Are the people of Idaho really this ignorant?

[Osborn F Enready]

I can't believe the people of Idaho have not removed by impeachment Larry Craig, yet.

There are talks of "expelling him" from his seat, in the Senate.

Are the people in Idaho that "busy" that they can't take the time to impeach this lying fool?

[Jack]

Are the people of Idaho really this ignorant?

Having spent 13 years there, I'm tempted to say yes.

The Associated Press: Sen. Craig to Join Idaho Hall of Fame

[Osborn F Enready]

I love Idaho, the land, and I was in awe of Idahos natural beauty, especially up north.

I am greatly saddened at the people of Idahos ability to recognize the need for impeaching Craig.

Not for his actions before being accused, as much as his false promises and lies that occurred AFTER he was accused, and awaiting trial, and after his trial, including the "re-hearing" if his argument that "he didn't know what he was doing" BS.

I used to think I would love to live in Couer de' Lane area, but now that I see what is happening and the "lack of reaction" from the people, I don't think I yearn to live there as much as I once thought.

Montana and New Hampshire are looking much better to me now.

[Suburbanite]

Maybe he accurately represents people form Idaho?

[Osborn F Enready]

I find that hard to believe, from the Idahoans I have had the pleasure of knowing.

[Jack]

The land in Idaho is indeed beautiful. The people, on the other hand, can be weird. White Supremacists in the North and fundamental Mormons in the South...woof.

I should get my little brother, who still lives in Idaho, to chime in here. He'd have a lot to say about the people and politics of the state. He works for the state (probation officer) so he's pretty opinionated about it.

[Sandy]

On what grounds would Idaho impeach Craig? Disorderly conduct?

Are you so eager to take down a possible homosexual that you would start a trend to impeach all of them? I that what this forum has become?

[Night]

Quote by: Sandy On what grounds would Idaho impeach Craig? Disorderly conduct? Are you so eager to take down a possible homosexual that you would start a trend to impeach all of them? I that what this forum has become?

As a homosexual myself, I think he completely deserves to be impeached...

He has voted for several anti-homosexual legislations in the senate, especially against gay marriage. What a hypocrite.

[Osborn F Enready]

Sandy said: On what grounds would Idaho impeach Craig?

Being guilty of a crime while in office, and then obviously trying to pander himself out of it. Wasting the courts time with trying to remove his guilty plea. Making public his intent to "stepdown" and then, "changing his mind".

The guy exhibits all the characteristics of a corrupt career criminal...err, I mean, politician, and he is a stain on our national government, as well as the state.

Sandy said: Disorderly conduct?

Come on....

This has nothing to do with what actually happened in the bathroom. It has everything to do with what happened afterward.

Sandy said: Are you so eager to take down a possible homosexual that you would start a trend to impeach all of them?

Are you kidding me?

I have nothing against homosexuals, and have argued for gay and lesbian rights as much as, or more than some gays and lesibians.

I would resent that, but I think its clear I hold no grudge against gays, of either gender.

Sandy said: I that what this forum has become?

I expected a little more from you Sandy, but... maybe you just watched a little too much news today, and aren't thinking clearly.

[The Decider]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready I can't believe the people of Idaho have not removed by impeachment Larry Craig, yet. There are talks of "expelling him" from his seat, in the Senate. Are the people in Idaho that "busy" that they can't take the time to impeach this lying fool?

"Impeachment" of congressmen is a federal process conducted by the US Congress, not the states. The House of Representatives can impeach congress members, but I think it only happened once or twice in US history and the US Supreme Court reversed the Senate's conviction on the grounds that congressional personnel are not "civil Officers of the United States."

Idaho is one of 18 states with a recall provision, but it's limited to state officials. No US senator, to my knowledge, has ever been recalled.

The only option left is a Senate Ethics investigation. If the US Senate wants to boot Craig, it can. But the Republican minority is already having second thoughts about a public ethics hearing and a rehash of all the gay bathroom details as an election year approaches. At most, Craig will be censured.

U.S. Senate: Art & History Home > Historical Minutes > 1787-1800 > To Arrest an Impeached Senator

Overview of Recall Provisions

[Osborn F Enready]

The people of any state, can demand by petition the removal of ANY state representatives.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready The people of any state, can demand by petition the removal of ANY state representatives.

It should be our aim to remove them all, really. They never should have been there in the first place.

Grandpa h.

[Osborn F Enready]

Well Gramps, I am not anti-state, or anti-law, or anti-government, so I don't agree.

I do agree we should remove ALL the seated politicians who voted for the Patriot Act, on the grounds of gross negligence in protecting their constituents legal individual rights.

[Technosoul]

They should just let him work off this crime doing public service work, like mopping floors in all the park restrooms. Then drop the matter.

But it is Idaho which is home of the potato heads. So what did you expect?

But they need to change the name of that state because in New York you can say "Ida" but you cannot say "ho" anymore, due to latest sex word taboo.

Poor Santa, he better not visit New York this year.

Which sums up what I think about this whole topic... ho ho ho.

And what did Ida ho boys? A Maryland. Aka - Gayland.

[The Decider]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready The people of any state, can demand by petition the removal of ANY state representatives.

Please provide a source for this opinion.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Well Gramps, I am not anti-state, or anti-law, or anti-government, so I don't agree. I do agree we should remove ALL the seated politicians who voted for the Patriot Act, on the grounds of gross negligence in protecting their constituents legal individual rights.

Again, I disagree. We shouldn't want any "representative" politicians, or anyone to carry any such power at all. We shouldn't expect people who restrict us, who rule us, who throw is in jail or see as expendable, to respect our conceptions of "individual rights." They can only mock our ideals, which only we can realize through our direct means. Otherwise we're just subordinate, having our rights divvied out to us from people who often behave like the worst criminals (power corrupts).

Grandpa h.

[grandpa]

Quote by: The Decider Please provide a source for this opinion.

This is just silly. Basic logic implies that, regardless of any other source.

Grandpa h.

[The Decider]

Quote by: grandpa This is just silly. Basic logic implies that, regardless of any other source. Grandpa h.

Huh? If a US Senator can be removed by a petition, I would like to see proof of that claim. Your inability to provide it is more than silly--it's lame.

[grandpa]

Quote by: The Decider Huh? If a US Senator can be removed by a petition, I would like to see proof of that claim.

If a US Senator, or anyone else in a position of power, is unpopular enough, the people can remove him/her.
It doesn't matter what laws are in existence, what precedents. It just can be done.

Grandpa h.

[The Decider]

Quote by: grandpa If a US Senator, or anyone else in a position of power, is unpopular enough, the people can remove him/her. It doesn't matter what laws are in existence, what precedents. It just can be done. Grandpa h.

Is this law according to Grandpa? Please show evidence that ANY US official has been removed by popular petition. If you can't, admit that you can't and move on.