The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy

[thx1138]

Documentary 'The Israel lobby - The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy'

Documentary 'The Israel lobby - The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy'

This new ... all » documentary (April 2007) was created as a result of the controversy created by Mearsheimer and Walt's "The Israel Lobby" article. Featuring interviews with Mearsheimer, geostrategist Lawrence Wikerson, Richard Perle, historian and critic Tony Judt, John Hagee, former Congressman Earl Hilliard, Kenneth Roth of Human Rights Watch, Michael Massing and Daniel Levy.

'Tegenlicht' ('Backlight') is a program from the Dutch VPRO public television

[thx1138]

Nobody has had time to watch this yet? ... not even are friend from Israel?

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: thx1138 Nobody has had time to watch this yet?

OK, I just watched this, and as expected, it's quite disturbung in my opinion.


Another illustration of the legtimacy of the call for revolt. Not only because of the power of the lobby, but also because we can see it's entrenched in both politcal parties.


Notable politicians I saw schmoozing for the schmere include Barak Obama, George "Wiretap" Bush, Dick "Darth Redacto" Cheney, Nancy Pelosi, Bill Richardson, John Negroponte, and of course the reluctant Colin Powell.

Quote by: thx1138 ... not even are friend from Israel?

What, expecting a visit from Volconvos own Alan Dershowitz?

[Osborn F Enready]

Thanks for posting it THX. I also watched it.

Not much there I didn't know, but its always nice to see more material presenting the case, since its so rarely addressed, discussed or debated.

[jose]

Quote by: thx1138 Documentary 'The Israel lobby - The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy' Documentary 'The Israel lobby - The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy' This new ... all » documentary (April 2007) was created as a result of the controversy created by Mearsheimer and Walt's "The Israel Lobby" article. Featuring interviews with Mearsheimer, geostrategist Lawrence Wikerson, Richard Perle, historian and critic Tony Judt, John Hagee, former Congressman Earl Hilliard, Kenneth Roth of Human Rights Watch, Michael Massing and Daniel Levy. 'Tegenlicht' ('Backlight') is a program from the Dutch VPRO public television

sorry for not replying before, but i thought most people knew this.
you wont get many comments from the pro-israeli gang, as they never debate unless they can set the agenda, the israeli-firsters would rather you not watch or hear about these truths

[notworthabean]

No Jose thats not true, But i've debated this mutlitpe itmes before, and its just not intereasting to debate again. Yes AIPAC is a well run lobby that appeals to a large section of american politicans. So what?

[Osborn F Enready]

So what?

Why does a foreign nation have a political lobby in my nation?

[shrike]

Why does a foreign nation have a political lobby in my nation

Why this people ask this question only about AIPAC and not about other lobbies?

[notworthabean]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready So what? Why does a foreign nation have a political lobby in my nation?

It doesn't, Israel doesn't run AIPAC, Americans do. These Americans advocate on an issue just like NRA and Planned parenthood et al do.

better comparsion: Cuban Americans who advocate polices on Cuba. I don't see anyone getting all huffy about that.

[shrike]

This documentary that based on book that full of distortions and lies. Here are a few reviews from various people from right and left.
An Ongoing Conversation » “Sheer Recklessness” - Leonard Fein on Mearsheimer & Walt’s “The Israel Lobby”
The Israel Lobby is an Act of Intimidation
Michael Gerson - Seeds of Anti-Semitism - washingtonpost.com
The Israel Lobby's mistake. - By Ron Rosenbaum - Slate Magazine

Its interesting that one of main supporters of the book is David Duke you have a good ally here.

[Rainbow]

Quote by: thx1138 The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy Documentary 'The Israel lobby - The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy' Documentary 'The Israel lobby - The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy' This new ... all » documentary (April 2007) was created as a result of the controversy created by Mearsheimer and Walt's "The Israel Lobby" article. Featuring interviews with Mearsheimer, geostrategist Lawrence Wikerson, Richard Perle, historian and critic Tony Judt, John Hagee, former Congressman Earl Hilliard, Kenneth Roth of Human Rights Watch, Michael Massing and Daniel Levy. 'Tegenlicht' ('Backlight') is a program from the Dutch VPRO public television

I watched that video-clip.
Here, it is my reply :
- have all the U.S. Presidents (along with notable politicians) had an access to so-called "Area-51" ?
- have you omitted "PatriotAct" ?

[thx1138]

This documentary that based on book that full of distortions and lies. Here are a few reviews from various people from right and left.

You can see both right and left do their lip service to AIPAC that shows they're on the same side of this issue.

I don't think any lobby should have this kind of influence over politics in any country it is corruption. Whether it's Banking lobbies, Phamasuitical, Oil industry, or the NRA, if they have huge pep rallies like this with both sides of the aisle then that is too much influence.

Why should large lobby groups have more access time then small ones?

[shrike]

You can see both right and left do their lip service to AIPAC that shows they're on the same side of this issue

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It’s not a lip service it a facts that this book fool of lies and distortions. Did you read the reviews?

I don't think any lobby should have this kind of influence over politics in any country it is corruption. Whether it's Banking lobbies, Phamasuitical, Oil industry, or the NRA, if they have huge pep rallies like this with both sides of the aisle then that is too much influence.

What bothers that there is no documentaries at Dutch television about all this lobbies that you mentioned its adds up very well with various anti-Semitic theories that embraced by various Anti-Semites like David Duke.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: shrike with various anti-Semitic theories that embraced by various Anti-Semites like David Duke.

I have never heard David Duke say anything negative about Arabs.

[shrike]

I have never heard David Duke say anything negative about Arabs

Nice red herring:rolleyes:

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: shrike Nice red herring:rolleyes:

Arabs are semitic. So if one is going to throw terms like anti-semitic around, one should be prepared to get called on it.


The claim of anti-semitism is the single biggest red herring ever created.

[shrike]

Arabs are semitic. So if one is going to throw terms like anti-semitic around, one should be prepared to get called on it. The claim of anti-semitism is the single biggest red herring ever created.

Well you didn't answer my argument because you have nothing to answer so instead you try to derail the debate with semantic red herrings.
But I will play in you little game but first answer me when someone says that he is hates America what country he means Chile or Mexico?

When thousounds of Muslims chant death to America they mean Brazil right?

[shrike]

Also while you answer my questions don't forget to look at
Misnomer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Maybe it will help you.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: shrike answer me when someone says that he is hates America what country he means Chile or Mexico?

Quote by: shrike When thousounds of Muslims chant death to America they mean Brazil right?

Trying to justify one red herring with another is ludicrous. Preposterous.


I would think somebody fighting for truth, and justice would want clarity on the issue. Instead you choose to label people with one of the worst labels you could possibly pin on a person knowing it's disingenuous to the core.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: shrike Also while you answer my questions don't forget to look at Misnomer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Maybe it will help you.

Ha!


That's hardly a misnomer, it's a damn lie is what it is.


Now if you could demonstrate how the person you are attempting to apply this label to loathes both Arabs, and Jews, then that term would be valid.