10 Most Corrupt Politicians

[xyzer]

Judicial Watch announces it choices for 2007.
Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians� for 2007 | Judicial Watch

Notice how this crosses major Party lines. What is bad is that both the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader made the list. The two posturing failures at getting anything done are also crooks

And as expected Hillary Clinton made the list..I note the list is aphabetical so she is not the worst. Three other presidential candidates are there..Obama. Giuliani and Huckabee?

What the heck is going on in the poltical world? Apparently a 'little bit' of corruption is OK as long as you don't get caught? Even if you do the ethics committees will drag their feet and nothing happens?

[Suburbanite]

the list doesn't even have George Bush on it... are you kidding?

[GHook93]

Glad to see that Romney is on the list. But I will take this list with a grain of salt. It takes the 2 front runners of both parties on the list. I don't truth it!

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Suburbanite the list doesn't even have George Bush on it... are you kidding?

Heh, good point.


Come on people, put two, and two together here.


The problem is exactly as George Washington predicted in his farewell speech, people have put party before everything else. Now, just as predicted, we have a cabal of co-conspiritors working for agendas other than those they were elected to represent.


1) Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) *
2) Rep. John Conyers (D-MI)
3) Senator Larry Craig (R-ID)
4) Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA)
5) Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) *
6) Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR) *
7) I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby (former Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney)
8) Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) *
9) Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
10) Senator Harry Reid (D-NV)


Hmmm, look at all those Presidential front runners listed amond the most proficient liars. Coincidence?

[RVonse]

Can this country survive with a bunch of crooks running it?

[GHook93]

Judicial Watch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They have also received a great deal of funding from Clinton critics, including $7.74 million from conservative anti-Clinton billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife.[3] This led Clinton administration officials to accuse them of "abusing the judicial system for partisan ends".[4] Judicial Watch receives funding from mainly conservative sources. In 2002, Judicial Watch received $1.1 million from The Carthage Foundation[8] and a further $400,000 from the Sarah Scaife Foundation. Both foundations are Managed by Richard Mellon Scaife. [8] The year before the Scaife Foundation gave $1.35 million and Carthage $500,000.[8]

Below is Scaife's views on Clinton. It is funny that client heads the list of a conservative organization that Scaife bankrolls. Seem very fishy to me. Also coincidentially "odd" is that they listed some of the most powerful Democrats to the list. I am no Clinton backer (I would actually vote for Radical Paul over her), but I see this list as highly biased and questionable!
Richard Mellon Scaife - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Opposition to Bill Clinton Scaife's publications were substantially involved in coverage against then-President Bill Clinton. Scaife was the major backer of The American Spectator, whose Arkansas Project set out to find facts about Clinton and in which Paula Jones' accusations of sexual harassment against Clinton were first widely publicized. In a 1999 series of articles on Scaife and foundations that support conservative causes, the Washington Post named a close Scaife associate, Richard Larry, and not Scaife himself as the man who drove the Arkansas Project. Regardless of his role, the project not only accused Clinton of financial and sexual indiscretions (some later verified, others not), but also gave root to hyperbolic conspiracist notions that the Clintons collaborated with the CIA to run a drug smuggling operation out of the town of Mena, Arkansas and that Clinton had arranged for the murder of White House aide Vince Foster as part of a coverup of the Whitewater scandal. The possibility that money from the project had been given to former Clinton associate David Hale, a witness in the Whitewater investigation, led to the appointment of Michael J. Shaheen as a special investigator. Shaheen subpoenaed Scaife, who testified before a federal grand jury in the matter. So involved was Scaife in efforts against Clinton that many Democrats believed Hillary Clinton's statement condemning a "vast right-wing conspiracy" against her husband was a direct reference to Scaife himself. President Clinton later admitted to sexual indiscretions, but the other allegations that came out of the Arkansas Project were never proven. Coincidental to the Lewinsky scandal and Clinton's impeachment, Scaife endowed a new school of public policy at Pepperdine University. Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr was named the first dean of this school, although Pepperdine denies any connection. Starr accepted the post in 1996, but in the ensuing controversy, Starr gave up the appointment in 1998 before ever having started at Pepperdine. That same year Scaife's friend and Pittsburgh attorney, H. Yale Gutnick, denied that there was any connection between Scaife and Starr: I can tell you unequivocally that there is absolutely no linkage between Scaife and Starr in any way, shape or form. Had Ken Starr's picture not been all over the television and newspapers in recent weeks, I don't think Dick Scaife would recognize him at a social event. They have never communicated, they have never seen each other personally, and there's no relationship whatsoever. Dick Scaife has been involved with Pepperdine I think before Clinton became governor of Arkansas, and clearly long before he was president and before the special prosecutor ever was even a dream in anybody's imagination. His giving to Pepperdine has been consistent over the years and it's been generous. [13] However, once the investigation was behind him, Starr was appointed to head Pepperdine's law school in 2004.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: RVonse Can this country survive with a bunch of crooks running it?

Well, it's not really "surviving" now, so I my answer would be a resounding no.

[Chaossaber314]

Quote by: Suburbanite the list doesn't even have George Bush on it... are you kidding?

There's a strong possibility that George Bush isn't exactly corrupt per se but merely surrounds himself with complete and utter scum. Doesn't negate or excuse his actions but does mitigate them quite a bit in comparison to people who purposefully do things like... say... get their son out of legal trouble after he tortured and brutally killed a dog.

You really can't be the most corrupt politician AND a puppet at the same time.

[Suburbanite]

Quote by: Chaossaber314 There's a strong possibility that George Bush isn't exactly corrupt per se but merely surrounds himself with complete and utter scum. Doesn't negate or excuse his actions but does mitigate them quite a bit in comparison to people who purposefully do things like... say... get their son out of legal trouble after he tortured and brutally killed a dog. You really can't be the most corrupt politician AND a puppet at the same time.

uhm, he is responsible for two wars, lies, and fabrications up to his ass, don't even start, there hasnt been a president who holds a candle to this guy

[xyzer]

Thats right GHooks..attack the messenger? Only problem is it's illogical and smacks of the playground.

The report(opinion if you like) crosses party lines and gives a brief summary of why the perps made the list. Its an opinion thing. And just about everyone has an opinion right or wrong.

By the way opposition to and criticism of Bill Clinton is pretty well fact based. This guy was unique in that he was impeached for felonious conduct. Perjury. And of course he demeaned his office and tried to ameliorate it by releasing salicious facts(or rumors ) about other presidents. The good old playground logic of they did it too. The guy was/is a liar and lowlife and yet he is still around leering at the chicks and spouting off wisdoms. What a joke.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Well, it's not really "surviving" now, so I my answer would be a resounding no.

The left always pray for the American to collaspe, when in fact we still have the highest GDP of any country out their. Are we not as well off as we were 10 years ago absolutely, but we are doing fine. Don't worry Milt, my boy Mitt Romney will turn it around when he is voted in as President!

[GHook93]

X,

I would love this to be turn. I fear a Clinton run America more than I fear a Radical Paul run America. I can't say Reid or Pelosi. I also love see Huckabee on the list. It also helps my candidate Mitt Romney. However, this is a very subjective analysis, so you have to look at the messenger and the messenger is a strong conservative who have a political agenda against the Clintons!

Quote by: xyzer Thats right GHooks..attack the messenger? Only problem is it's illogical and smacks of the playground. The report(opinion if you like) crosses party lines and gives a brief summary of why the perps made the list. Its an opinion thing. And just about everyone has an opinion right or wrong. By the way opposition to and criticism of Bill Clinton is pretty well fact based. This guy was unique in that he was impeached for felonious conduct. Perjury. And of course he demeaned his office and tried to ameliorate it by releasing salicious facts(or rumors ) about other presidents. The good old playground logic of they did it too. The guy was/is a liar and lowlife and yet he is still around leering at the chicks and spouting off wisdoms. What a joke.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: GHook93 The left always pray for the American to collaspe, when in fact we still have the highest GDP of any country out their. Are we not as well off as we were 10 years ago absolutely, but we are doing fine. Don't worry Milt, my boy Mitt Romney will turn it around when he is voted in as President!

Who the Hell are you talking too?


I'm not "the Left", nor a critical Lefty, or any other kind of Left.

[Chaossaber314]

Quote by: Suburbanite uhm, he is responsible for two wars, lies, and fabrications up to his ass, don't even start, there hasnt been a president who holds a candle to this guy

Actually there's been plenty if you actually know anything about American history.

Andrew Jackson / Indian Removal Act?

FDR / Japanese Internment Camps?

Truman / 2 atomic bombs dropped on Japan?

Abraham Lincoln / Suspension of Habeas Corpus / Imprisoning political opponents?

All of these things are about a hundred times worse than anything Bush has done. The man is a worthless human being, but pretending he's the worst is dishonest if you know history, and simply ignorant if you don't.

However, on topic, what evidence do you have that this bumbling man is directly responsible for coming up with many of the scandals he's found himself in, as opposed to his far more intelligent Neocon handlers? Frankly I'm surprised Cheney was not on the list whom I find much more culpable than Bush who in all likelihood is not the "brains" behind this operation.

[Suburbanite]

Quote by: Chaossaber314 Actually there's been plenty if you actually know anything about American history. Andrew Jackson / Indian Removal Act? FDR / Japanese Internment Camps? Truman / 2 atomic bombs dropped on Japan? Abraham Lincoln / Suspension of Habeas Corpus / Imprisoning political opponents? All of these things are about a hundred times worse than anything Bush has done. The man is a worthless human being, but pretending he's the worst is dishonest if you know history, and simply ignorant if you don't. However, on topic, what evidence do you have that this bumbling man is directly responsible for coming up with many of the scandals he's found himself in, as opposed to his far more intelligent Neocon handlers? Frankly I'm surprised Cheney was not on the list whom I find much more culpable than Bush who in all likelihood is not the "brains" behind this operation.

i thought the list was of current politicians

[Chaossaber314]

I quote YOU. We were discussing YOUR comment per the quote.

You said... "there hasnt been a president who holds a candle to this guy" I gave several examples.

[Suburbanite]

alright whatever

[xyzer]

Chaossabar314..
The acts you cited by various presidents fit the ISRATT scenario. That is "It Seemed Right At The Time" and were the result of events not personal faults.

A liar, molester and ithyphallic creep like Clinton doesn't fit that bill of responding to preceived national dangers and events does he really?.Does a governor of a state exposing himself publicly to an employee measure up with a wartime president like Truman faced with a choice of saving thousands of lives by using the atom bomb compare? I think not. Does a president who fondles a woman and sexually molests others compare to a President Jackson facing the reports of Indian attacks and depredations? Did Roosevelt and Jackson deliberately lie to the nation or perjure themselves in a court?
You get the drift..there is no valid comparsion.

[Chaossaber314]

Xyzer, a lot of the items I listed go beyond it seeming right.

IE... the fact that 2 atom bombs were dropped rather than one.

[Suburbanite]

Quote by: xyzer Chaossabar314.. The acts you cited by various presidents fit the ISRATT scenario. That is "It Seemed Right At The Time" and were the result of events not personal faults. A liar, molester and ithyphallic creep like Clinton doesn't fit that bill of responding to preceived national dangers and events does he really?.Does a governor of a state exposing himself publicly to an employee measure up with a wartime president like Truman faced with a choice of saving thousands of lives by using the atom bomb compare? I think not. Does a president who fondles a woman and sexually molests others compare to a President Jackson facing the reports of Indian attacks and depredations? Did Roosevelt and Jackson deliberately lie to the nation or perjure themselves in a court? You get the drift..there is no valid comparsion.

who did he molest?