2/14/2008: Newly Released FBI Timeline Reveals New Information about 9/11 Hijackers

[thx1138]

2/14/2008: Newly Released FBI Timeline Reveals New Information about 9/11 Hijackers that Was Ignored by 9/11 Commission

New evidence suggests that some of the hijackers were assisted by employees of the Saudi government. It has previously been reported that Omar al-Bayoumi, a Saudi who was paid by the Saudi government despite not doing any work, assisted hijackers Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi when they first moved to the US. The FBI timeline shows that when these two hijackers moved into their first San Diego apartment, they indicated that they had been living with Bayoumi in the apartment next door for the previous two weeks. In fact, they had been with him in that apartment since January 15, 2000, the very day they first flew into the US, arriving in Los Angeles. The timeline also reveals that hijacker Hani Hanjour was seen in Bayoumi’s apartment.

The more you learn about what is happening behind the news media screen, the more you realise you're being lied to every day.

[Chaossaber314]

Quote by: thx1138 2/14/2008: Newly Released FBI Timeline Reveals New Information about 9/11 Hijackers that Was Ignored by 9/11 Commission The more you learn about what is happening behind the news media screen, the more you realise you're being lied to every day.

That's very interesting if you can provide a credible source for it.

Though I find it humorous that if the Saudi government was responsible for 9/11 it immediately debunks 90% of the current Conspiracy Theories out there.

[Nono]

Well, Sabe, the confirmation of any one conspiracy would necessarily invalidate the others postulated, wouldn't it?

[thx1138]

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It make for a very interesting documentary when the Bush family and Saudi family link up for big bucks pumping that black gold.

[Chaossaber314]

Quote by: Nono Well, Sabe, the confirmation of any one conspiracy would necessarily invalidate the others postulated, wouldn't it?

Not necessarily. That's why many of them continue to flourish. The base of the truther movement is that "Bush did it". They don't really give a sh*t if it was by controlled demolition or flying empty planes by remote or missiles or whatever the flavor of the week happens to be. However, when you change the message from "Bush did it" to "The Saudi Royal Family did it" then you invalidate the vast vast majority of the conspiracies out there and the foundation of the "movement".

[Clarence]

I've always contended that we simply do not know exactly what happened. It's not a position that's been too hard to defend.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Chaossaber314 Not necessarily. That's why many of them continue to flourish. The base of the truther movement is that "Bush did it". They don't really give a sh*t if it was by controlled demolition or flying empty planes by remote or missiles or whatever the flavor of the week happens to be. However, when you change the message from "Bush did it" to "The Saudi Royal Family did it" then you invalidate the vast vast majority of the conspiracies out there and the foundation of the "movement".

Nonsense. If anybody can be tied to the Saudis, it's George "Wiretap" Bush.

[Clarence]

that's true

[tivodan1116]

But... but... but... I thought there were no hijackers? I thought the towers were destroyed by a giant laser beam from space and the footage we saw was produced in a Hollywood studio and all of the people who thought they saw it live had been sprayed with hallucinogens???????

[Clarence]

perfect

[thx1138]

But... but... but... I thought there were no hijackers? I thought the towers were destroyed by a giant laser beam from space and the footage we saw was produced in a Hollywood studio and all of the people who thought they saw it live had been sprayed with hallucinogens???????

This is the kind of crap that keeps people from asking serious questions. Disinformation like "sprayed with hallucinogens" is to turn any serious inquiry into a joke... And by the way the CIA did spay hallucinogens on unexpected citizens in the subway. So not too funny is it?

MKULTRA: a CIA/LSD Mind Control Project in the USA during the 1950's and 1960's. They were looking for a way to use drugs in warfare. For example: as a truth serum to aid in interrogation. They also studied hypnosis and sensory deprivation. On the Senate floor in 1977, Senator Ted Kennedy said: "The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens 'at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign.' Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to 'unwitting subjects in social situations.' At least one death, that of Dr. Olson, resulted from these activities. The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observers." source: Congressional Record.

LHCMA catalogue: BAD TRIP TO EDGEWOOD: US Army drug testing, television documentary archive, 1950–1992

[Chaossaber314]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Nonsense. If anybody can be tied to the Saudis, it's George "Wiretap" Bush.

Oh right... so Bush had the Saudi Royal Family command the 9/11 attacks and then set explosives in the Trade Center, launched a missile into the pentagon, and then shot down United 93....

Oh I'm sorry, you said something about nonsense?

If there are real terrorists, even if they're working for the Saudi Government, there's no reason for the trade towers to be rigged with explosives.

If there are real terrorists, there is no need for a missile to hit the pentagon.

If there are real terrorists, there is no reason for United 93 to be shot down if they're under Saudi control or subsidiaries of subsidiaries of Bush.

[thx1138]

Quote by: Chaossaber314 Oh right... so Bush had the Saudi Royal Family command the 9/11 attacks and then set explosives in the Trade Center, launched a missile into the pentagon, and then shot down United 93.... Oh I'm sorry, you said something about nonsense? If there are real terrorists, even if they're working for the Saudi Government, there's no reason for the trade towers to be rigged with explosives. If there are real terrorists, there is no need for a missile to hit the pentagon. If there are real terrorists, there is no reason for United 93 to be shot down if they're under Saudi control or subsidiaries of subsidiaries of Bush.

I think you're expecting a simple clear cut answer to something that is very complex. I think the question should be why and how. If we knew how we may not be living for very long.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: Chaos there's no reason for the trade towers to be rigged with explosives.

Actually there are SEVERAL reasons.
Most importantly, for the shock and awe. secondly for the destruction of evidence... or rather the ABSENSE of evidence, like luggage (which was also nowhere to be found for the Penatagon and Pensylvania crashes).
Also the towers HAD to drop because they had been tagged for demolition... Silverman would have had to PAY for a lengthy piece by piece demolition... instead he was PAID Billions of dollars thanks to the "terrorism".
A Bush was in charge of security for the towers and had even shut down all the power; for the first time in history(security cams down too) to the towers in the weekend prior to the demolitions. There was an Israeli Moving and storage company that had moved out of one of the towers 2 weeks before the 911 demolition. They had occupied an ENTIRE floor. The Bush brother had the keys. They had opportunity, motive (PNAC's "New Pearl Harbor") and means. Dick Cheney was controlling the war games that morning, which involved airliners flying into towers. Thos war games were never called off until AFTER the "terrorists" had ruled our air space for TWO freakin hours.

Its late. G' nite!

[tivodan1116]

Quote by: thx1138 This is the kind of crap that keeps people from asking serious questions. Disinformation like "sprayed with hallucinogens" is to turn any serious inquiry into a joke...

Apparently you are unaware that there are kooks out there actually positing what I said as an actual theory of what happened on 9/11.

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Quote by: gr8fuldaniel Actually there are SEVERAL reasons. Most importantly, for the shock and awe.

Because the attacks themselves weren't shocking enough, I guess...

secondly for the destruction of evidence... or rather the ABSENSE of evidence, like luggage (which was also nowhere to be found for the Penatagon and Pensylvania crashes).

Good thing you were there to make sure of all that, huh? In three places at once and all. I mean because otherwise you'd be relying on a few photos showing only tiny portions or ridiculously zoomed out views of each site to make your point, and we know 9/11 deniers would never use limited and flawed evidence to make their point.

[/sarcasm]

Also the towers HAD to drop because they had been tagged for demolition... Silverman would have had to PAY for a lengthy piece by piece demolition... instead he was PAID Billions of dollars thanks to the "terrorism". A Bush was in charge of security for the towers and had even shut down all the power; for the first time in history(security cams down too) to the towers in the weekend prior to the demolitions. There was an Israeli Moving and storage company that had moved out of one of the towers 2 weeks before the 911 demolition. They had occupied an ENTIRE floor. The Bush brother had the keys. They had opportunity, motive (PNAC's "New Pearl Harbor") and means. Dick Cheney was controlling the war games that morning, which involved airliners flying into towers. Thos war games were never called off until AFTER the "terrorists" had ruled our air space for TWO freakin hours.

Hey, this is just an internet debate. Don't bother supporting supposed "facts" with anything.

[Chaossaber314]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel Actually there are SEVERAL reasons. Most importantly, for the shock and awe. secondly for the destruction of evidence... or rather the ABSENSE of evidence, like luggage (which was also nowhere to be found for the Penatagon and Pensylvania crashes). Also the towers HAD to drop because they had been tagged for demolition... Silverman would have had to PAY for a lengthy piece by piece demolition... instead he was PAID Billions of dollars thanks to the "terrorism". A Bush was in charge of security for the towers and had even shut down all the power; for the first time in history(security cams down too) to the towers in the weekend prior to the demolitions. There was an Israeli Moving and storage company that had moved out of one of the towers 2 weeks before the 911 demolition. They had occupied an ENTIRE floor. The Bush brother had the keys. They had opportunity, motive (PNAC's "New Pearl Harbor") and means. Dick Cheney was controlling the war games that morning, which involved airliners flying into towers. Thos war games were never called off until AFTER the "terrorists" had ruled our air space for TWO freakin hours. Its late. G' nite!

...rokay... so why use the planes at all then? If you had hired Saudi Arabia to hire terrorists to fly planes into the trade towers.... I dunno, maybe just have them plant explosives instead?

The logic still falls flat under this reasoning. Once again, if there were actually terrorists flying planes on 9/11, the majority of these theories no longer work.

[thx1138]

[QUOTEThe logic still falls flat under this reasoning. Once again, if there were actually terrorists flying planes on 9/11, the majority of these theories no longer work.[/quote]


Maybe you're just not able to understand the event in any other way that what the media has served to you?

I can not reason why people are not following every lose end and looking in every nook and cranny to find out everything they can about this event.

Have people become so conditioned that they accept any and all that comes out in the name of the official story? What happened to asking questions about the world?

Some theories are bunk of course but don't lump them in with ones that should be investigated with a serious open mind.

The strong links between the Bush family and the Saudis should be taken seriously. It is fact not fiction that the Bush family and the Bin Laden family have been business parteners, that alone should set your mind a working.

[xyzer]

Hmm? Miltons straining the facts agan?

Nonsense. If anybody can be tied to the Saudis, it's George "Wiretap"

Yep Bush has to be responsible for terrorists coming into the country while he was governor of Texas? Being governor of Texas gives one an important position in world and US national affairs? Surely we jest?

Perhaps we ought to indict Milton for using Saudi pumped oil products? And perish the anti liberal thought that the ithyphallic politician and draft dodger that was president at the time all this 9/11 plotting went on, was non other than blameless Bill? Thats the guy whose wife is running for president and saying if she wins, blameless Bill will get a prominent position?

By the way Milton have you and thx never helped the profits of the Saudio regime by using their oil?

[thx1138]

Being governor of Texas gives one an important position in world and US national affairs?

No he's just a Frat boy with rich parents made Comander in Chief from kenny bunkport with a DUI. Must be nice to have an alocholic coke snorter for your leader.
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Surely we jest?

no we don't.
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ithyphallic politician and draft dodger that was president

Draft dodger you must be talking about G.W. Bush.

blameless Bill

I could give a rat's ass about Bill or Bush, I don't have anything to do your left verses right, B.S.

And talking about "straining the facts" and I will keep reminding you of this,

You had stated that Rice and Cheney had used the threat of a "Mushroom cloud" over a U.S. city in the lead up to the invasion.
Do you remember? I'm sure you do. That's what I call straining the facts.

[xyzer]

thx..you either got off the trolley at the wrong station or are engrossed in conjuring up facts? You are obviously not aware of whats going on in the real world.
You don't answer comment with counter facts. Instead you throw in non related trivia like Bush being a frat boy and getting cited for DWI? What in the heck does that have to do with foreign affairs some quarter century later?
Its an example of logic that goes something like this... When he was 10Jack threw a rock at a telephone pole so he is unfit to run for office 30 years later? Grow up and for starters consider the sources you get your information from before you throw out the cacphonous bowel sounds such as these....

Draft dodger you must be talking about G.W. Bush.

In fact he was in the reserve and a qualified military jet pilot?

You had stated that Rice and Cheney had used the threat of a "Mushroom cloud" over a U.S. city in the lead up to the invasion

Since when?..prove I stated that? What I did state was that Israel destroyed the Iraqi nuclear plant some years before the US invasion and the WMD claim as it applied to nuclear devices was moot? Except in the case of chemical and biological agents..For those slow on the uptake neither of those agents cause mushroom clouds?