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    Wyoming Sheriff Puts Feds in Their Place

    WYOMING SHERIFFS PUT FEDERAL OFFICERS ON CHOKE CHAINS [Free Republic]

    Wyoming sheriffs put feds in their place « disinter


    Wyoming sheriffs put feds in their place
    February 18, 2007

    Here’s one the mainstream media isn’t going to tell you: County sheriffs in Wyoming are demanding that federal agents actually abide by the Constitution, or face arrest. Even better, a U.S. District Court agreed according to the Keene Free Press:

    The court decision was the result of a suit against both the BATF and the IRS by Mattis and other members of the Wyoming Sheriff’s Association. The suit in the Wyoming federal court district sought restoration of the protections enshrined in the United States Constitution and the Wyoming Constitution.

    Guess what? The District Court ruled in favor of the sheriffs. In fact, they stated, Wyoming is a sovereign state and the duly elected sheriff of a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county and has law enforcement powers exceeding that of any other state or federal official.” Go back and re-read this quote.

    The court confirms and asserts that “the duly elected sheriff of a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county and has law enforcement powers EXCEEDING that of any other state OR federal official.” And you thought the 10th Amendment was dead and buried — not in Wyoming, not yet.

    Bighorn County Sheriff Dave Mattis comments:

    “If a sheriff doesn’t want the Feds in his county he has the constitutional right and power to keep them out, or ask them to leave, or retain them in custody.”

    “I am reacting in response to the actions of federal employees who have attempted to deprive citizens of my county of their privacy, their liberty, and their property without regard to constitutional safeguards. I hope that more sheriffs all across America will join us in protecting their citizens from the illegal activities of the IRS, EPA, BATF, FBI, or any other federal agency that is operating outside the confines of constitutional law. Employees of the IRS and the EPA are no longer welcome in Bighorn County unless they intend to operate in conformance to constitutional law.”

    The implications are huge:

    But it gets even better. Since the judge stated that the sheriff “has law enforcement powers EXCEEDING that of any other state OR federal official,” the Wyoming sheriffs are flexing their muscles. They are demanding access to all BATF files. Why? So as to verify that the agency is not violating provisions of Wyoming law that prohibits the registration of firearms or the keeping of a registry of firearm owners. This would be wrong.

    The sheriffs are also demanding that federal agencies immediately cease the seizure of private property and the impoundment of private bank accounts without regard to due process in Wyoming state courts.

    This case is not just some amusing mountain melodrama. This is a BIG deal. This case is yet further evidence that the 10th Amendment is not yet totally dead, or in a complete decay in the United States. It is also significant in that it can, may, and hopefully will be interpreted to mean that “political subdivisions of a State are included within the meaning of the amendment, or that the powers exercised by a sheriff are an extension of those common law powers which the 10th Amendment explicitly reserves to the People, if they are not granted to the federal government or specifically prohibited to the States.”

    It appears to me that one office where the Libertarian Party should focus it’s limited resources is County Sheriff. The change that could be made is nothing to laugh at. Meanwhile, there are still a bunch of nuts wasting valuable resources supporting those that seek offices that will never be won.

    Let's hope this ruling stands, and is not overturned by Bid Bad Brother.


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    Huh??? The "mainstream media" is avoiding this "case" for good reason... These articles are completely bogus.

    This sheriff is off his rocker. First of all, the Sheriff's office was a co-defendant in the case WITH the United States.

    Second of all, the case was dismissed with prejudice - both the US and the County won.


    Basically, the case (from what I could gather off of PACER) involves some Hispanics in Wyoming suing the Sheriffs and INS. Someone from the Sheriff's office (allegedly) tipped off the INS that there might be illegals living in this place, and the INS busted in. All the people were legal, and the residents sued for civil rights infringement.


    Here's a statement from the court:

    Quote Quote by: U.S. District Court of Wyoming
    United States District Court

    District of Wyoming

    Our office has been receiving inquiries regarding the case of
    Castaneda v. United States, No. 96-CV-099. This was a civil case arising out of an alleged entry into an apartment by law enforcement officials in June of 1993. The Plaintiffs, who were staying in the apartment, alleged that the officials violated their civil rights. They filed
    an action against the United States, unnamed INS agents, Big Horn County, the County Sheriff, and unnamed Sheriff's deputies.

    The complaint was filed in the Federal District Court for the
    District of Wyoming in May, 1996. The federal defendants were primarily represented by attorneys with the Constitutional Torts Branch of the Civil Division of the Department of Justice. The County defendants were represented by non-federal attorneys. The case was settled following a settlement conference in 1997. The court did not rule on Plaintiffs' claims or any other legal issues in the case. After the settlement conference,
    Big Horn County Sheriff, David M. Mattis, issued a "Policy." In the "Policy," the Sheriff purports to impose conditions upon federal law enforcement operations in the County.

    We have learned that it has been reported, erroneously, that the
    court made a legal ruling in the Castaneda case regarding the authority of federal law enforcement officials to conduct operations in the County. There was no such ruling or decision. Instead, the court simply granted a motion, submitted jointly by all the parties, to dismiss the case because the parties had settled.

    This Court has never issued an order which would serve to limit the
    lawful activities and duties of federal law enforcement officers and other federal employees in the District of Wyoming.

    Furthermore, this Court has never made the comments attributed to it
    which purports to advise state officers they can prohibit federal law enforcement officers or agents from entering a Wyoming County. Those alleged quotations are utterly false.

    Any person who interferes with federal officers in performance of
    their duties subjects themselves to the risk of criminal prosecution.

    William F. Downes
    Chief Judge, District of Wyoming
    I'll sit back and wait for the non-retraction...

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    We have learned that it has been reported, erroneously,

    Yeah, you can clearly see where it's my mistake.


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    “the duly elected sheriff of a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county and has law enforcement powers EXCEEDING that of any other state OR federal official.”
    This should have been the hint. That's about as correct as saying the sky is green on Thursdays.

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    Quote Quote by: Milton Bradley View Post
    Yeah, you can clearly see where it's my mistake.
    Isn't this the second time in recent history you've jumped the gun against us "nanny staters"

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    Well, it appears that some people are playing fast, and loose with the truth.


    Notice how Tivo didn't source his quote? That's because it is manufactured tripe.


    STATES RIGHTS MOVEMENT

    Local resistance to heavy-handed federal agencies has developed into a campaign and is spreading throughout the western United States. Known as the Tenth Amendment, or the States Rights movement, it derives its authority from the Tenth Amendment of the Constitution which states that, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, not prohibited to it by the States, are reserved to the States respectively or to the people." Backed with the power of the U.S.Constitution, states are challenging the jurisdiction of the federal government.

    MONTANA- Ravali County Sheriff Jay Printz has refused to enforce terms of the Brady law which requires law enforcement agencies to perform background checks on gun buyers. The Sheriff says he has neither the "manpower" nor the "time", besides, "we like our guns in Montana."

    CALIFORNIA- The state with major illegal immigration problems, and required by the federal government to support them, filed suit to require the United States to assume the entire cost of education, providing medical treatment and imprisoning illegal aliens.

    ALASKA- Fed up with restrictions, the state filed a $29 billion suit charging that the United States has locked up 100 million acres of its land, violating the compact by which it became a state.

    NEVADA- Nye County Commissioners passed local ordinances which declare that federal lands in their county are by constitutional right the property of Nevada and, by custom and culture, the ward of the local citizen. Nye is one of 300 counties nationwide that has or is considering such ordinances.
    States Rights Movement vs Federal Government


    Example
    Printz v. United States, 521 U.S. 898 (1997)

    These early laws establish, at most, that the Constitution was originally understood to permit imposition of an obligation on state judges to enforce federal prescriptions, insofar as those prescriptions related to matters appropriate for the judicial power. That assumption was perhaps implicit in one of the provisions of the Constitution, and was explicit in another. In accord with the so called Madisonian Compromise, Article III, §1, established only a Supreme Court, and made the creation of lower federal courts optional with the Congress--even though it was obvious that the Supreme Court alone could not hear all federal cases throughout the United States. See C. Warren, The Making of the Constitution 325-327 (1928). And the Supremacy Clause, Art. VI, cl. 2, announced that "the Laws of the United States . . . shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby." It is understandable why courts should have been viewed distinctively in this regard; unlike legislatures and executives, they applied the law of other sovereigns all the time. The principle underlying so called "transitory" causes of action was that laws which operated elsewhere created obligations in justice that courts of the forum state would enforce. See, e.g., McKenna v. Fisk, 1 How. 241, 247-249 (1843). The Constitution itself, in the Full Faith and Credit Clause, Art. IV, §1, generally required such enforcement with respect to obligations arising in other States. See Hughes v. Fetter, 341 U.S. 609 (1951).

    For these reasons, we do not think the early statutes imposing obligations on state courts imply a power of Congress to impress the state executive into its service. Indeed, it can be argued that the numerousness of these statutes, contrasted with the utter lack of statutes imposing obligations on the States' executive (notwithstanding the attractiveness of that course to Congress), suggests an assumed absence of such power. [n.2] The only early federal law the Government has brought to our attention that imposed duties on state executive officers is the Extradition Act of 1793, which required the "executive authority" of a State to cause the arrest and delivery of a fugitive from justice upon the request of the executive authority of the State from which the fugitive had fled. See Act of Feb. 12, 1793, ch. 7, §1, 1 Stat. 302. That was in direct implementation, however, of the Extradition Clause of the Constitution itself, see Art. IV, §2. [n.3]

    Not only do the enactments of the early Congresses, as far as we are aware, contain no evidence of an assumption that the Federal Government may command the States' executive power in the absence of a particularized constitutional authorization, they contain some indication of precisely the opposite assumption. On September 23, 1789--the day before its proposal of the Bill of Rights, see 1 Annals of Congress 912-913--the First Congress enacted a law aimed at obtaining state assistance of the most rudimentary and necessary sort for the enforcement of the new Government's laws: the holding of federal prisoners in state jails at federal expense. Significantly, the law issued not a command to the States' executive, but a recommendation to their legislatures. Congress "recommended to the legislatures of the several States to pass laws, making it expressly the duty of the keepers of their gaols, to receive and safe keep therein all prisoners committed under the authority of the United States," and offered to pay 50 cents per month for each prisoner. Act of Sept. 23, 1789, 1 Stat. 96. Moreover, when Georgia refused to comply with the request, see L. White, The Federalists 402 (1948), Congress's only reaction was a law authorizing the marshal in any State that failed to comply with the Recommendation of September 23, 1789, to rent a temporary jail until provision for a permanent one could be made, see Resolution of Mar. 3, 1791, 1 Stat. 225.

    In addition to early legislation, the Government also appeals to other sources we have usually regarded as indicative of the original understanding of the Constitution. It points to portions of The Federalist which reply to criticisms that Congress's power to tax will produce two sets of revenue officers--for example, "Brutus's" assertion in his letter to the New York Journal of December 13, 1787, that the Constitution "opens a door to the appointment of a swarm of revenue and excise officers to prey upon the honest and industrious part of the community, eat up their substance, and riot on the spoils of the country," reprinted in 1 Debate on the Constitution 502 (B. Bailyn ed. 1993). "Publius" responded that Congress will probably "make use of the State officers and State regulations, for collecting" federal taxes, The Federalist No. 36, p. 221 (C. Rossiter ed. 1961) (A. Hamilton) (hereinafter The Federalist), and predicted that "the eventual collection [of internal revenue] under the immediate authority of the Union, will generally be made by the officers, and according to the rules, appointed by the several States," id., No. 45, at 292 (J. Madison). The Government also invokes the Federalist's more general observations that the Constitution would "enable the [national] government to employ the ordinary magistracy of each [State] in the execution of its laws," id., No. 27, at 176 (A. Hamilton), and that it was "extremely probable that in other instances, particularly in the organization of the judicial power, the officers of the States will be clothed in the correspondent authority of the Union," id., No. 45, at 292 (J. Madison). But none of these statements necessarily implies--what is the critical point here--that Congress could impose these responsibilities without the consent of the States.

    But I supose Tivo is here to "improve his debate skills", and not to arrive at the truth, so no real surprise here either.


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    Quote Quote by: HelioPrime View Post
    Isn't this the second time in recent history you've jumped the gun against us "nanny staters"

    In the other case, I just wrongly assumed that since power was not vested in one place, that it defaulted to the other, which was appearently not the case.


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    Quote Quote by: Milton Bradley View Post
    Well, it appears that some people are playing fast, and loose with the truth.

    Notice how Tivo didn't source his quote? That's because it is manufactured tripe.
    I didn't source it because it comes off of PACER - Public Access to Court Electronic Records. If you'd like to pay $.08 a page to access it, you can see it too. Just look for the case name.

    It's not manufactured tripe. Your "article" is FACTUALLY incorrect.

    Here is the same press release from the court on another website:
    Wyoming Sheriff Thread is Bogus, Unfortunately

    Here is the court docket, only thing I could find on a free site:
    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/usr/wba..._us_docket.txt

    Note the final three entries:

    3/6/97 -- SETTLEMENT CONFERENCE HELD before Magistrate Judge Beaman;
    case settled (jw) [Entry date 03/10/97]

    4/23/97 95 JOINT MOTION by parties to dismiss (jw)

    4/29/97 96 ORDER by Honorable William F. Downes granting joint motion
    to dismiss [95-1] dismissing case (cc: all counsel mld
    from CPR 4/30/97; EOD 4/29/97) (jg)
    The case was settled at a conference and then the parties JOINTLY dismissed it. Because the case was dismissed, that means that NO decision was written, and the court made no opinion in the case, which means that this portion of your story:

    Guess what? The District Court ruled in favor of the sheriffs. In fact, they stated, Wyoming is a sovereign state and the duly elected sheriff of a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county and has law enforcement powers exceeding that of any other state or federal official.” Go back and re-read this quote.

    The court confirms and asserts that “the duly elected sheriff of a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county and has law enforcement powers EXCEEDING that of any other state OR federal official.”
    ... Is COMPLETELY FABRICATED. No court ever said that. I don't know who made that up - the article writer, the Sheriff... But it is a total fabrication.

    edit: I have the REAL order dismissing the case. It's laughably short. I mean not for a case - it's appropriate for what it is. But laughable because of the importance some people are giving the case... PM me with an email address if anyone wants it.

    But I supose Tivo is here to "improve his debate skills", and not to arrive at the truth, so no real surprise here either.
    I don't see the need for the personal attacks... You got fooled by this article, the same as lots of other people have been fooled. Simply admit the article is a fraud and we can close out the thread and move on.

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