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Bigkhan · Jun 20, 2004, 06:42 pm

Let's see what every one thinks.

PatrickHenry · Jun 20, 2004, 08:07 pm

Franklin D Roosevelt. A tyrant if America ever had one.

Young · Jun 21, 2004, 12:37 am

Bush Sr. hands down...if not for Johnson having JFK killed.

Young

Jun 21, 2004, 03:20 am

FDR. By far.

With LBJ, Lincoln, and Nixon in close competition for a distant second.

Compugasm · Jun 21, 2004, 04:20 am

Carter. 12% or so inflation.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:35 pm

Definately Carter. The American Embassy was raided in Iran by radicals and he refused to negotiate or use force. The day Reagon was elected the soldiers and civilians were rescued. He appointed liberal judges, upsize federal government, downsized military, all and all a normal liberal.

dotcoma · Jun 21, 2004, 04:36 pm

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The day Reagon was elected the soldiers and civilians were rescued

And do you have any idea why? Sheesh....

dotcoma · Jun 21, 2004, 04:37 pm

I'm gonna go with George Blinton.

bishop · Jun 21, 2004, 04:37 pm

i wish i could've voted for more... i chose lbj.

bankrupt the country - single-handedly responsible for dropping the gold standard.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:39 pm

Johnson was my second choice, really close those two. Johnson tripled the size of the federal government.

PatrickHenry · Jun 21, 2004, 04:41 pm

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Originally posted by theophysics,
Definately Carter. The American Embassy was raided in Iran by radicals and he refused to negotiate or use force. The day Reagon was elected the soldiers and civilians were rescued. He appointed liberal judges, upsize federal government, downsized military, all and all a normal liberal.

You are mistaken in almost every statement above. You need to source this. Not your opinion of who was the worst, that's just you. The statements an negotiation, force, date of hostage release, etc.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:42 pm

My parents lived through it, but I'll see what I can find.

bishop · Jun 21, 2004, 04:46 pm

how exactly can clinton be the worst amongst this list???

Jun 21, 2004, 04:47 pm

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0825448.html

There you go, found the article with less SPIN on it.

dotcoma · Jun 21, 2004, 04:49 pm

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how exactly can clinton be the worst amongst this list???

Nuclear reactors to NK. Super computers to China in exchange for campaign contributions. NAFTA. The coverup at Mena. Pardoning of international drug traffikers while Jo Bro sits in prison for a rock or two. Should I continue?

Jun 21, 2004, 04:51 pm

It's hard for me to say without putting some serious time and research into it. I won't say Carter because he at least had honor and integrity. The man was honest to a fault and that's worth something even if he didn't do a good job with the presidency.

Personally I'd probably have JFK near the top of the list of worst presidents. The only truly noteworthy thing he ever did was get shot. No meaningful legislation was passed in his tenure if I'm not mistaken, all he did was give some cool speeches and look pretty.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:55 pm

Oh, come on.

Cuban.

Missile.

Crisis.

bishop · Jun 21, 2004, 04:57 pm

does that make him the worst though?

did you vote for clinton?

other presidents have done some very bad things themselves. clinton's no angel, but he's also not in the company of angels.

dotcoma · Jun 21, 2004, 04:58 pm

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Originally posted by bishop,
does that make him the worst though?

did you vote for clinton?

other presidents have done some very bad things themselves. clinton's no angel, but he's also not in the company of angels.

Right, so he's not to be excluded.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:59 pm

I'm surprised no one's come back at me and said "LINCOLN, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!" for my pick for second worst...

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Ronald Reagan	5	18.52%
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Jun 20, 2004, 08:07 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437	Franklin D Roosevelt. A tyrant if America ever had one. "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Jun 21, 2004, 12:37 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Young Hot Lava Location: western NC Posts: 1,088	Bush Sr. hands down...if not for Johnson having JFK killed. Young Young I guess all we've got Left......are these darned "Internets"

Jun 21, 2004, 04:20 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,643	Carter. 12% or so inflation. I'd like to thank Charlie Hodge, bringing me scarves and water.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:37 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	i wish i could've voted for more... i chose lbj. bankrupt the country - single-handedly responsible for dropping the gold standard. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Jun 20, 2004, 06:42 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Bigkhan Sedimentary Rock Posts: 22	Let's see what every one thinks.

Jun 21, 2004, 03:20 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
KSoDBartman Guest Posts: n/a	FDR. By far. With LBJ, Lincoln, and Nixon in close competition for a distant second.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:35 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
theophysics Guest Posts: n/a	Definately Carter. The American Embassy was raided in Iran by radicals and he refused to negotiate or use force. The day Reagon was elected the soldiers and civilians were rescued. He appointed liberal judges, upsize federal government, downsized military, all and all a normal liberal.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:37 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	I'm gonna go with George Blinton.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:39 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
theophysics Guest Posts: n/a	Johnson was my second choice, really close those two. Johnson tripled the size of the federal government.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:42 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
theophysics Guest Posts: n/a	My parents lived through it, but I'll see what I can find.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:46 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	how exactly can clinton be the worst amongst this list??? hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Jun 21, 2004, 04:47 pm	#14 (permalink) (top)
theophysics Guest Posts: n/a	http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0825448.html There you go, found the article with less SPIN on it.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:51 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
Kevin Johnson Guest Posts: n/a	It's hard for me to say without putting some serious time and research into it. I won't say Carter because he at least had honor and integrity. The man was honest to a fault and that's worth something even if he didn't do a good job with the presidency. Personally I'd probably have JFK near the top of the list of worst presidents. The only truly noteworthy thing he ever did was get shot. No meaningful legislation was passed in his tenure if I'm not mistaken, all he did was give some cool speeches and look pretty.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:55 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
KSoDBartman Guest Posts: n/a	Oh, come on. Cuban. Missile. Crisis.

Jun 21, 2004, 04:57 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	does that make him the worst though? did you vote for clinton? other presidents have done some very bad things themselves. clinton's no angel, but he's also not in the company of angels. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Jun 21, 2004, 04:59 pm	#20 (permalink) (top)
KSoDBartman Guest Posts: n/a	I'm surprised no one's come back at me and said "LINCOLN, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!" for my pick for second worst...