Why to vote for Romney!

[Winter wind]

Wait, I thought you lived in South Africa.

[PatC]

sorry i post sparingly...

UHC in MA is not as great as it seems to be. It is not exactly universal health care, the state taxes people who do not have HC, and gives a deductible to those that do. I am not in the plan myself since i am still in school. I have plenty of friends that flat out despise it. I must admit i dont know a whole lot about it but it does not function well. It is relatively new so it is only fair to look at the system 10 years down the road and see how well it works then.

As for immigration, I worked in landscape supply for a few years, 85% of everyone in it is illegal, 10% are stoners, and 5% are part time college and high school students. The Boston Globe ran a story about Mitts illegal landscaping company a year or so ago and followed up a few months later and he still had the same company. He has since fired them, but that was only when the republican race started to heat up.

Sorry, If you sign up to govern for 4 years, you govern for 4 years. I dislike all politicians for this, (i.e. Kerry, everyone else that has held an office and ran for the presidency, only to return if you fail)

Cape Wind is an interesting project, in a nutshell (stolen from their website) "Cape Wind is proposing America’s first offshore wind farm on Horseshoe Shoal in Nantucket Sound. Miles from the nearest shore, 130 wind turbines will gracefully harness the wind to produce up to 420 megawatts of clean, renewable energy. In average winds, Cape Wind will provide three quarters of the Cape and Islands electricity needs." Cape Wind :: America's First Offshore Wind Farm on Nantucket Sound
Mitt opposed it, (as did Ted Kennedy because it would obstruct the view from his mansion and interfere with sailing routes), but nearly everyone in MA is for it. I honestly dont know why he opposed it, he did sign a bill allowing for a wind farm to be built in the Berkshires, providing it was moved from the proposed location, in a wealthy county, to a more remote one

[grandpa]

Quote by: Winter wind I don't mind you not voting, but you should do something to change the system. Otherwise it's just whining.

I do not speak for the organization, nor do I want to engage in it. It engages with me, though, as well as many others who would rather see its monopoly of force broken up. Why should I vote for it now and expect it to go away later on?

Grandpa h.

[Kakumei]

Quote by: GPIRS88 How many deaths from smoking and Alcohol?

Elvis Prestly Anyone?

[Kakumei]

Quote by: Winter wind Haha, the media would find dirt on Mother Teresa. He was pro-choice, then he was pro-life. In 1994 he was filmed at a pro-choice fund raiser were he raised money. Now, according to his current position, he opposes it (check out his website).

You can be pro-life in the fact that support it, but be pro-choice in the fact that you think a person needs to make the desicion themselves.
Its called less Government my friends, and I like it. (I also am pro-life, but they must make there own decisions.)

[Winter wind]

Quote by: kakumei You can be pro-life in the fact that support it, but be pro-choice in the fact that you think a person needs to make the desicion themselves. Its called less Government my friends, and I like it. (I also am pro-life, but they must make there own decisions.)

I should have specified: He was against government involvement and now he's for it (on abortion).

Quote by: grandpa I do not speak for the organization, nor do I want to engage in it. It engages with me, though, as well as many others who would rather see its monopoly of force broken up. Why should I vote for it now and expect it to go away later on?

You misunderstand me. I don't mean you have to vote, I mean if you believe in a different system of government. Advocate it seriously. If you believe in voting fraud, find evidence and bring it in front of a court of law, and if their judgment is obviously skewed, then bring it before the public.

[GHook93]

Quote by: PatC sorry i post sparingly... UHC in MA is not as great as it seems to be. It is not exactly universal health care, the state taxes people who do not have HC, and gives a deductible to those that do. I am not in the plan myself since i am still in school. I have plenty of friends that flat out despise it. I must admit i dont know a whole lot about it but it does not function well. It is relatively new so it is only fair to look at the system 10 years down the road and see how well it works then. As for immigration, I worked in landscape supply for a few years, 85% of everyone in it is illegal, 10% are stoners, and 5% are part time college and high school students. The Boston Globe ran a story about Mitts illegal landscaping company a year or so ago and followed up a few months later and he still had the same company. He has since fired them, but that was only when the republican race started to heat up. Sorry, If you sign up to govern for 4 years, you govern for 4 years. I dislike all politicians for this, (i.e. Kerry, everyone else that has held an office and ran for the presidency, only to return if you fail) Cape Wind is an interesting project, in a nutshell (stolen from their website) "Cape Wind is proposing America’s first offshore wind farm on Horseshoe Shoal in Nantucket Sound. Miles from the nearest shore, 130 wind turbines will gracefully harness the wind to produce up to 420 megawatts of clean, renewable energy. In average winds, Cape Wind will provide three quarters of the Cape and Islands electricity needs." Cape Wind :: America's First Offshore Wind Farm on Nantucket Sound Mitt opposed it, (as did Ted Kennedy because it would obstruct the view from his mansion and interfere with sailing routes), but nearly everyone in MA is for it. I honestly dont know why he opposed it, he did sign a bill allowing for a wind farm to be built in the Berkshires, providing it was moved from the proposed location, in a wealthy county, to a more remote one

Good to hear some insight from someone effected directly. The healthcare plan in MA is supposed to basically force everyone to get healthcare insurance. Everyone hates health insurance until they get sick and then its too late. But it has seemed to accomplish at least the vast majority of the MA citizens getting health insurance, that is a huge success in itself.

As for the illegals! That is a unfair attack, pretty much we all have illegals do our gardening. It is also silly for people to ask, or expect, Romney to check all of his gardeners green cards.

As for the Cape Winds project, I believe he thought the rewards weren't worth the cost! He has a great record on the environment! But I will admit this was a little disheartening to me!
Romney offers renewable energy support, critics say it's "lip service" :: Cape Wind :: America's First Offshore Wind Farm on Nantucket Sound

In response to claims that Romney's position on renewable energy is inconsistent, his press secretary, Julie Teer, promoted the governor's record on clean energy policies and other issues. "Governor Romney supports renewable energy," Teer said in an email. "He opposes building a wind farm in Nantucket Sound, which is a National Treasure. The Governor has been a leader on clean energy, energy efficiency and climate issues in the Commonwealth. This includes his aggressive enforcement of the Filthy Five regulations, the introduction of the state's first broad-based climate and energy conservation plan and the pursuit of a smart growth agenda that shapes every aspect of development in Massachusetts." Romney is one of nine governors in the Northeast working on a Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative to reduce carbon dioxide, or greenhouse gas emissions, that causes global warming. That group was expected to release its regulations in April, and has since said more time is needed. Here in Massachusetts, the administration is revising the state's pollution standards for the so-called Filthy Six power plants. Those regulations are expected to be released in January, Romney said today.

[Sandy]

Romney's first order of business will be a prohibition on abortions and gay marriages. He has bragged about this. So it seems that this forum needs a Big Daddy to tell them what not to do.

Romney lives part time on this universe and the rest of the time baptising others who forgot and will not go to heaven. He also has wives living in another dimension because he can only have one here. He treats women like brood mares. He would not be a member of the LDS unless he was a racist. He is also a liar but that is justified if done in the name of Jesus Christ. If this is what you all want, then go for it.

Romney is my third cousin and his father was a close classmate of my mother's at BYU. I remember George stabbing Goldwater's campaign in the back and caused LBJ to be elected. The family will do anything for money and lies are simply built in. His wife walks around as if she smells something rotten which is probably his voters.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Winter wind You misunderstand me. I don't mean you have to vote, I mean if you believe in a different system of government.

I hesitate to advocate any system of government, unless by "government" one means free cooperatives.

Grandpa h.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Sandy Romney's first order of business will be a prohibition on abortions and gay marriages. He has bragged about this.

Ah, the great "red herring" issues.

Grandpa h.

[Kakumei]

Quote by: Winter wind I should have specified: He was against government involvement and now he's for it (on abortion).

I see, my apologies then.

(Nice Avi, lol. I think I want it! J/k)

[Kakumei]

Quote by: Sandy Romney lives part time on this universe and the rest of the time baptising others who forgot and will not go to heaven. He also has wives living in another dimension because he can only have one here. He treats women like brood mares. He would not be a member of the LDS unless he was a racist. He is also a liar but that is justified if done in the name of Jesus Christ. If this is what you all want, then go for it. Romney is my third cousin and his father was a close classmate of my mother's at BYU. I remember George stabbing Goldwater's campaign in the back and caused LBJ to be elected. The family will do anything for money and lies are simply built in. His wife walks around as if she smells something rotten which is probably his voters.

If thats all true, then im a dingbat from Hell. You are obviously an anti-mormon mad because the best man for a canidate is LDS. You see him as images and lies, weather you are making up the lies or gulible enough to listen to them, just know that they are truly lies.

You look too much at people from lies because they are 'mormons' and forget that they are too what we are, humans and children of God. No exceptions.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Sandy Romney's first order of business will be a prohibition on abortions and gay marriages. He has bragged about this. So it seems that this forum needs a Big Daddy to tell them what not to do. Romney lives part time on this universe and the rest of the time baptising others who forgot and will not go to heaven. He also has wives living in another dimension because he can only have one here. He treats women like brood mares. He would not be a member of the LDS unless he was a racist. He is also a liar but that is justified if done in the name of Jesus Christ. If this is what you all want, then go for it. Romney is my third cousin and his father was a close classmate of my mother's at BYU. I remember George stabbing Goldwater's campaign in the back and caused LBJ to be elected. The family will do anything for money and lies are simply built in. His wife walks around as if she smells something rotten which is probably his voters.

Ouch, I feel like I got kicked in the b@lls! I'm an atheist Jew; the man's religion means nothing to me (well I will admit unless the candidate is a Muslim). Gay marriage is a non-issue and abortion is a minor issue to me. I care most about the economy, which I believe Romney has the most credentials on!

[Winter wind]

Quote by: grandpa I hesitate to advocate any system of government, unless by "government" one means free cooperatives.

then advocate it.

Quote by: kakumei (Nice Avi, lol. I think I want it! J/k)

There is literally no one in the world I do not hate right now.

[Kakumei]

Quote by: Winter wind There is literally no one in the world I do not hate right now.

I dunno, its a good look for you. lol.

[rmnunez]

Romney is a devout member of a freakish sect while most united statians are staid Christian protestants. Romney has good family values and unimpeachable ethics, but the fact he's a Mormon works against him for the majority of the electorate.

[grandpa]

Quote by: rmnunez Romney is a devout member of a freakish sect while most united statians are staid Christian protestants. Romney has good family values and unimpeachable ethics, but the fact he's a Mormon works against him for the majority of the electorate.

And the founders who created our country and kept slaves weren't freakish? The electorate isn't freakish?

Grandpa h.

[rmnunez]

The fact you'd vote for Romney proves my point gramps.

[grandpa]

Quote by: rmnunez The fact you'd vote for Romney proves my point gramps.

I never said I'd vote for Romney.

Grandpa h.

[Winter wind]

Haven't you heard, grandpa isn't voting for anyone.