Huckabee Squashed Charges Against His Son For Stoning, Hanging Dog

[kubedawg]

The 18yr old son of Pres candidate Mike Huckabee and a friend have admitted to catching a stray dog during their summer session at Boy Scout Camp Pioneer in Hatfield, AR, and hanging the dog by his neck, slitting his throat and stoning him to death ...

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Huckabee Squashed Charges Against His Son For Stoning, Hanging Dog

[GHook93]

http://static.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/huckfamily.jpg

All I have to say is that is not a pretty family!

[adam10312]

Hahaha... I could care less about his son or the dog, but if he broke the law (used his influence to aid criminals) he should go to jail.

[kubedawg]

So you don't mind animal cruelty is what you're saying? Then how about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0YrDMeVvI
NSFW PEOPLE, DON'T WATCH IF YOU HAVE A WEAK STOMACH!

This is a horrible thing to do to an animal... For someone to say they don't care about the brutal killing of an animal like this doesn't show much about your character.

[adam10312]

Quote by: kubedawg So you don't mind animal cruelty is what you're saying? Then how about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG0YrDMeVvI NSFW PEOPLE, DON'T WATCH IF YOU HAVE A WEAK STOMACH! This is a horrible thing to do to an animal... For someone to say they don't care about the brutal killing of an animal like this doesn't show much about your character.

You don't really care about it either. You don't do anything about it. It goes on all day.

Anyway you should have put the "DON'T WATCH IF YOU HAVE A WEAK STOMACH!" warning before the picture of the Huckabee family... I almost vomited...

[adam10312]

If I went to the beach one day and ran into that family I think I would gouge my eyes out...

[kubedawg]

Quote by: adam10312 You don't really care about it either. You don't do anything about it. It goes on all day.

I care, but I am only a man, what can I do when thousands of people throughout the world that harm animals in this manner?

[Michael1695]

Quote by: kubedawg I care, but I am only a man, what can I do when thousands of people throughout the world that harm animals in this manner?

Join the idiots at PETA.

[adam10312]

Quote by: kubedawg I care, but I am only a man, what can I do when thousands of people throughout the world that harm animals in this manner?

Okay when I initially said I didn't care about the dog I was being facetious. I just wanted to be sure to illustrate that I thought the issue of a politician altering the law overshadows the harm to the dog in terms of outrageousness (to me). I hate people who hurt dogs because I really like dogs. However, I realize that people in China or wherever skin dogs everyday and I can't get as angry about this as I can a politician spitting in the face of the law here and getting away with it.

[kubedawg]

Quote by: Michael1695 Join the idiots at PETA.

haha no thanks. As much as I hate PETA, I hate animal cruelty much worse. Ironic how that video was made by PETA, huh?

[Michael1695]

Quote by: kubedawg haha no thanks. As much as I hate PETA, I hate animal cruelty much worse. Ironic how that video was made by PETA, huh?

I didn't see the video. They took it off the site when I tried to watch it. Maybe because it is too graphic. What is it a video of?

[Chancellor]

Quote by: kubedawg Full Article: Huckabee Squashed Charges Against His Son For Stoning, Hanging Dog

Okay, first of all, the supposed event happened in 1998 - nearly 10 years ago. Second, it was reported by a damned blog! Note the article stated "(as quoted in DogBlog)." Do these media idiots no longer know how to go out and research their own damned stories instead of reporting a bunch of hearsay from BLOGGERS??????

[The Decider]

Here's the picture of Huckabee's pride and joy:



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[kubedawg]

Quote by: Chancellor Okay, first of all, the supposed event happened in 1998 - nearly 10 years ago. Second, it was reported by a damned blog! Note the article stated "(as quoted in DogBlog)." Do these media idiots no longer know how to go out and research their own damned stories instead of reporting a bunch of hearsay from BLOGGERS??????

If it's true, does it really matter?

[Chancellor]

Quote by: kubedawg If it's true, does it really matter?

Yes. It's like Time Magazine getting information for a story from Wikipedia. If it is true, then the information should be available from a credible source.

[The Decider]

Quote by: Chancellor Yes. It's like Time Magazine getting information for a story from Wikipedia. If it is true, then the information should be available from a credible source.

Didn't the DogBlog reproduce the original article from the Arkansas Democrat Gazette, including author and date? Let's see...

Here is the article from the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. It was published on August 7th, 1998.

Governor’s son 1 of 2; fired at Scout camp; after stray dog killed

ELIZABETH McFARLAND, ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE

The younger son of Gov. Mike Huckabee and another teen were fired last month from jobs at a Boy Scout camp after the killing of a stray dog.

Marcal Young of Texarkana, scout executive of the Caddo Area Council that operates the camp where the dog was killed, said this week that two boys violated a Scout law, “A Scout is kind.”

Young would not release the names of the boys nor explain how the dog, “probably a mixed breed,” was killed.

The two teens reported the event immediately and said they had made a mistake.
“They felt it [the dog] was ill and what have you, still our policy is it was inappropriate behavior,” Young said.

He would not say what the boys thought was wrong with the dog, but he said they did not suspect rabies.

Members of the camp staff receive training before camp starts and are told what it means to be “a good role model,” Young said.

An anonymous, unconfirmed report describing a particular process of killing the dog and naming young Huckabee as a participant was sent by fax machine this week by an organization against cruelty to animals to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. That report was described by Young and the governor as inaccurate.

Both men declined to say how the dog had been killed or who did it.

The dog was killed July 11 at Camp Pioneer near Hatfield. Only employees witnessed the incident. Not many of them were on hand, one source said.

Young said he chose not to reveal the names of the employees because “I just think that they’re due privacy. These are young people. They make mistakes occasionally, but I’m not covering for them.”

Young said the council’s board gives him the authority to take care of personnel decisions. He said the council believes it took appropriate action and the matter is closed. He said he did not report it to law enforcement authorities.

A source who asked to remain unnamed said David Huckabee, who turned 18 on July 22 and was 17 at the time of the incident, was one of those fired over it.

A reporter’s message left at the Governor’s Mansion for David Huckabee was not returned.

Danny Frady of Texarkana said his son, Clayton, 19, was the other staff member who was fired.

The elder Frady said his son told him he came upon one or more Scouts who had the dog “hung over a limb and choking” so the younger Frady helped “put it out of its misery.”

“I think the boy has paid his dues because he lost his job. He was one of the better counselors. He’s made a mistake, and he’s paid for it,” Danny Frady said. “I don’t think he did anything wrong to put an animal out of its misery.”

Danny Frady said killing a stray dog that has become a nuisance is common in rural areas. The mistake was doing it in front of other youth staff members, Frady said.

Young said the fired employees might be required to undergo counseling if they applied to be employees again. Danny Frady said he doesn’t think his son needs counseling because “he’s not cruel to animals.”

Polk County Sheriff Mike Oglesby said neither he nor his deputies had heard of the incident. A complaint should have been made, he said.

Prosecuting Attorney Tim Williamson of Mena said cruelty to animals is a Class A misdemeanor, punishable by up to a $ 1,000 fine and up to a year in jail. “We regularly charge cruelty to animals. That’s kind of my pet peeve,” he said.

Oglesby and Williamson said they didn’t intend to investigate because no one had lodged a complaint.

Camp Pioneer in Polk County served 2,026 campers for week-long stints from May 31 through July 25.

The camp employed 65 staff members. Caddo Area Council includes eight Arkansas counties and two Texas counties.

Dogster For The Love of Dog Blog » Archive » Presidential Candiate Mike Huckabee’s Son David Tortured and Killed Stray Dog in 1998, Charges Never Filed and Huckabee Not Punished

Yep, there it is. If you still distrust the information, and you want the link, I suppose you could pay the archive fee usually charged by smaller newspapers. But it does appear the information is correct. The DogBlog is exonerated.

[Chris]

wow, just wow.

Fat ass redneck fatboys get their jollies off of killing and torturing a dog. I wonder if they got the stoning idea from the bible. - Thats the only place I ever heard of stoning used as a punishment.

[Chancellor]

Quote by: The Decider Didn't the DogBlog reproduce the original article from the Arkansas Democrat Gazette, including author and date? Let's see... Here is the article from the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. It was published on August 7th, 1998. Governor’s son 1 of 2; fired at Scout camp; after stray dog killed ELIZABETH McFARLAND, ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE The younger son of Gov. Mike Huckabee and another teen were fired last month from jobs at a Boy Scout camp after the killing of a stray dog. Marcal Young of Texarkana, scout executive of the Caddo Area Council that operates the camp where the dog was killed, said this week that two boys violated a Scout law, “A Scout is kind.” Young would not release the names of the boys nor explain how the dog, “probably a mixed breed,” was killed. The two teens reported the event immediately and said they had made a mistake. “They felt it [the dog] was ill and what have you, still our policy is it was inappropriate behavior,” Young said. He would not say what the boys thought was wrong with the dog, but he said they did not suspect rabies. Members of the camp staff receive training before camp starts and are told what it means to be “a good role model,” Young said. An anonymous, unconfirmed report describing a particular process of killing the dog and naming young Huckabee as a participant was sent by fax machine this week by an organization against cruelty to animals to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. That report was described by Young and the governor as inaccurate. Both men declined to say how the dog had been killed or who did it. The dog was killed July 11 at Camp Pioneer near Hatfield. Only employees witnessed the incident. Not many of them were on hand, one source said. Young said he chose not to reveal the names of the employees because “I just think that they’re due privacy. These are young people. They make mistakes occasionally, but I’m not covering for them.” Young said the council’s board gives him the authority to take care of personnel decisions. He said the council believes it took appropriate action and the matter is closed. He said he did not report it to law enforcement authorities. A source who asked to remain unnamed said David Huckabee, who turned 18 on July 22 and was 17 at the time of the incident, was one of those fired over it. A reporter’s message left at the Governor’s Mansion for David Huckabee was not returned. Danny Frady of Texarkana said his son, Clayton, 19, was the other staff member who was fired. The elder Frady said his son told him he came upon one or more Scouts who had the dog “hung over a limb and choking” so the younger Frady helped “put it out of its misery.” “I think the boy has paid his dues because he lost his job. He was one of the better counselors. He’s made a mistake, and he’s paid for it,” Danny Frady said. “I don’t think he did anything wrong to put an animal out of its misery.” Danny Frady said killing a stray dog that has become a nuisance is common in rural areas. The mistake was doing it in front of other youth staff members, Frady said. Young said the fired employees might be required to undergo counseling if they applied to be employees again. Danny Frady said he doesn’t think his son needs counseling because “he’s not cruel to animals.” Polk County Sheriff Mike Oglesby said neither he nor his deputies had heard of the incident. A complaint should have been made, he said. Prosecuting Attorney Tim Williamson of Mena said cruelty to animals is a Class A misdemeanor, punishable by up to a $ 1,000 fine and up to a year in jail. “We regularly charge cruelty to animals. That’s kind of my pet peeve,” he said. Oglesby and Williamson said they didn’t intend to investigate because no one had lodged a complaint. Camp Pioneer in Polk County served 2,026 campers for week-long stints from May 31 through July 25. The camp employed 65 staff members. Caddo Area Council includes eight Arkansas counties and two Texas counties. Dogster For The Love of Dog Blog » Archive » Presidential Candiate Mike Huckabee’s Son David Tortured and Killed Stray Dog in 1998, Charges Never Filed and Huckabee Not Punished Yep, there it is. If you still distrust the information, and you want the link, I suppose you could pay the archive fee usually charged by smaller newspapers. But it does appear the information is correct. The DogBlog is exonerated.

Well, no, DogBlog is not exonerated. Did it get permission to quote the article? Is the article factual or is it media spin? Of course, this isn't so much about DogBlog as it is about the media source that used DogBlog as a source for information.

[kubedawg]

Quote by: Chancellor Yes. It's like Time Magazine getting information for a story from Wikipedia. If it is true, then the information should be available from a credible source.

So you are saying that blogs aren't a credible source, compared to mainstream media? ARE YOU NUTS?

[Chancellor]

Quote by: kubedawg So you are saying that blogs aren't a credible source, compared to mainstream media? ARE YOU NUTS?

I'm saying that blogs are not a credible source. I'm not specifically comparing them to the media. However, to further clarify my position by adding more detail, I don't generally consider the media to be credible - and using blogs as a source of information further cements their lack of credibility.