Ron Paul Loses New Hampshire Primary

[The Decider]

According to network predictions, Dr.Paul will receive 8% of the vote, well behind the 38% and 29% captured by the top two candidates, John McCain and Mitt Romney. Paul's inability to breach the single digits in a state known for its libertarian leanings does not bode well for his campaign. He has money and organization and oodles of volunteers and little to show for it tonight.

What went wrong?

http://m.cnn.com/cnn/lt_ne/lt_ne/detail/58146

[GHook93]

Quote by: The Decider According to network predictions, Dr.Paul will receive 8% of the vote, well behind the 38% and 29% captured by the top two candidates, John McCain and Mitt Romney. Paul's inability to breach the single digits in a state known for its libertarian leanings does not bode well for his campaign. He has money and organization and oodles of volunteers and little to show for it tonight. What went wrong? CNN || CNN: McCain wins New Hampshire GOP primary

Its a conspiracy right! Radical Paul came in 5th again. Perk up RP supporters you have a moral victory of beating Thompson!

[simple simon]

Quote by: The Decider What went wrong?

he's a lunatic with crazy agendas ........ thats just a guess though

[Chancellor]

Quote by: The Decider According to network predictions, Dr.Paul will receive 8% of the vote, well behind the 38% and 29% captured by the top two candidates, John McCain and Mitt Romney. Paul's inability to breach the single digits in a state known for its libertarian leanings does not bode well for his campaign. He has money and organization and oodles of volunteers and little to show for it tonight. What went wrong? CNN || McCain wins; Dems too close to call

Maybe a significant number of the Libertarians chose not to vote in another party's primary! I certainly wasn't about to change my party affiliation just so I could vote in New York's upcoming Republican primary.

[lsbskins1]

Maybe Ron Paul is just a nut-case in a nice suit who has learned to seem like something he is not. Check this out: Angry White Man

[Clarence]

...never thought it would be like this.

[HelioPrime]

Quote by: GHook93 Its a conspiracy right! Radical Paul came in 5th again. Perk up RP supporters you have a moral victory of beating Thompson!

I think the numbers are right on the mark.

Add in third party voters and it will be the same, as most independents will probably vote mainstream regardless.

[Clarence]

...just kidding. You didn't think he'd win the primaries did you? For one, most voters don't make it out to vote at the primaries. For two, no independents voted in them. Ron Paul did not SPEND money to compete in the primaries, he MADE it. After the primaries where the most Republican candidate, by definition, will be an Independent with a decent following and a bankroll.

The stone the builder refuse, will be the end cornerstone

I just didn't think that the Sonarts or Deciders in the world would hate Ron Paul worse than the neo-cons and the Doolittles at the top of their own party. Even being snide about it..? I feel their attitudes towards him are racist and closeminded. Ignorant even.

[kubedawg]

racist, lol, but closeminded, I agree.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: Clarence Ron Paul did not SPEND money to compete in the primaries, he MADE it. After the primaries where the most Republican candidate, by definition, will be an Independent with a decent following and a bankroll.

It will be too late. Paul said he will not run as 3rd party. And by then the Reps will have their candidate.

He will be standing there with a bunch of loot he should have spent on winning AT LEAST a token state.... Like the host state of the Free State Project.

Anybody predict him winning his home state ....... Texas?

[Chaossaber314]

Quote by: Clarence ...just kidding. You didn't think he'd win the primaries did you? For one, most voters don't make it out to vote at the primaries. For two, no independents voted in them. Ron Paul did not SPEND money to compete in the primaries, he MADE it. After the primaries where the most Republican candidate, by definition, will be an Independent with a decent following and a bankroll. I just didn't think that the Sonarts or Deciders in the world would hate Ron Paul worse than the neo-cons and the Doolittles at the top of their own party. Even being snide about it..? I feel their attitudes towards him are racist and closeminded. Ignorant even.

Racist? He's a confederate apologist but we're racist?

[GHook93]

Quote by: lsbskins1 Maybe Ron Paul is just a nut-case in a nice suit who has learned to seem like something he is not. Check this out: Angry White Man

Wow this is a scarey revelation on Radical Paul! These were written by his own hand or rather he just endorsed it. This guy shouldn't be in charge of a school's PTA, much less be a senator!

[GHook93]

Quote by: Clarence ...just kidding. You didn't think he'd win the primaries did you? For one, most voters don't make it out to vote at the primaries. For two, no independents voted in them. Ron Paul did not SPEND money to compete in the primaries, he MADE it. After the primaries where the most Republican candidate, by definition, will be an Independent with a decent following and a bankroll. I just didn't think that the Sonarts or Deciders in the world would hate Ron Paul worse than the neo-cons and the Doolittles at the top of their own party. Even being snide about it..? I feel their attitudes towards him are racist and closeminded. Ignorant even.

Read the article and then let's see who is closeminded!
Here are a few examples for you because I guarantee you don't read it (note: all the quotes where taken from archives of Radical Paul's weekly newsletters, in which he either wrote himself or endorsed):

(1) "opinion polls consistently show only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions," that "if you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be," and that black representative Barbara Jordan is "the archetypical half-educated victimologist" whose "race and sex protect her from criticism." At the time, Paul's campaign said that Morris had quoted the newsletter out of context. (2) Thomas DiLorenzo, another senior faculty member and author of The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War, refers to the Civil War as the "War for Southern Independence" and attacks "Lincoln cultists"; Paul endorsed the book on MSNBC last month in a debate over whether the Civil War was necessary (Paul thinks it was not). (3) Ron Paul Political Report, published in June 1992, dedicated to explaining the Los Angeles riots of that year. "Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began," read one typical passage. According to the newsletter, the looting was a natural byproduct of government indulging the black community with "'civil rights,' quotas, mandated hiring preferences, set-asides for government contracts, gerrymandered voting districts, black bureaucracies, black mayors, black curricula in schools, black tv shows, black tv anchors, hate crime laws, and public humiliation for anyone who dares question the black agenda." (4) As early as December 1989, a section of his Investment Letter, titled "What To Expect for the 1990s," predicted that "Racial Violence Will Fill Our Cities" because "mostly black welfare recipients will feel justified in stealing from mostly white 'haves.'" Two months later, a newsletter warned of "The Coming Race War," (5) the most tragic [to] ever occur on that continent, at least below the Sahara"; and, in March 1994, a month before Nelson Mandela was elected president, one item warned of an impending "South African Holocaust." ==> of white South Africans (6) On MLK JR. ==> often to justify opposition to the federal holiday named after him. ("What an infamy Ronald Reagan approved it!" one newsletter complained in 1990. "We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day.") X-Rated Martin Luther King" as a "world-class philanderer who beat up his paramours," "seduced underage girls and boys," and "made a pass at" fellow civil rights leader Ralph Abernathy. One newsletter ridiculed black activists who wanted to rename New York City after King, suggesting that "Welfaria," "Zooville," "Rapetown," "Dirtburg," and "Lazyopolis" were better alternatives. (7) kind words for the former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke. In a passage titled "The Duke's Victory," a newsletter celebrated Duke's 44 percent showing in the 1990 Louisiana Senate primary. "Duke lost the election," it said, "but he scared the blazes out of the Establishment." (8) In an item titled, "The Pink House?" the author of a newsletter--again, presumably Paul--complained about President George H.W. Bush's decision to sign a hate crimes bill and invite "the heads of homosexual lobbying groups to the White House for the ceremony," adding, "I miss the closet." "Homosexuals," it said, "not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities." Paul newsletter implored, "Bring Back the Closet!" Surprisingly, one item expressed ambivalence about the contentious issue of gays in the military, but ultimately concluded, "Homosexuals, if admitted, should be put in a special category and not allowed in close physical contact with heterosexuals." (9) Of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, a newsletter said, "Whether it was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little."

[Clarence]

Welp. I guess that settles it.

[The Decider]

Quote by: Clarence ...just kidding. You didn't think he'd win the primaries did you? For one, most voters don't make it out to vote at the primaries. For two, no independents voted in them. Ron Paul did not SPEND money to compete in the primaries, he MADE it. After the primaries where the most Republican candidate, by definition, will be an Independent with a decent following and a bankroll.

Huh? Over 40% of New Hampshire voters are registered independents and they can vote in either the Democratic or Republican primaries. Ron Paul spent multiple thousands of dollars in New Hampshire trying to convince those same independent voters to back his candidacy. The final figure is probably in the millions because of the prime time Boston media time he purchased this week. You don't know what you are talking about Clarence. Pay attention to reality for a change.

Quote by: Clarence ...I just didn't think that the Sonarts or Deciders in the world would hate Ron Paul worse than the neo-cons and the Doolittles at the top of their own party. Even being snide about it..? I feel their attitudes towards him are racist and closeminded. Ignorant even.

I don't "hate" Ron Paul. He performed well during debates and I respect his position on the war. But he and his supporters can't escape the negatives--his past positions on race, his own support of budget earmarks, and his looney tune positions on everything from the Federal Reserve to the North American conspiracy.

Nor can they escape political reality when it hits them square in the face--voters aren't buying his message. The polls reflected that all year, now the election returns confirm the polls.

Calling me or Sonart or Chaossaber or GHook ignorant or racist or whatever won't make Ron Paul any more appealing. It just makes you pathetic.

[Chaossaber314]

(9) Of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, a newsletter said, "Whether it was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little."

If photoshop wasn't on the fritz I'd post a picture of Stephen Colbert with his "Jewish Friend" with Ron Paul's head superimposed over Stephen.

[Sandy]

For those of you who call Ron Paul weak minded and actually believe what the New Republic says about him. Here we go again!!!

Back in 1964 we pulled out a Goldwater win in the GOP Conference and we were celebrating in the streets. We forgot about how the GOP runs and two men came after Goldwater with comments similar to the New Republic. One of those men was Nelson Rockefeller and the other was Mitt Romney's father. The Republican Party is terribly bigoted about new people trying to run for office. Goldwater lost because the GOP pulled their support from him. I am not surprised that New Republic wrote what they did. Lew Rockwell wrote a great piece about the magazine but I will not link it because you all want to believe that Ron Paul is a nut case.

If you understood the founders of America, you would recognize how similar Paul is to Thomas Jefferson.

America is not good enough to elect Ron Paul.

[The Decider]

Quote by: Sandy If you understood the founders of America, you would recognize how similar Paul is to Thomas Jefferson.

Well, Ron "Thomas Jefferson" Paul just lost the New Hampshire primary, big time. That's the topic of this thread.

[Chaossaber314]

If you understood the founders of America, you would recognize how similar Paul is to Thomas Jefferson.

The arrogance in this statement is staggering.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Ron Paul votes were not counted in at least one district of New Hampshire.
If they caught one already.... how many havent been caught yet?

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