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| Igneous Magma Posts: 327 | Quote:
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![]() Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,152 | Ahh, well if thats what your arguing, I'm afraid to say there arn't many 'anti-americans' and the brand you dislike. Most of us who get lumped into that category respect Americans (except for you all being burger munching couch potatoes...) and particularly the US Constitution. Even hardened commies would die alongside you fighting for freedom of speech. Its not our fault that there are people out there who like to jump onto the bandwagon. Mind you, if America really was a democracy, its government would be representative of its people. So the actions of its government are also the responsibility of the American people. This goes for every country. Just shows up how much of a sham our supposed demcracies are. Oh, and while were on the topic of stereotypes, I'd like to get a rant of my chest. I am British. I do not: drink tea and eat crumpets all day love, like or respect the royal family in any way speak with a drollllllllllllllllllliiing upper class accent. I sound more like the people from Trainspotting And most of all I do not know your friend John from London. I know we are a small country in comparison, but we don't all know each other. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill |
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 327 | Quote:
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![]() Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,152 | I hope so, but if there was a real democracy there would be the power of recall, and those people could be shifted now. I'm more worried about my own government. Theres no way I'm voting Labour after they sheepishly fell in line. Yeah some revolted but they have done little more than token jestures, knowing full well that the war would go ahead, meaning their objection could be dismissed. The Conservatives are worse than Labour, and I would vote them whatever their policies, they're right wing, I'm left. The Liberal Democrats, the only others left with a shot at government are political oppurtunists. Sure they're social democrat right now but they'll go whichever way the wind blows. That leaves me with the Socialist Alliance, disorganised and dominated by a Stalinist and bureaucratic SWP, the British National Party, neo-nazi scum, or the Green Party, in favour of reducing Britain to 20 million people. Excuse me, their are already 60 million of us, how are we gonna go to one third of that without sterilisation? Where the hell is my 'abstain' box. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill |
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| Igneous Magma Location: Sydney,Australia. Posts: 333 | Speaking from Australias minor part in the coming world war, we have nothing to lose by backing America, they have always stood by us and we by them, because we are basically the same in a lot of ways, so it is natural whether the cause is right or wrong for similar cultures to band together if they are being threatened. I make no accusations or offer apologys for Americas covert actions since Teddy Roosevelt to now in world affairs, everything is done for a reason. In the coming years you will experience what your ancestors went through in WW2. |
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![]() Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,152 | That doesn't mean its right, and that doesn't mean we as the public shouldn't do everything we can to stop it happening again. However I do agree another world war is on the way. Another Imperial age is coming into fruition, which just means another violent collapse. Lets just everyone learns their lessons this time, rather than a certain WASP nation bankrupting britain before it would help, demanding all our atomic energy secrets or stop protecting our food supplies over the atlantic, or waiting untill the enemy was on the verge of economic collapse before coming to Europe. But this time, where is the other superpowers? Before their was the USA, USSR, GB, Germany and Japan. This time there is only the USA. This time its going to be the USA (government, not all the people of the USA you finnicky arguers) versus the people of the world, demanding their freedom from the yoke of corporations, SUV's and mcdonalds. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill |
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![]() Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,152 | Well yes perhaps it has. World War II really began in world war 1, or even earlier perhaps. But for a WWIII, there has to actually be somebody opposing the superpower. Untill there is some sort of organisation between the people of the world to oppose US aggression, there'll be no real war. Massacre and oppression perhaps, but no war. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill |
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| Igneous Magma Location: Sydney,Australia. Posts: 333 | I think what is coming and is already here, is basically just a total collapse in World affairs, wars are just going to be part of it, you can get out there in the street and scream protests and blame everything and everyone for the mess we are in untill your hoarse, but it won't do anything good, if anything you will just make a juicy target. |
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![]() Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,152 | Well if this is true, now is the time to tool up and organise the revolution. Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill |
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| Igneous Magma Location: Sydney,Australia. Posts: 333 | The revolution? I trust you mean we overthrow all western governments, set up Communist ones in their place, and then all join up together to fight Islamic fundementalist nations? Or maybe we all just lie around in the parks of the no longer functioning cities after the revolution (that you will bravely be in the frontline of I take it), and smoke Dope, and hope those nasty fundementalists don't ever come over. |
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| Igneous Magma Location: Sydney,Australia. Posts: 333 | Quote:
above reasons for war is a touch extreme? I mean even if the whole present world order collapsed, in its place would not be peace as you as we all do wish, there would be utter chaos on an order of magnitude that would make the fall of the Roman Empire look pretty damn small. Then naturally as always new powers would emerge and they would pretty much do as they damn well please. | |
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| Igneous Magma Location: Northeastern, USA Posts: 606 | Quote:
Of course, my weapon of choice would be education. | |
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| Avatar of Tiamut Location: Dallas, Texas (Irving) Posts: 848 | Three things only, I have no reason to stay and sling mud around. #1 Quote:
#2 I also enjoyed the individual that went on about America being educated by the media when Europe knows little more about America than it hears on the telly either. Ignorance is common in both directions. #3 If you want to judge an Americans intelligence, why not use me, I think I can represent myself well enough. :) But start another topic if you want to do this, I am not going to post in this silly free-for-all after this. | |
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| Sedimentary Rock Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 19 | Quote:
I think it's wrong in itself to tell someone they cannot be extreme. I'm a black and white believer. I either love it or I hate it. It's that way with what I believe in too- if I care enough to believe in it, I care enough to fight and die for it. I'm not interested in a system that defines a social norm and dictates from that. What a bland and brainwashed lifestyle one would have to lead under that line of thinking. | |
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| Igneous Magma Location: Northeastern, USA Posts: 606 | I personally do not believe there is a "norm". Moderation is the key.IMO I myself, do not see things as black or white. As far as who decides...WE DECIDE! Our human nature allows compromise as well as competition. Extremism begins to threaten when several extreme groups become one. That is what has happened. Bland and brainwashed lifestyle, you say? Don't most religions try to define social norms? It is the Religious and Political Extremists who have teamed up with the big Corporations and are imposing their brand of social "norms" on the rest of the world. Eventually they will destroy each other.(they always do) Our fight--or MY fight is to speed up that process. |
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| Igneous Magma Location: Sydney,Australia. Posts: 333 | Quote:
How many numbers are what is most important, unfortunately this would never work for pacifists, as it would take only one agro guy with an AK to wipe them all out. People who want to create chaos in society such as lie in's in a public place, chucking marbles under police horses or attacking politicians with cream pies are pretty much misguided and bored people. | |
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