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Old Feb 2, 2008, 10:26 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Aldous Huxley, author of 'Brave New World', gives his speech "The Ultimate Revolution

This is really powerful if you take the time to listen to the speech he was projecting what is happen now with terrorism and control of the masses.

Aldous Huxley speaks at Cal Berkeley,... - ! â–ºThe Info Bunkerâ—„ ! - tribe.net

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Today we are faced, I think, with the approach of what may be called the ultimate revolution, the final revolution, where man can act directly on the mind-body of his fellows. Well needless to say some kind of direct action on human mind-bodies has been going on since the beginning of time. But this has generally been of a violent nature. The Techniques of terrorism have been known from time immemorial and people have employed them with more or less ingenuity sometimes with the utmost cruelty, sometimes with a good deal of skill acquired by a process of trial and error finding out what the best ways of using torture, imprisonment, constraints of various kinds.

But, as, I think it was (sounds like Mettenicht) said many years ago, you can do everything with {garbled} except sit on them. If you are going to control any population for any length of time, you must have some measure of consent, it's exceedingly difficult to see how pure terrorism can function indefinitely. It can function for a fairly long time, but I think sooner or later you have to bring in an element of persuasion an element of getting people to consent to what is happening to them.

It seems to me that the nature of the ultimate revolution with which we are now faced is precisely this: That we are in process of developing a whole series of techniques which will enable the controlling oligarchy who have always existed and presumably will always exist to get people to love their servitude. This is the, it seems to me, the ultimate in malevolent revolutions shall we say, and this is a problem which has interested me many years and about which I wrote thirty years ago, a fable, Brave New World, which is an account of society making use of all the devices available and some of the devices which I imagined to be possible making use of them in order to, first of all, to standardize the population, to iron out inconvenient human differences, to create, to say, mass produced models of human beings arranged in some sort of scientific caste system. Since then, I have continued to be extremely interested in this problem and I have noticed with increasing dismay a number of the predictions which were purely fantastic when I made them thirty years ago have come true or seem in process of coming true.
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Old Feb 3, 2008, 12:58 am   #2 (permalink)
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Pavlovian methods

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In this context I would like to mention the extremely interesting chapters in Dr. William (sounds like Sergeant's) Battle for the Mind where he points out how intuitively some of the great religious teachers/leaders of the past hit on the Pavlovian method, he speaks specifically of Wesley's method of producing conversions which were essentially based on the technique of heightening psychological stress to the limit by talking about hellfire and so making people extremely vulnerable to suggestion and then suddenly releasing this stress by offering hopes of heaven and this is a very interesting chapter of showing

how completely on purely intuitive and empirical grounds a skilled natural psychologist, as Wesley was, could discover these Pavlovian methods.

Well, as I say, we now know the reason why these techniques worked and there's no

doubt at all that we can if we wanted to, carry them much further than was possible in the past. And of course in the history of, recent history of brainwashing, both as applied to prisoners of war and to the lower personnel within the communist party in China, we see that the Pavlovian methods have been applied systematically and with evidently with extraordinary efficacy. I think there can be no doubt that by the application of these methods a very large army of totally devoted people has been created. The conditioning has been driven in, so to say, by a kind of psychological iontophoresis into the very depths of the people's being, and has got so deep that it's very difficult to ever be rooted
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Old Feb 3, 2008, 01:52 am   #3 (permalink)
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But the fact remains that this differential of suggestibility this susceptibility to hypnosis I do think is something which has to be considered very carefully in relation to any kind of thought about democratic government. If there are 20% of the people who really can be suggested into believing almost anything, then we have to take extremely careful steps into prevent the rise of demagogues who will drive them on into extreme positions then organize them into very, very dangerous armies, private armies which may overthrow the government.

This is, I say, in this field of pure persuasion, I think we do know much more than we did in the past, and obviously we now have mechanisms for multiplying the demagogues voice and image in a quite hallucinatory way, I mean, the TV and radio, Hitler was making enormous use of the radio, he could speak to millions of people simultaneously. This alone creates an enormous gulf between the modern and the ancient demagogue. The ancient demagogue could only appeal to as many people as his voice could reach by yelling at his utmost, but the modern demagogue could touch literally millions at a time, and of course by the multiplication of his image he can produce this kind of hallucinatory effect which is of enormous hypnotic and suggestive importance
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Old Feb 3, 2008, 03:30 am   #4 (permalink)
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This is, I say, in this field of pure persuasion, I think we do know much more than we did in the past, and obviously we now have mechanisms for multiplying the demagogues voice and image in a quite hallucinatory way, I mean, the TV and radio, Hitler was making enormous use of the radio, he could speak to millions of people simultaneously. This alone creates an enormous gulf between the modern and the ancient demagogue. The ancient demagogue could only appeal to as many people as his voice could reach by yelling at his utmost, but the modern demagogue could touch literally millions at a time, and of course by the multiplication of his image he can produce this kind of hallucinatory effect which is of enormous hypnotic and suggestive importance.
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Old Feb 5, 2008, 04:08 am   #5 (permalink)
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Has anyone had the chance to listen to this speech, I would like to hear any feedback would be nice.
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Old Feb 5, 2008, 09:46 am   #6 (permalink)
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I'm on it (if it loads up).

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entrails of the last priest.” -Dennis Diderot
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Old Feb 5, 2008, 10:11 am   #7 (permalink)
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I'm on it (if it loads up).

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I find it amazing that Huxley along with Orwell (1984) and the men that follow, stated clearly what is happen now, that foresight still misses so many people today, many have no idea how old this push to world government is or how powerful.

H.G. Wells
New World Order by H. G. Wells proposes a collectivist one-world state"' or "new world order" comprised of "socialist democracies." He advocates "universal conscription for service" and declares that "nationalist individualism...is the world's disease." He continues:

"The manifest necessity for some collective world control to eliminate warfare and the less generally admitted necessity for a collective control of the economic and biological life of mankind, are aspects of one and the same process." He proposes that this be accomplished through "universal law" and propaganda (or education)."

The Open Conspiracy: Blue Prints for a World Revolution by H.G. Wells is published. A former Fabian Socialist, Wells writes:

"The political world of the into a Open Conspiracy must weaken, efface, incorporate and supersede existing governments... The Open Conspiracy is the natural inheritor of socialist and communist enthusiasms; it may be in control of Moscow before it is in control of New York... The character of the Open Conspiracy will now be plainly displayed... It will be a world religion."



Carroll Quigley Carroll Quigley, TRAGEDY AND HOPE,

Colonel Edward M. House
close advisor of President Woodrow Wilson, publishes Phillip Dru: Administrator in which he promotes "socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx."
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Old Feb 5, 2008, 10:33 am   #8 (permalink)
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I find it amazing that Huxley along with Orwell (1984)
and the men that follow, stated clearly what is happen
now, that foresight still misses so many people today, many
have no idea how old this push to world government
is or how powerful.

H.G. Wells New World Order by H. G. Wells
proposes a collectivist one-world state"' or "new world order"
comprised of "socialist democracies."
Unfortunately, the speech didn't load (I blame the computer I'm using). Anyway, I consider orwell to basically be a Libertarian Socialist. He was responsible for a quote I've been thinking about
lately: "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- for ever."
unfortunately, it's such an apt description of the status quo. To me, it almost seems like states are competing to bring us to that level, and getting enough to applaud along the way.
The anarchist Bakunin had a similar quote regarding the Soviet Union. I'm paraphrasing, but he claimed the Soviets would merely "beat the people with the people's stick."

Still, I doubt this can be established without a direct military confrontation -- especially when confrontation is so deeply rooted in this tradition.

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Old Feb 7, 2008, 01:22 am   #9 (permalink)
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Old Feb 7, 2008, 06:17 am   #10 (permalink)
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But, as, I think it was (sounds like Mettenicht) said many years ago, you can do everything with {garbled} except sit on them.
I think the missing quotation might have been Thomas Hardy:

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I think the missing quotation might have been Thomas Hardy:
Yes I believe you're right.
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Old Feb 11, 2008, 01:53 am   #12 (permalink)
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The Ultimate Revolution

The Aldous Huxley, H.G. Wells, New World Order, connection is key! Check out, "A Crisis in American Leadership (Part Four)" posted to the internet in the middle of last month. Aldous' grandfather was T.H. Huxley and known as both, 'Darwin's bulldog' and the 'father of agnosticism'.

Julian Huxley was Aldous' brother and co-authored a series of popular science books with H.G. Wells, who had been a student of his grandfather’s at the Normal School of Science. While Brave New World (1931?) is probably Aldous’ best know work, I first learned about him as author of the "Perennial Philosophy".
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The Aldous Huxley, H.G. Wells, New World Order, connection is key! Check out, "A Crisis in American Leadership (Part Four)" posted to the internet in the middle of last month. Aldous' grandfather was T.H. Huxley and known as both, 'Darwin's bulldog' and the 'father of agnosticism'.

Julian Huxley was Aldous' brother and co-authored a series of popular science books with H.G. Wells, who had been a student of his grandfather’s at the Normal School of Science. While Brave New World (1931?) is probably Aldous’ best know work, I first learned about him as author of the "Perennial Philosophy".
Thanks for the information, I will reseach it further.

I'm glad some people are reading the posts, these are thing I find important and I'm trying to point them out to some of the more brainwashed among this group.

This is a link to "A Crisis in American Leadership...
A Crisis in American Leadership (Part Four)
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