Muslim fundamentalists prefer lefitists

[shrike]

AL-QAEDA-linked insurgency groups are cheering Australian troop casualties and mocking the Federal Government for “fleeing like a cornered mouse” from Iraq. The claims are made in Arabic on secretive web networks bonded by a hatred of the West and filled with images and video clips from warzones that terror experts say are becoming more effective than Kalashnikovs in the modern jihad. A special investigation by NEWS.com.au infiltrating these global networks has identified jihadi references to the “embarrassing collapse” of the Howard government and cites Prime Minister Kevin Rudd’s Iraq withdrawal as a “victory”.

'We shot down crusader Howard', says al-Qaeda | NEWS.com.au
Muslim fundamentalists prefer lefitists.Why?

[ruksak]

Quote by: shrike 'We shot down crusader Howard', says al-Qaeda | NEWS.com.au Muslim fundamentalists prefer lefitists.Why?

I'm not sure how you made that deduction? Extremists just want to kill. They mock the Aussies for leaving, while they mock the Americans for staying.

What do you mean "they prefer leftists"? In what way?

[shrike]

Quote by: ruskak I'm not sure how you made that deduction? Extremists just want to kill. They mock the Aussies for leaving, while they mock the Americans for staying

Care to show me where they mock Americans for staying?

[GHook93]

Quote by: ruksak I'm not sure how you made that deduction? Extremists just want to kill. They mock the Aussies for leaving, while they mock the Americans for staying. What do you mean "they prefer leftists"? In what way?

They definitely prefer leftist. The far left believes that all we need to do is give in to the Islamist and they will leave us alone. The right believe that all we need to do is kill the Islamist and they will leave us alone.

Why wouldn't they prefer the left?

But I also agree with ruksak, how did you make that deduction from this article?

[ruksak]

Quote by: shrike Care to show me where they mock Americans for staying?

“Today we see the withdrawal of another Christian ally leaving the Americans drowning alone in this swamp,” the statement says in Arabic.

Seems a bit antagonistic.

[Domino]

It's propaganda: they'll find a way to mock anything their opponents do. The good news is, they only talk amongst themselves, in secretive places that only reach those who've already made up their mind... as long as some large media outlet doesn't decide that their propaganda is newsworthy, to be give global coverage.

[ruksak]

Quote by: GHook93 They definitely prefer leftist. The far left believes that all we need to do is give in to the Islamist and they will leave us alone. The right believe that all we need to do is kill the Islamist and they will leave us alone. Why wouldn't they prefer the left? But I also agree with ruksak, how did you make that deduction from this article?

Exactly. I agree with the sentiment. But I didn't extrapolate anything of this nature from the article posted.

[Dunfunkin']

It may be that 'leftists' seem less inclined to use armed force to combat terrorism than their conservative counterparts. If you take the Spanish general election of 2004 as an example, when pro-Iraq war incumbent Prime Minister José María Aznar had seemed set for re-election right up until it became apparent that islamist extremists rather than ETA were responsible for the Madrid train bombings on Mar 11. Instead, Rodríguez Zapatero, who throughout the campaign had promised to withdraw Spanish troops, was able to form a minority government. Al Qaeda made considerable political capital out of these events at the time.

Although the continued presence of Aussie troops does not seem to have been the main reason for Prime Minister Howard's demise at the hands of his Labour rival Kevin Rudd, who has expressed an inclination to withdraw troops, Al Qaeda have again capitalised on this. Al Qaeda are very adept at the propaganda game, but since change is one of the inevitabilies of any democracy, leveraging such outcomes is a tool they will always have at their disposal.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Dunfunkin' It may be that 'leftists' seem less inclined to use armed force to combat terrorism than their conservative counterparts. If you take the Spanish general election of 2004 as an example, when pro-Iraq war incumbent Prime Minister José María Aznar had seemed set for re-election right up until it became apparent that islamist extremists rather than ETA were responsible for the Madrid train bombings on Mar 11.

I suppose a "Leftist" is one who questions, for example, both the morality and legality of NATO's use
of force. Still, this general attitude doesn't mean "Muslim fundamentalists" prefer "the Left" (whatever that means).
Of course, it's hard to engage in this discussion reasonably with people who assume criticizing Israel means supporting Palestinian extremists.

It should also be noted that, whether or not al Qaida was responsible for the madrid bombings, the government was actually responding to its citiizens by changing its foregn policy.

Grandpa h.

[ruksak]

Quote by: Grandpa It should also be noted that, whether or not al Qaida was responsible for the madrid bombings, the government was actually responding to its citiizens by changing its foregn policy.

I think it's time to stop trying to disseminate between terror groups. It doesn't matter if it was Al Qaeda or the Terror Scouts of Islam. It's all the same ideology and this ideology needs to be killed.

Still, this general attitude doesn't mean "Muslim fundamentalists" prefer "the Left" (whatever that means).

I have to agree (They don't prefer the left). They don't care, left or right, they want to kill every white person, Jew or Christian on the planet. And no matter what a nations foreign policies are, they will find some reason to Jihad against them.

[shrike]

Quote by: ruskak have to agree (They don't prefer the left). They don't care, left or right, they want to kill every white person, Jew or Christian on the planet. And no matter what a nations foreign policies are, they will find some reason to Jihad against them.

Yes it’s true of course but who they like to see as the government of their enemies the left or the right? I think Dunfunkin' explained it pretty good

[ruksak]

Quote by: shrike Yes it’s true of course but who they like to see as the government of their enemies the left or the right? I think Dunfunkin' explained it pretty good

Oh I agree for the most part. Pacifists make their mouths water. I often think that they secretly admire George Bush because of they way he toppled Afghanistan and Iraq with such a ballsy disposition..

[Zeebadee]

Quote by: GHook93 The far left believes that all we need to do is give in to the Islamist and they will leave us alone. The right believe that all we need to do is kill the Islamist and they will leave us alone.

And the ignorant continue to claim that we only have the choice of one extreme or the other.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Zeebadee And the ignorant continue to claim that we only have the choice of one extreme or the other.

Rather I was stating the rationale why they prefer the left! Who do you think the Islamist are pray wins, Clinton/Obama (the left) or McCain/Romney (the right)? You know its Clinton/Obama!

[Domino]

I can't imagine why you think so. I imagine they want anyone but Obama, because everyone else will keep the war going longer. Do you really think these wars aren't exactly what they want? It's the best recruitment tool they've ever had.

[grandpa]

Quote by: ruksak I think it's time to stop trying to disseminate between terror groups. It doesn't matter if it was Al Qaeda or the Terror Scouts of Islam. It's all the same ideology and this ideology needs to be killed.

I agree, provided you include relatively secular, "Western" states in this effort. Saddam was not building palaces alone.

Quote by: ruksak I have to agree (They don't prefer the left). They don't care, left or right, they want to kill every white person, Jew or Christian on the planet. And no matter what a nations foreign policies are, they will find some reason to Jihad against them.

It's not an "anti-white" thing. It's both a religious and political thing, as most debates on the subject will indicate.

Grandpa h.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Domino I can't imagine why you think so. I imagine they want anyone but Obama, because everyone else will keep the war going longer.

It's going to be a long, difficult road ahead no matter who wins.

Grandpa h.