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![]() Right of Center Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,766 | Quote:
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![]() "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." -- Winston Churchill | ||
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![]() Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,787 | *nods* At the cost of 4 legions garrisoning it...a tenth of the Roman military power. There's the various colonial empires set up from 1500 onwards....there's Spain itself, and Russia...there's Great Britain (ie the English occupation of Scotland, Wales, and until comparatively recently, Ireland). There are hundreds, if not thousands of examples.... I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes. |
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| formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,761 | Quote:
The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant) | |
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![]() Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 7,158 | Western Allied occupation of Germany (i.e. the British, French and US zones that eventually became the Federal Republic of Germany) are a thorough-going success story. Just look at Germany today. "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne |
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| blasphemer Location: Michigan Posts: 7,973 | It depends on what we mean by "success." If the mere prolonged existence of an occupation makes it a success story, then by all means there are many examples. Grandpa h. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you (unless it costs something). |
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![]() Aristotle Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,589 | (1) The native Hawaiians resisted in the beginning and lost! (2) There was a farce vote to make Hawaii a state, by having mostly white American colonizers vote in the election (3) The Hawaiian separatist movement gets very little steam, even thought there are still many and an identifiable native Hawaiian population (4) The US has had a very peaceful rule over Hawaii (5) More non-native Hawaiians citizens make up Hawaii (6) The majority of the Native Hawaiian population has seemed to accept their fate (7) They have been colonized peaceful for nearly 1/2 a century and there seems no foreseeable change ending it. History of Hawaii Quote:
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![]() Great Knower Of All Location: Maine Posts: 240 | how about the US presence in South Korea .... ask the North Koreans who has it better ... oh that's right you cant .. they will be killed if they speak out against the State last i heard the Indians werent 'native' to this land either ........ they were here before us .. but they were not native When I look at you, I doubt I could eat the amount I wanna vomit |
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![]() Igneous Magma Location: Virgnia, USA Posts: 425 | Plenty of them. Roman Empire, Hungary as a nation emerged as a result of success occupation by Bulgarian tribes from the Kama River region, Russian Empire grew up as a result of very successful occupations, William the Conqueror occupied England very successfully. Hunt with dogs |
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| blasphemer Location: Michigan Posts: 7,973 | Sometimes invaders become the invaded. However, I'd add the caveat that people merely looking for work aren't necessarily an occupying force. Grandpa h. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you (unless it costs something). |
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