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View Poll Results: What do you want to change in the next Presidental election?
A change in how to win the war in Iraq. 1 25.00%
A change to end the war in Iraq. 3 75.00%
A change overall from Republican to Democratic polices. 1 25.00%
A change in the health care system. 3 75.00%
A change in how the Federal Government operates. 3 75.00%
A change in how social programs are managed. 2 50.00%
A change in the image of America globally. 2 50.00%
A change in how to deal with terrorism. 2 50.00%
A change in our current immigration policy. 3 75.00%
A change in tax collection. 1 25.00%
A change is how the Federal budget is managed. 2 50.00%
A change in oil dependancy. 2 50.00%
Little or not changes at all. 0 0%
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Old Nov 2, 2007, 11:49 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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The "change" - who said so?

It is clear most people in all parties are unhappy with how Bush is managing things, especially in Iraq.

When the Democrats got back an edge of control in Congress in the last election they made a claim that the voters were expressing that they wanted a "change". That sort of become their motto during these primary elections. But only because they said so, with little evidence in what all that might mean, other then replacing Bush with someone else.

The news media then picked up on the new Demcratic calim that people want change. And now the rest of us have accepted that as some kind of "fact", and have applied that to all sorts of issues and topics.

So to avoid getting carred away by some massive brainwashing "projection" of voter opinions I thought another poll would be useful, to find out what people here think. (wish I could conduct polls with more people responding, but will have to make due with what happens here for time being ).

Please pick an option - thanks.

Debate as you might wish under "comments" also.

You can vote for as many options as you please. I left room for two write-in options.
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Old Nov 2, 2007, 12:22 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Two welcome changes from ANY partisan group in power I would welcome:

1)Actually enforcing Constitutional laws on the books currently.

2)Removing unconstitutional laws on the books currently.

I have little faith that either major party can provide those two "changes", as they are both the biggest offenders in both cases.

The "welcome change" in this case, would be extricating them from office for people (hopefully not parties) that have intrests in assuring citizens have faith in law, government and justice, and the reason that is, is because the two major parties have been CONSISTENTLY OVER TIME working toward a goal of complete concentration of power in central government, against the will of the people.


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Old Nov 2, 2007, 02:42 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Two welcome changes from ANY partisan group in power I would welcome:

1)Actually enforcing Constitutional laws on the books currently.

2)Removing unconstitutional laws on the books currently.

I have little faith that either major party can provide those two "changes", as they are both the biggest offenders in both cases.

The "welcome change" in this case, would be extricating them from office for people (hopefully not parties) that have intrests in assuring citizens have faith in law, government and justice, and the reason that is, is because the two major parties have been CONSISTENTLY OVER TIME working toward a goal of complete concentration of power in central government, against the will of the people.
You could have voted for the option "to change how the federal government operates".

How come you do not want your opinon represented in a poll?
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Old Nov 2, 2007, 03:11 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I voted for all but two.


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