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Old Jan 24, 2008, 12:15 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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What I mean by this is the US controls over sixty percent of Canadian oil... and that number continues to grow every year.
What exactly do you mean by "the US controls over sixty percent of Canadian oil"? How do we "control" Canada's oil?


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Old Jan 24, 2008, 03:06 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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Canada should just go ahead and send a delegation to the American Congress and ask to become part of the United States and get it over with. There is no significant difference culturally or historically between the United States and Canada. You have baseball and hockey teams that are part of American leagues. The only thing separating you from us is a geopolitical definition and that can easily be erased.


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Old Jan 24, 2008, 03:39 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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I've been having all sorts of scary revelations lately. Some I have taken seriously, others I just laughed off because I went a little far. One that has haunted me the last couple of days is the fact that Canada is just as significant as Iraq in the eyes of the USA.

What I mean by this is the US controls over sixty percent of Canadian oil... and that number continues to grow every year.

What would happen if, as Canadians, we decided to gain that control back. What if we wanted to better prepare our selves for the future by saving our resources?


I'll give you a hint, look at Iraq. The USA now controls a huge portion of their oil... how did they get that? Let's just say a World Might Destruct if excuses are made to... make your way the only way.


If we cut off our supply to the states TODAY, we would face economic setbacks, but we would do alright. Would we see US troops TOMORROW?

If you put a lot of thought into this, it is really not that far-fetched. As long as Canada complies to the US, through selling our very country to them, a war is just a dream. If the Canadian government begins to stand up for itself and take back what it has sold out, it becomes a reality.
We would never invade Canada it would make your Head Of State and Sovereign mad and we are friends with the Queen and the UK
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Old Jan 24, 2008, 05:08 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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Maybe not tomorrow, but soon enough. (To imagine this, you have to imagine a government not headed by lapdog-in-chief Stephen Harper.)

But as soon as the reality in the Middle East penetrates the majority of American skulls (could take a while) and as soon as the oil price goes above a certain level, there they'd be.

And they would have cooked up Imperative Grounds involving "the war on terrism" and "protecting are Freedom".

As plausible as that scenario sounds to some people, I just don't see that happening.


Canada has already been infiltrated technologically, and philosophically, plus they have many agreements with the US from their NATO alliance. So Canada will likely always be tied to the US militarly, because face it, if they want to play with the fancy radar facilities, they have to go along with the commands that govern what's going on at Cheyenne Mountain, or they'll be cut off.


I believe Canada literally cut their own throats in this regard, but then, so does everybody that enters into treaties with these sociopaths.
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Old Jan 24, 2008, 05:10 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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What exactly do you mean by "the US controls over sixty percent of Canadian oil"? How do we "control" Canada's oil?

I believe by investment. There are literally American companies up there working side by side with the Canadians.
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Old Jan 26, 2008, 06:08 am   #26 (permalink) (top)
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Oil is the property of the owner.
Big deal. That's why governments exist, to set public policy and edge us out of the jungle a little.

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As to whether the US would invade, it is unlikely. That supply could be gained elsewhere.
That's what they said about Iraq.


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Old Jan 26, 2008, 06:11 am   #27 (permalink) (top)
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Canada should just go ahead and send a delegation to the American Congress and ask to become part of the United States and get it over with. There is no significant difference culturally or historically between the United States and Canada. You have baseball and hockey teams that are part of American leagues. The only thing separating you from us is a geopolitical definition and that can easily be erased.
Are you serious? The US is a country badly on the skids. I doubt even Albertans would want to join these days.

Here's an idea: Why don't y'all send a deputation to the Canadian parliament and ask to join Canada? Get it over with.


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Old Jan 29, 2008, 02:32 am   #28 (permalink) (top)
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Mr adams.
while I agree with your content in principle, I retain what I consider to be a health distrust of american politicians.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they have lied,cheated and stolen everything they could since the second world war and perhaps, prior.
American imperialism and greed is not a well kept secret despite the billions spent to try to make it so.

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Old Jan 29, 2008, 02:45 am   #29 (permalink) (top)
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You have found a soft spot,if I am compelled to become an american and be justifiably despised by the rest of the planet, please bring on the invasion.
I will vow to remove at least one invader from my soil everyday to the end of my days and train all like minds to do the same.
let us avoid the absurd for many more generations.

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Old Jan 29, 2008, 09:20 am   #30 (permalink) (top)
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It might say a little paranoid, but hardly crazy. See the left conspiracy of a the North American Union!

Just don't bomb the Baldwin brothers and you should be fine!

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Old Jan 29, 2008, 10:55 am   #31 (permalink) (top)
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See the left conspiracy of a the North American Union!
Oh Christ, another conspiracy theorist!

Hook, what's "left" about it? I defy you to explain this.


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Old Jan 29, 2008, 11:26 am   #32 (permalink) (top)
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Are you serious? The US is a country badly on the skids. I doubt even Albertans would want to join these days.

Here's an idea: Why don't y'all send a deputation to the Canadian parliament and ask to join Canada? Get it over with.
Because apparently Canada is not really an independent nation: it is still subject to England's monarchy.


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Old Jan 29, 2008, 11:29 am   #33 (permalink) (top)
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Oh Christ, another conspiracy theorist!

Hook, what's "left" about it? I defy you to explain this.
The left believes the neo-cons want one unifed country of North America. I believe there are some legs to it, but its not plausible at this time. Maybe 150 years ago it was.
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Old Jan 29, 2008, 12:34 pm   #34 (permalink) (top)
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Hook, that isn't an answer to my question. It states what you imagine to be a belief of what you like to call the "left" -- i.e. so much hot air.

Kindly answer my question.


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Old Jan 29, 2008, 12:38 pm   #35 (permalink) (top)
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Apparently Canada is not really an independent nation: it is still subject to England's monarchy.
This may be "apparent" to you, Chance, but jeez...

Yeah, the Queen is Canada's head of state. Your point would be?

The Queen has real influence in Canada to the same extent as the dignitary who throws out the first ball at the World Series is the starting pitcher.

Get serious.


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Old Jan 29, 2008, 12:50 pm   #36 (permalink) (top)
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This may be "apparent" to you, Chance, but jeez...

Yeah, the Queen is Canada's head of state. Your point would be?

The Queen has real influence in Canada to the same extent as the dignitary who throws out the first ball at the World Series is the starting pitcher.

Get serious.
It has nothing to do with influence, it has to do with the fact that the monarch in England is the head of the Canadian State and, therefore, Canada is not an independent nation.


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Old Jan 29, 2008, 01:05 pm   #37 (permalink) (top)
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But that's bullshit. Just give us a few wee examples of Canada's "dependence". C'mon, Chance, illustrate to us how Canada is less independent than any other country you can name.

We're waiting.


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Old Jan 29, 2008, 02:09 pm   #38 (permalink) (top)
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But that's bullshit. Just give us a few wee examples of Canada's "dependence". C'mon, Chance, illustrate to us how Canada is less independent than any other country you can name.

We're waiting.
The Queen of ENGLAND is the head of your country.

Enough said.


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Enough said.
Enough for someone with two-dimensional reasoning.


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Old Jan 29, 2008, 07:12 pm   #40 (permalink) (top)
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The Queen of ENGLAND is the head of your country.

Enough said.
Its just a name.

I duno about Canadas situation, but it seems like its exactly the same as Australias situation. If so then:

The queen has zero influence, and we can vote to seperate from the empire at any time with no resistance.
We'r there by choice.
Besides, its like having an Aliance.
We're part of the commonwealth, that means that whenever we're in trouble we will have allies. Whats the point in seperating just so we can call ourselves completely independent?
Its just stupid pride.

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Canada should just go ahead and send a delegation to the American Congress and ask to become part of the United States and get it over with. There is no significant difference culturally or historically between the United States and Canada. You have baseball and hockey teams that are part of American leagues. The only thing separating you from us is a geopolitical definition and that can easily be erased.
You'd be better off joining Canada.
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