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Old Jan 12, 2008, 12:54 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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How FOX is silencing Ron Paul...

Here is the original "FOX - You Decide - 2008" debate that ran last night on fox:

YouTube - Ron Paul at the South Carolina Debate 1-10-08

Now, all re-runs of that debate have all of Ron Paul's Q&A's cut out completely, as if he was never there.

Also, go to the Hannity and Colmes website that shows all the Candidates and their transcripts from the debate, and Ron Paul is not there.

Here is the page:

Sean Hannity | Alan Colmes | Hannity & Colmes - FOXNews.com

Ron Paul was voted the best Candidate on FOX's poll at 32%, and now they erase him from the event all together?? Why would you silence someone? Because they threaten what you are promoting - and Ron Paul promotes freedom. What is FOX promoting?


If Ron Paul doesn't win, I fear for the future of North America.

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Everyone should watch that debate, Ron Paul mopped up.


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Old Jan 12, 2008, 03:39 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Ron Paul is not exposed enough, which is somewhat of a problem for his campaign. He seems too radical for main stream politics. Yet during a debate (i forget exactly which one it was, i believe one of the early republican debates) he was the only candidate with the stones to say that the americas foreign policy was primarily responsible for 9/11. to middle america its an enormous problem that they do not fully understand.
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Old Jan 12, 2008, 04:14 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Ron Paul is not exposed enough, which is somewhat of
a problem for his campaign.
He seems too radical for main stream politics.
Actually, his campaign has been reasonably successful. His presidency is probably not going to happen, though. He has too many enemies (ultimately including me).

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Old Jan 12, 2008, 05:11 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I have to agree!

Fox has been unfair and unbalanced towards RP. Regardless of their disagreements with him their job it to report the news and not mold it. They always are holier than now about the leftist media being biased, but this was very hypocritical.

(1) First they cut him out of the NH debate.
(2) The commentator took a cheap shot at him during the his Iran speed boat confrontation
(3) He was the only candidate in the debate that H & C didn't interview after the debate.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 12:53 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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It is clear that Ron Paul does not have the "current" traditional Republican view point that is seemingly the standard for Fox.

It is truly a tragedy of American Democracy when one with good ideas...although I don't support all of them and will not be voting for Ron Paul...is not allowed to fully participate in a way that might provide different perspectives to help the US become a better place.

Now I do believe that a lot of his ideas are off the wall...but I do think that there is a place for his voice in America. Fox, taking this time out to silence his voice is in effect and in my opinion a very un-American thing to do.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 02:13 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Fox excluded Duncan Hunter in NH too.

On the other hand, Paul and Hunter have made numerous debate appearances across the nation. They have gotten their messages out on TV, radio, in print, and on the Internet. The result? Failing campaigns.

Blaming media bias is getting old. Bill Richardson, to his credit, took personal responsibility for his failed campaign. When will the Paulistas follow suit? Man up, people.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 02:47 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Fox excluded Duncan Hunter in NH too.
On the other hand, Paul and Hunter have made numerous
debate appearances across the nation.
Fox News excludes a vast array of things (like other mainstream networks, it tends to tackle more issues on its Web site).

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Old Jan 13, 2008, 02:55 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Blaming media bias is getting old. Bill Richardson, to his credit, took personal responsibility for his failed campaign. When will the Paulistas follow suit? Man up, people.

Still, to claim there is no bias, or to imply that their pundits underhanded stabs have no effect is equally wrong. Why can't they just play fair, like the motto implies? Doesn't seem very "fair, and balanced" to me. In fact, I'd say they had their thumb on the scale.


And if you think Fox is not biased, then name me a few media pundits to the Right of Kristol, Krauthammer, Hannity, and O'Reilly.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 03:03 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Still, to claim there is no bias, or to imply
that their pundits underhanded stabs have no effect is equally
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Why can't they just play fair, like the motto implies?
Most on FOX are caught in a whirlwind of rightwing ideology. The network seems like an agenda-pushing political circus sideshow (in addition to often being just plain wrong).

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Old Jan 13, 2008, 03:21 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Fox excluded Duncan Hunter in NH too.
Yea, but you know that the Hunter/RP omission was, because of Fox's desire to not give RP face time. Why then at the SC debate RP was the only one that was not given an interview after the debate?
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 04:14 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Still, to claim there is no bias, or to imply that their pundits underhanded stabs have no effect is equally wrong. Why can't they just play fair, like the motto implies? Doesn't seem very "fair, and balanced" to me. In fact, I'd say they had their thumb on the scale.

And if you think Fox is not biased, then name me a few media pundits to the Right of Kristol, Krauthammer, Hannity, and O'Reilly.
Hey, I never said Fox News was "Fair and Balanced." It was and is a shill for the Republican Party. But Paul chose to run as a Republican. Had he ran as a Libertarian, how much "face time" would he get? Paul, in reality, has done quite well getting his message out via all sorts of media. He has a huge campaign war chest. When are the Paul supporters gonna start holding Paul accountable for the Paul campaign's inability to sell the Paul message? How many excuses are there? Paul just lost NH, a state tailor-made for him. His lack of attendance at one debate can't alone explain why a year of intense campaigning and a multi-million dollar ad budget couldn't elevate Paul out of the single digits. As I said, man-up to reality: voters are not buying the Paul message.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 04:22 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Yea, but you know that the Hunter/RP omission was, because of Fox's desire to not give RP face time. Why then at the SC debate RP was the only one that was not given an interview after the debate?
You're preaching to the choir about Fox News. Many Democratic candidates have boycotted that network's debates. Maybe Paul could've run as a Democrat or an independent or a Libertarian, but he didn't. He made his choice. Crying about Republican unfairness after losing the first two primaries is sour grapes from people who should've known better.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 09:35 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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{{GASP!!}} NO!!! This can't be true. After all, FAUX News is Fair and Balanced!!! They say so, right there on the label.




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Old Jan 17, 2008, 10:25 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Ron Paul was voted the best Candidate on FOX's poll at 32%, and now they erase him from the event all together?? Why would you silence someone? Because they threaten what you are promoting - and Ron Paul promotes freedom. What is FOX promoting?
Was this the debate where Doctor Paul pretended to be deaf to avoid a question?

And, shock, Fox News gets to decide what it does and does not broadcast. Someone call the gestapo!


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