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Old Mar 3, 2008, 10:30 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Sick and tired of Chavez!

This guy is leading his country into the pooper and now is trying exsert his force on Colombia! Chavez, you arrogant communist facists, Colombia has been dealing with a voilent and merciless insurrection for 4-6 decades. These terrorist have made Colombia one of the most dangerous countries in the world and has made it the kipnap capital of the world.

How dear you state that Raul Reyes, the FARC leader, was a good man. He is responsible for the inhuman kipnaping of innocent civilians, foreign businessmen and children. This guy was a monster and the entire world is better off that he is dead.

How dear you say there was no justification for this killing or the cross-border incursion. Ecuador was giving a safe haven to this lunatic! Colombia was more then justified in taking Reyes out.

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Old Mar 3, 2008, 12:36 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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It is Chavez who is rescuing the hostages, not your dearest Geroge Bush.

After years of exploitations, Veneguelans are getting food and below market price oil. Their natural resources are being spent on their poor population. All credit goes to Chavez.


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Old Mar 3, 2008, 12:46 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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It is Chavez who is rescuing the hostages, not your dearest Geroge Bush.
Are you advocating the USA do something about it?


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Old Mar 3, 2008, 12:51 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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It is Chavez who is rescuing the hostages, not your dearest Geroge Bush.
He has done much yet, FARC still has a ton of hostages. The only reason he has gotten anywhere with the terrorists is because he supports the terrorist!

Also you will find no love for Bush here. He almost in the beginning had me thinking of going Democratic (almost). 8 years of Bush has crippled America!

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After years of exploitations, Veneguelans are getting food and below market price oil. Their natural resources are being spent on their poor population. All credit goes to Chavez.
Any country with Venezuela's vast petroleum resources that is relatively a small country, should have prosperity.

Once the oil boom bursts with the invention of the alternative fuel car, Venezuela, as will all the countries that depend on oil exports for their economies success (IRAN, Saudia Arabia, Russia, Venezuela) will crumble! Chavez is not the reason for the growth. Rather the spike in oil prices is! Same reason that the Russian economy has grown!

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Old Mar 3, 2008, 02:18 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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He has done much yet.
The only reason he has good with the terrorist is
because he supports the terrorist.
Which terrorist/s does he support? What evidence would you refer me to? Has he supported the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas (for example)?

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Old Mar 3, 2008, 02:35 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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It is Chavez who is rescuing the hostages, not your dearest Geroge Bush.

After years of exploitations, Veneguelans are getting food and below market price oil. Their natural resources are being spent on their poor population. All credit goes to Chavez.
#1
What it has in common with economy ?
Are you suggesting Hugo did it himself ?

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U.S. has a tremendous potential to switch from the oil to bio-fuel within few years, since the technological advances (U.S. is in a possession of) would prompt that switch to materialize very fast and easy.
What Venezuela (and states alike) are going to offer to others when bio-fuel becomes a standard ?
The whole Middle-East based states would become a dot on economical map of the world, since there is not much of clients with a sudden drive for camels, scorpios, desert dust, etc. around the world, except for dwellers themselves (most likely).
What would happen that other states need no crude oil any longer ?
What all those states can offer to the rest of the world ?
Not much, almost nothing.
I expect massive political system collapse within those states. Unrests would become daily events. Religions would be shaken to the grounds.
In other words : those states would become unstable, completely. That would indicate a huge problem to the rest of the world :
- how to handle the situation, especially since the Iranian governing body is heavily interested in making WMD
- how to feed all those people (the major issue)
- how to treat those people

What Hugo's credits are you talking about ?
Look at the unknown that is approaching, instead of gloryfying some political deviants. Life is not a cartoon, with wondeful solutions. I am afraid Venezuela would pay its price for Hugo's ideas.
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 03:03 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Which terrorist/s does he support? What evidence would you refer me to? Has he supported the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas (for example)?

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Right there in the original story! FARC are some real bad dudes!
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Chavez called the killing of rebel leader and spokesman Raul Reyes and 16 other rebels on Saturday an attack by a "terrorist state."
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Chavez has increasingly revealed his sympathies for the FARC, and in January asked that it be struck from lists of terrorist groups internationally.

The leftist FARC has been fighting Colombia's government for more than four decades, and funds itself largely through the cocaine trade and kidnaps for ransom and political ends.
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FARC, a terrorist organization that continues to hold Colombians, Americans and others hostage."
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 05:12 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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I don't like Chavez but who cares how he runs his country? Why is it OK for us to meddle in Columbia's affairs but not THEIR NEXT DOOR neighbors? Let the communists worry about governing the world and make fixing your own country your priority...
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 05:15 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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NYSE Chief Meets Top Colombia Rebel Leader
Saturday, 26 June 1999
BOGOTA -- The head of the New York Stock Exchange held face-to-face talks Saturday with a leader of Colombia's main Marxist rebel group, government sources said.

They said NYSE Chairman Richard Grasso flew into a demilitarized region of Colombia's southern jungle and savanna for his talks with a member of the general secretariat of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC).

A government spokesman initially said Grasso had met Manuel Marulanda, a legendary figure known by the alias ``Sureshot'' and the FARC's maximum commander.

But the state-run news agency ANCOL later reported that Grasso had met Raul Reyes, one of Marulanda's top deputies and his chief negotiator in fledgling peace talks with the government.

The meeting was thought to be the first between a senior member of the FARC, which is radically opposed to capitalism, and a representative of one of the world's top financial markets.

ANCOL quoted Grasso as having stressed the importance of full-fledged negotiations between the government and FARC, which are due to get under way on July 7 and aimed at ending a conflict that has taken more than 35,000 lives over the last decade alone.

The news agency said Grasso had extended a personal invitation to leaders of the FARC, which is considered a ''terrorist'' organization by the State Department, to visit Wall Street as soon as possible.

"I invite members of the FARC to visit the New York Stock Exchange so that they can get to know the market personally," Grasso was quoted as saying.

"I truly hope that they can do this," he added.

The government has granted the FARC control of a Switzerland-sized area of south and southeast Colombia since last November as a confidence-building measure to enter into peace talks.

ANCOL said Grasso's talks with Reyes, which lasted 1-1/2 hours, took place inside the rebel-controlled zone in an area near the village of La Machacha, in southern Caqueta province.

The news agency also said Grasso, whose presence in Colombia was kept secret until Saturday, was slated to return to New York Sunday.

Local media said Grasso had asked to meet a representative of the FARC's high command to discuss foreign investment and the future role of U.S. businesses in Colombia.

The FARC and a smaller rebel group, the National Liberation Army (ELN), both took up arms against the state in the mid-1960s and have a long-running tradition of targeting U.S. interests in Colombia.

Both groups also use kidnapping to help bankroll their war effort.
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Old Mar 4, 2008, 02:06 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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It is Chavez who is rescuing the hostages, not your dearest Geroge Bush.

After years of exploitations, Veneguelans are getting food and below market price oil. Their natural resources are being spent on their poor population. All credit goes to Chavez.
Exactly. President Chavez is the first president to stand up to the American Colonist Mentality, since Castro.

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Are you advocating the USA do something about it?
Oh, for the sake of all the people of South America i certainly hope they don't.

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Which terrorist/s does he support? What evidence would you refer me to? Has he supported the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas (for example)?

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The FARC was recently cleared of all charged of Terrorism in relations to the case against Fighters+Lovers.


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Old Mar 4, 2008, 02:17 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Old Mar 4, 2008, 02:36 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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I believe this forum has a rule against posting the same post in multiple threads. But so be it. You will get exactly the same reply:

I don't see your point. Cocaine is a large part of the Columbian Government, and if the FARC want to have a go at Victory - and at helping the country break it "Cocaine addiction" it needs to obtain those fields, and temporarily deal from them. Just burning the fields like the Government does, would starve the people.


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Old Mar 4, 2008, 03:33 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Your reply is irrelevent and sad. Funny how easy it is for you people to toss your princples out the window on a whim. I posted the pic in more than one thread because there is more than one thread touching on the issue.

What a baby...
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Old Mar 4, 2008, 03:38 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Your reply is irrelevent and sad. Funny how easy it is for you people to toss your princples out the window on a whim. I posted the pic in more than one thread because there is more than one thread touching on the issue.

What a baby...
I honestly don't see what the hell this has to do with my principles (btw: you spelled that wrong.) This particular thread, isn't on Raul Reyes. It's on Chavez. Stick to the topic please. :)


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Old Mar 4, 2008, 03:39 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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I didn't spell it wrong. Its called a typo. Get a life....or at least beg big brother to provide one for you....lol
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Old Mar 4, 2008, 03:42 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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I didn't spell it wrong. Its called a typo. Get a life....or at least beg big brother to provide one for you....lol
Thank you for that. You made my day.


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Old Mar 4, 2008, 04:02 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Worthless, freeloading, tyranny enabling control freaks....
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Old Mar 4, 2008, 04:06 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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I'm gonna stop reading your post before i choke on laughter. I'm very sorry, i guess i have to little self-control.


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