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View Poll Results: Which of following should you income taxes be spent for.
To improve air and water quality domestically. 5 41.67%
To spread democracy world wide. 2 16.67%
To develope alternatives for fosil fuels. 8 66.67%
To win the war in Iraq. 2 16.67%
To capture or kill Bin Laden. 4 33.33%
To protect our boarders from undocumented entry. 5 41.67%
To explore for more oil within our boarders. 0 0%
To create a better health care system for everyone. 5 41.67%
To upgrade bridges, highways, and public transportation. 8 66.67%
To create better public education. 8 66.67%
To police the world with our military. 2 16.67%
To support scientific research and the space program. 6 50.00%
To upgrade homeland security to prevent terrorism. 6 50.00%
To prevent more global warming. 4 33.33%
To reduce domestic crime. 8 66.67%
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 09:47 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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How should your Federal Income taxes be spent?

Although some would advoate getting rid of the IRS and federal income taxes the fact remains that we currently must pay them, so for what purposes do you want the money spent?

In this poll select the expendatures you feel are the most important and which are best for America. You can vote for as many as you wish or just pick out the few at the top of your list.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 09:54 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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pay down our foreign-held debt, support our national infrastructure, secure our borders/ports, finance entitlement programs in the absence of true reform.


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Old Oct 17, 2007, 10:05 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Like it or not the money that you're paying in taxes in the U.S. is being used to kill people.

Simple and plain fact.

How do you feel about that?

What can you do about it?
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 10:09 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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pay down our foreign-held debt, support our national infrastructure, secure our borders/ports, finance entitlement programs in the absence of true reform.
This poll is would represent what to spend money on less what would be earmarked to pay down past debts. I am not sure what "entitlement programs" are. I got the boarder patrol one on list.

Wish I could have added more selections but only could put 15 max in poll. (so went with some of the most popular ones that are most often debated about according to my observations ).

Hmm? I forgot about giving Congress as pay raise!
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 10:12 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Like it or not the money that you're paying in taxes in the U.S. is being used to kill people.

Simple and plain fact.

How do you feel about that?

What can you do about it?
Donate to the Red Cross?

You can NOT vote for the Iraq war or the other military objectives in the poll, and that would reflect your viewpoints I think.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 10:15 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Feel free to create your own "part two" poll about Federal Income tax expendatures. Add another 15 selections but try to include choices you do not want money spent on to get a useful result.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 10:27 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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I am not sure what "entitlement programs" are.
you're joking, right???

social security and medicare are both entitlement programs, as all americans are entitled to receive services provided by those programs.


and, it seems that you're attempting to minimize the significance/importance of paying down our foreign-held debt. this is vital to our national interests, far more than the many of your poll's items.


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Old Oct 17, 2007, 12:02 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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you're joking, right???

social security and medicare are both entitlement programs, as all americans are entitled to receive services provided by those programs.


and, it seems that you're attempting to minimize the significance/importance of paying down our foreign-held debt. this is vital to our national interests, far more than the many of your poll's items.
Right after I read your post I attempted to change one of the poll options to include the budget issue for paying down the debt but apparently we cannot edit a poll once it is posted. Being that people have started to vote it is too late to do that now via a monitor.

It just goes to reason that if they create a debt they must pay it back, they somehow hope to do that if the population becomes larger in the next generation. That is what the bankers are banking on when they took the risk to loan the government money. I wish them the best of luck. If they raise the minimum wage then the amount that can be collected from income taxes would become greater, allowing for more in-put to pay down past debts. It would seem ill-logical that Congress and others involved in creating debts would not have a plan already established to pay off the debt, as most bills are apporved of if they and when the proposals show how they can be paid for (without raising taxes) and so they need to follow thourgh on that established plan, or go bankrupt like anyone else who miss-manages their credit card.

So I am not sure what your point is about past debts?

Medicare would be included under the choice of a better health care system.

And SS payments are deducted seperately from income taxes as far as I know. Although I could use a raise because my $622.00 SS check per month is not enough to cover the basic cost of living.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 06:51 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Is there a visual political dashboard (like google analytics) that tells you the sources of money, and breaks it up into where all the money is going?


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Old Oct 17, 2007, 09:30 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Public Transit, Education, and Crime prevention are the current top 3. Interesting.


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Old Oct 17, 2007, 10:17 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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I voted for the usual tree-hugging student-educating kid-with-cancer-chemo-giving hippie liberal collection of ideals, and also spreading democracy and counterterrorism. I'd be rather critical if that counterterrorism system is used in ways that infringe upon the legal system of the U.S. and by spreading democracy I mean a poisonous miasma of liberty and capitalism similar to what wafted over the Soviets and brought about their demise. Under no circumstances should we start or perpetuate wars for democracy where we can't get and keep the citizens on our side.


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Old Oct 17, 2007, 10:27 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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There shouldn't be Federal income taxes on wages earned inside the borders of the US.
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Old Oct 17, 2007, 11:09 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Public Transit, Education, and Crime prevention are the current top 3. Interesting.
And now ' Developing alternatives for fosil fuel gaining speed for 3rd place.
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Old Oct 18, 2007, 03:06 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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The results so far on this poll is VERY interesting, not what I expected especially concerning roadways and bridges and public transportation.

The street running next to my house has no pot holes, it is just a old time drit road.

We have no sewer system running to our house so we have a septic tank burried in our yard.

Our street has no city "lamp posts" to illuminate the street, we must provide our own lighting for out front.

Livin' the the boondocks is nice however, and you could not get me into one of those fancy gated communities with all those goodies, not anymore.

One person on our street has a broken down car in his yard, another one has weeds growing instead of grass, I have a old fishing boat in my front yard. This is great because no one from some city department is on our case. We got property rights out here. In fact I am just outside the city limits.

Down on the main drag (two way interstate highway) is a Harley motorcycle store and a Mexcan mom and pop store for food items.
A Irish bar and a hamburger place called 'rollin-on'. (not a chain store in site). Unless you drive six miles to the nearest freeway exits.

And the old 1920s meneral hot springs bath house is still standing.

The bikers hang out at Hell's Kitchen which is a famous place to eat at.

We have a store that sells only Native Ameican things. Mainstreet is about three blocks long, with a key shop, three antique stores, a used book store, a few places to eat at, a clothing store, a herb store, a small public musem (for local area).

Each Saturday they close the street for speical events, like the vintage car parade, the 'art walk' for locals to display their wares, and stuff like that.

Then a ways away they got a small airport so people can go sky diving and where they hold motor bike racing events.

A campground with lake fishing, trailer parks, houses, farms, pottery shops, and even a place to buy spy and home security stuff. and empty fields inbetween everything.

Even girls who still hitch hike.

So all that other stuff that poltics worry about is like in another land, not hear in the heart of America which is still remote and where you can still walk down dirt roads instead of speeding down the freeways.
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Old Oct 18, 2007, 10:54 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Man, another post like this....

I will quote Bishop, and suffice with that.

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pay down our foreign-held debt, support our national infrastructure, secure our borders/ports, finance entitlement programs in the absence of true reform.


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Old Oct 18, 2007, 04:09 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Although some would advoate getting rid of the IRS and federal income taxes the fact remains that we currently must pay them, so for what purposes do you want the money spent?

In this poll select the expendatures you feel are the most important and which are best for America. You can vote for as many as you wish or just pick out the few at the top of your list.
Where's the "none of the above" option? Where's the option for "only those things that specifically fall within the constitutional purview of the federal government"?


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Old Oct 18, 2007, 10:25 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Where's the "none of the above" option? Where's the option for "only those things that specifically fall within the constitutional purview of the federal government"?
That is in my Part Two poll.

I did not put "none of the above" because it would only prove that most people do not wish to pay any taxes at all. But you gotta pay income taxes and so the point is - what to spend the money on?
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Old Oct 19, 2007, 01:02 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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There shouldn't be Federal income taxes on wages earned inside the borders of the US.
Lets find out what people think about that. See new poll posted.
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Old Oct 19, 2007, 03:02 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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That is in my Part Two poll.

I did not put "none of the above" because it would only prove that most people do not wish to pay any taxes at all. But you gotta pay income taxes and so the point is - what to spend the money on?
Well, if you repeal the 16th amendment, you might not have to pay income taxes.


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Old Oct 20, 2007, 02:37 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Well, if you repeal the 16th amendment, you might not have to pay income taxes.
Then you would be paying much higher state income taxes or sales taxes, and so it is pointless to repeal the 16 amendment. They make amendments for important reasons and if we make them and repeal them every four years then you might as well not even have that option.
You want Congress to end up like John Kerry flip flopping amendments like pancakes everytime a different political party gains control? I don't think so.

But thanks for the bad idea anyway, a good try but not practical at this time.

First you say if we want change we must create a new amendment in the Consitution and then you turn around and say we need to repeal the amendments that allow for change, make up your mind Kiddo.
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