grandpa Well, working under this system in general. Grandpa h.

Do you realise your avatar is a pentagram upside down, when the NWO establishes power watch all these stars get turned upside down, to reveal whats behind all the conspiracy's all along.
Thats the system your really working under.

[Domino]

It's a pentagram either way. One point up is a sign of warding, two points up is a sign of summoning.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Domino It's a pentagram either way. One point up is a sign of warding, two points up is a sign of summoning.

Don't you think its strange that they are everywhere in our society, regardless of what way they are pointed?
Their not stars as taught, a star really looks nothing like that, the US flag has 50 pentagrams not stars, its really the pentagrams and stripes.

[Domino]

It's not strange: they're pretty. Ten perfectly tangled representations of the Golden Mean (two to each line). Why, just try staring at one for a few hours, perhaps with a few candles for aesthetic enhancement, and you'll find that it's very soothing. Add a nice meditative chant and some incense, and you've got a great way to spend six hours per week that'll leave you feeling refreshed and recharged, ready to tackle the week ahead. Add some sex, do it three times as often, and you've got a wonderful hobby.

At least, that's what I hear... but, anyway, pentagrams are pretty.

[Gods_Mercenary]

It's also a symbol for anything you want, Satanism, Anarchism, Communism, America itself.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary It's also a symbol for anything you want, Satanism, Anarchism, Communism, America itself.

yeah evil things.