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Old Jan 21, 2008, 10:14 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Ron Paul is 2nd In Nevada Primary

Ron Paul took Silver in the Silver State. I didn't know anything about this, the MSM has kept silent yet again. Paul beat Thompson, Guliani, Huckabee, and McCain, yet we hear nothing from the MSM.

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Old Jan 22, 2008, 01:20 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, in this particular instance, first place seems to be the only position that is noteworthy.


I hope during the revolt, people remember to shoot the journalists first, because none of this would be possible without those backstabbing yesmen.
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Old Jan 22, 2008, 01:27 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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The difference is substantial too; Ron Paul's 14% to Romney's 51%. With the Democrats Hillary prevailed with 51%, but Obama wasn't that far back with 45%


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Old Jan 22, 2008, 03:57 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Ron Paul took Silver in the Silver State. I didn't know anything about this, the MSM has kept silent yet again. Paul beat Thompson, Guliani, Huckabee, and McCain, yet we hear nothing from the MSM.
Huh? The MSM covered Paul's enemic second place finish. What they didn't do is genuflect at getting 14% in a state where Paul bought media ads, unlike his opponents. [And Paul won the Nevada straw poll back in October only to lose in January!] Again, Paul's huge campaign warchest delivered his message and the voters said no. Here are three MSM stories I found during a 20 second Google search :

AP: Ron Paul says he's happy to finish second in Nevada | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

CNN: CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Paul contends for second place in Nevada GOP caucuses « - Blogs from CNN.com

Newsweek: Paul happy with 2nd in Nevada | Newsweek Politics | Newsweek.com

October Straw Poll in Nevada: Romney loses NV straw poll - First Read - msnbc.comNevada Results


Face it, Paul fans, your boy hasn't caught fire. Four percent in South Carolina?!!! Big loss in libertarian New Hampshire?!!! Meager returns in volunteer-important Iowa and Nevada caucuses?!!! When will you start blaming Paul's money rich campaign for some of this failure?
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Old Jan 22, 2008, 07:37 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Ron Paul is 2nd in Nevada Primary
Actually it's a convention, but I'm just being an ass...

Congratulations. Ron Paul almost won the lowest number of delegates possible above 0 where no one really campaigned.
Ron Paul does not seem like he's going to come close to winning, but you never know...


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Old Jan 24, 2008, 01:35 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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The only viable presidential candidates will be McCain, maybe Giuliani and either Obama or Hillary. Ron Paul is just more insignificant than the others I haven't mentioned.


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Old Jan 24, 2008, 03:09 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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The only viable presidential candidates will be McCain, maybe Giuliani and either Obama or Hillary. Ron Paul is just more insignificant than the others I haven't mentioned.

So it is with the mainstream media, so it is with the sheeple.


Oh well, at least the vast majority will get what they deserve.
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Old Jan 24, 2008, 04:40 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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So it is with the mainstream media, so it is with the sheeple.


Oh well, at least the vast majority will get what they deserve.
That's a little harsh. It's more like ignoring the points from the East Germain judge for ice skating. (considering Ron Paul is doing poorly in the poles)


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Old Jan 24, 2008, 11:26 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Good for him. With all the money he raised it would be simply pathetic not to see him do reasonably well in some states.

I don't support his candidacy but I always enjoy underdog stories.


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Old Jan 24, 2008, 11:37 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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The only viable presidential candidates will be McCain, maybe Giuliani and either Obama or Hillary. Ron Paul is just more insignificant than the others I haven't mentioned.
Have you seen Giuliani's numbers in the primaries/caucuses thus far?

Romney is quite viable, as are McCain, Obama, Clinton, Edwards, and Huckabee. Though viability may not be particularly relevant if the Republican establishment decides to buck the will of its party members and push Giuliani through to nomination.


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Old Jan 24, 2008, 04:02 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Have you seen Giuliani's numbers in the primaries/caucuses thus
far?
Romney is quite viable, as are McCain, Obama, Clinton, Edwards,
and Huckabee.
Now that you've presented a list, have any candidates chosen anyone for VP?

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Old Jan 24, 2008, 04:53 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Now that you've presented a list, have any candidates chosen anyone for VP?

After the recount in New Hampshire, I'm thinking RP would probably choose Kucinich, not that it matters. However he is the only candidate I could even hazard a guess about.
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Old Jan 24, 2008, 10:09 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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After the recount in New Hampshire, I'm thinking RP would probably choose Kucinich, not that it matters. However he is the only candidate I could even hazard a guess about.
What recount in New Hampshire are you talking about?

And RP would pick Kucinich for VP? Kucinich supports big government solutions right down the line--on health care, education, the environment, taxation. I can't think of two more different candidates, philosophically, than Dr. No and Dennis Kucinich.
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Old Jan 25, 2008, 02:46 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Romney and Huckabee are too religious, I like Edwards but his issue is the poor and these aren't a majority.

Though even Ron Paul has done better than Giulianni, the New Yorker has a different strategy which intentionally foresook New Hampshire and Iowa investing heavily in Florida. If his strategy pays off we ought to see Giulianni beat McCain big time in this state to confirm his viability and cunning strategy. The other Republicans are all averaging better than Giulianni, but distant 2nds to McCain, if Giulianni trounces McCain, he's beating the others too.

By 'Supertuesday' there will be just 4 real contenders (two for each party), my guess is McCain, Giulianni, Obama and Hillary.

The only uncertainty is Giulianni. He must beat McCain by a substantial margin in Florida. If he beats McCain just by a close margin, Huckabee and Ron Paul will remain in play. If he comes in second closely behid McCain, Romney may still be in the game. Unless Giulianni comes up with just 12-14% in Florida, the other Republicans (except McCain) will become too marginal.


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Old Jan 25, 2008, 11:46 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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What recount in New Hampshire are you talking about?

And RP would pick Kucinich for VP? Kucinich supports big government solutions right down the line--on health care, education, the environment, taxation. I can't think of two more different candidates, philosophically, than Dr. No and Dennis Kucinich.
Because conspiracy nuts around here really believe the majority of voters pick Ron Paul. it's just the shadow government controlled media and political system that lies about the polling results.

Back on topic sounds like Giulianni isn't even doing that well in FL. I think most folks in FL can watch the tube and see his lack of commitment to anywhere else. I would at least hope most folks are capable of seeing him for nothing more than a shallow predator just using their state as his little sleeve trick.


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Old Jan 25, 2008, 01:02 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Now that you've presented a list, have any candidates chosen anyone for VP?

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No, and don't expect them to. The VP candidate isn't normally chosen until the party nominates its Presidential candidate. Keep in mind that all this primary nonsense is only to help determine which of these people the Democrats and Republicans are going to put forth as their respective nominees.


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Old Jan 25, 2008, 08:52 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Though even Ron Paul has done better than Giulianni, the New Yorker has a different strategy which intentionally foresook New Hampshire and Iowa investing heavily in Florida. If his strategy pays off we ought to see Giulianni beat McCain big time in this state to confirm his viability and cunning strategy. The other Republicans are all averaging better than Giulianni, but distant 2nds to McCain, if Giulianni trounces McCain, he's beating the others too.
Huh? Could you please offer a single poll--just one--that has Romney behind or even near Giuliani in Florida? Where do you get your information that Giuliani can win Florida today?
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Because conspiracy nuts around here really believe the majority of voters pick Ron Paul. it's just the shadow government controlled media and political system that lies about the polling results.
I've heard all the conspiracy blather for the past year. But I haven't heard about any vote recount in New Hampshire. Even RP accepted his thumping in New Hampshire, or so I thought. I just can't keep up with all the new conspiracy theories--I'm out of the looney loop these days.

But Kucinich as RP's VP takes the prize for the odd couple of the decade.
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Old Jan 26, 2008, 12:47 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Ron Paul took Silver in the Silver State. I didn't know anything about this, the MSM has kept silent yet again. Paul beat Thompson, Guliani, Huckabee, and McCain, yet we hear nothing from the MSM.

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Romney won 51% of the votes. McCain was right behind Ron Paul, yet Ron Paul did much more advertising, Huck ad McCain concentrated entirely on SC. Also being Guiliani is nothing special. Man has that guy sunk. His strategy has blow up in his face.
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