Can American occupation really stop all the violence in Iraq, so that it returns to being a internally peaceful country?
Or are we wasting time, money, and the lives of our troops on a no win situation?
Yes.
No.
Perhaps, under new leadership in the White House.
Perhaps, if the current policy is given enough time.
Can American occupation really stop all the violence in Iraq, so that it returns to being a internally peaceful country?
Or are we wasting time, money, and the lives of our troops on a no win situation?
This is a difficult one and I'm suprised that nobody has commented on this thread yet, 'cause it's obviously very contentious.
I think it is possible (I voted for 'Perhaps, under new leadership', because obviously Bush's Government hasn't got the answer - after 5 years!), but it will be a battle of intelligence and diplomacy.
The US and UK need to throw in as much of their intelligence and diplomatic resources as they can spare, in order to root out the extremist clerics and leaders who are inciting and organising these market place (as well as other public area) suicide bombings.
Brut force is not the answer I don't think (if anything, I think it's exacerbated the problem to date). Recruits who go to "fight" (for want of a better word) in Iraq, should be given more training on diplomatic interaction with the Iraqi people.
Once the main perpetrators behind the violence have been caught, then it will be time to start handing over the security and policing of the country (in full) to the Iraqis.
It would be nice to capture some of the organizers behind those bombings that take place and put them away someplace.
As well as those who organized the war in the first place and talked Congress into funding it with tricks and deceptions.
But the poll is showing an interesting result. If this poll is reflective of what 500 people might vote then our canidates should know about how the public thinks about this.
Too bad that CNN does not create good polls like I do. (hey CNN I could use a job).
Mmm, perhaps it would be some consolation, but the fact is we're there now and it's our problem to solve, because we caused it. And by we, I mean our Governments.Quote by: Technosoul
The people you would like to put away, have some responsibility to stand up to. So maybe when they've sorted out this problem, we should consider whether to hold them to account for the many lives that have been lost.
I am not sure that we can bring peace. But I think if we unilaterally pulled out right now Iraq would spiral into chao, civil war and ethnic cleansing. I just don't think the Iraqi government could hold the country together.
I think we created the mess and should at least try while their is at least a little hope of success. And yes with violence going down due to the surge, that is the hope I'm talking about!
What little success that has been acheived is only temporary. The Iraqi government will never have any real power and will need our support forever and ever.I think we created the mess and should at least try while their is at least a little hope of success. And yes with violence going down due to the surge, that is the hope I'm talking about!
And so any temporary stability comes at our expense and from our money. We should just pull out and get it over with.
I think that's a little bleak. The first civilizations on the planet were founded in ancient Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq). If we (in the western world) perished tommorow, I expect that they will do just fine without us.
The point is that we have started this mess and have a responsibility to bring some stability to the region.
At this point, it seems repairing Iraq can be achieved only with help from
others. This help can come in form of relief efforts, reparations, etc. But militarism isn't likely to solve Iraq's problems, or ours.
Of course, I may be wrong.
Grandpa h.
Post by post, building his arguments by smashing a couple of theirs -- for America.
Iraq will have peace only when Iraq wants peace. There isn't anything we or anybody else can do about that. It will come when it comes
Peace will enter when hatred departs. A military cannot defeat hatred, that is only done with love, understanding, and wisdom.
Only with a boot stamping on the hands in Iraq.
Aldous Huxley speech at berkley
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/VideoTest/hux1.ram
Q&A:
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/VideoTest/hux2.ram
I couldn't agree more.
I think that peace is obtainable in Iraq and other war-torn nations like Sudan. Our government needs to realize that these "civil wars" are not going to be solved by democracy or overthrowing their current systems of government.
If we take Iraq for example, the conflict and civil war is rooted in centuries of conflict within the Muslim religion. We can not erase that conflict with guns. Case and point: we eliminated Hussein as an extremist leader, but others simply rose to his position and commanded the extremists. That is the problem with our current strategy, we eliminate one leader not realizing that the position will be easily filled.
If we realize the differences and causes of the civil war in Iraq, we will understand that to try and install democracy in Iraq is a joke. Looking at our nation's history we see that it took a fair amount of time for our democratic, national government to obtain stability and peace among dissenters. In a nation that is more separated than we were, it is almost ridiculous to force a system of government on to the willing and dissenters, alike.
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