Register (it's free)
Volconvo Debate Forums
Advertise Here »
Browse ad-free by donating
The Debate Forums Blogs | Donate Register (it's free) Chatroom Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read  
  Volconvo / Debate Forums / Politics & Government


This topic in Politics & Government is about Bill Clinton "every bit as black" as Barack Obama.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Jan 18, 2008, 08:57 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
Chancellor
It's my first name!
 
Chancellor's Avatar
 
Location: Buffalo, New York, USA
Posts: 3,523
Bill Clinton "every bit as black" as Barack Obama

Blacks split on Clinton vs. Obama - The New York Times - MSNBC.com

Now it's really getting deep! It's definitely time to break out the hip-waders!

"Another prominent Clinton supporter from the civil rights era, Andrew Young, also defended Mrs. Clinton. “Hillary Clinton, first of all, has Bill behind her,” Mr. Young said on a recent Webcast devoted to African-American issues. 'And Bill is every bit as black as Barack.'"

Those who may be familiar with Andy Young, he was not only part of the civil rights movement, he was the first black guy to be the American ambassador to the United Nations, he was a congresscritter, and he was mayor of Atlanta, Georgia. So, what happened that all of a sudden he's displayed a clear case of having a few scews loose? Or, is there some deep dark (as in black) secret in Bill Clinton's past (like maybe an ancestor that was a slave)?

If Bill does have a black ancestor somewhere in his past, it still doesn't make him "every bit as black as Barack" since Barack's father, who is very definitely black, was from Africa - a genuine African immigrant to the United States.

Or is dear old Andy saying that being black isn't about skin color but about something else: being a womanizing adulterer perhaps (as Bill was) or being on the politically correct side of "black issues" (as Bill and most Demoncrats claim to be - yet no other white Demoncrat is being called black; so, that can't be it).

Andy Young's surreal statement reminds me of what some blacks here in Buffalo said about Obama, that "he isn't one of us" - yet they're champing at the bit to vote for Hillary, who is even less one of "them."


"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." -John Quincy Adams -
Chancellor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 18, 2008, 09:35 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
Stizzles
Molten Ash
 
Posts: 62
How can anyone in their right ming think "black"ness has anything to do with being a good President?

The fact that we're even considering the question would make Dr. King turn in his grave.


The dead shall rise and consume the living.

You know who you are.
Stizzles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 18, 2008, 09:42 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
Chancellor
It's my first name!
 
Chancellor's Avatar
 
Location: Buffalo, New York, USA
Posts: 3,523
Quote:
Quote by: Stizzles View Post
How can anyone in their right ming think "black"ness has anything to do with being a good President?

The fact that we're even considering the question would make Dr. King turn in his grave.
I agree but apparently there are a lot of people (many of them black) who think it's important - depending, of course, on how they're defining "black."

The fact of the matter is that there is this very large, very vocal group of blacks that do not want to assimilate and become just "Americans." They are going to continue to insist on holding themselves out to be a separate people - and play the racism/eternal victimhood cards that paternalistic white liberals taught them to play. Barack Obama doesn't represent the picture of blacks that must be kept to the forefront in order for the black community to continue to force whites to continue to feel guilty for America's racist past.

And how the hell is Bill Clinton "every bit as black" as Barack Obama?


"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." -John Quincy Adams -
Chancellor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 18, 2008, 09:55 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
Stizzles
Molten Ash
 
Posts: 62
Quote:
I agree but apparently there are a lot of people (many of them black) who think it's important - depending, of course, on how they're defining "black."
Oh, didn't you know? They get to be racist--slaveryracismwhiteoppression, don't ya know.

Quote:
The fact of the matter is that there is this very large, very vocal group of blacks that do not want to assimilate and become just "Americans." They are going to continue to insist on holding themselves out to be a separate people - and play the racism/eternal victimhood cards that paternalistic white liberals taught them to play. Barack Obama doesn't represent the picture of blacks that must be kept to the forefront in order for the black community to continue to force whites to continue to feel guilty for America's racist past.

And how the hell is Bill Clinton "every bit as black" as Barack Obama?
Um...he plays the sax? Dunno.


The dead shall rise and consume the living.

You know who you are.
Stizzles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 18, 2008, 10:40 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
Chaossaber314
The Cake is a lie...
 
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,364
Quote:
Quote by: Stizzles View Post
Oh, didn't you know? They get to be racist--slaveryracismwhiteoppression, don't ya know.



Um...he plays the sax? Dunno.
Damn, I still play the sax. Does that make me black too?

But seriously, this just goes to show that this is all about name recognition. Why? Even if Bill Clinton was blacker than Barrack Obama, Bill Clinton isn't running for President.


What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

Last edited by Chaossaber314; Jan 18, 2008 at 05:03 pm.
Chaossaber314 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:16 pm.

Sponsors (become a sponsor)
Online Gambling, KFUPM ePrints, Double Glazing UK, Free Online Games, xango, UK Car Insurance, Beauty Salon, Beauty Salons, Coach Handbags, Miele Vacuums, Plus Size Bras, Horses for Sale, Ventrilo Server, liquid vitamins, weight loss, Smiley Central, Monetise your website, Ventrilo Server, Dyson Vacuums, Hydroponics & Grow Lights, Offshore banking, beauty salons, Offshore banking, Connecticut Electric Rate, Retail Electric Providers Cirro Energy, LasVegas Vacations, Web Design, homes in hudson, Affordable Web Hosting, Texas Electric Rate Cirro Energy, Security Audit, Guy Factor, Gun Forums, Cheap Car Insurance Loan Wills Mortgage Calculator Finance
Powered by vBulletin Version 3.7.3 Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0

© 2003–2008 Volconvo.com

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10