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FMeekins · Jun 19, 2004, 07:32 am

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A few weeks ago at Wallace Presbyterian Church where I occasionally attend, a member returning from a tour of duty in Iraq briefly addressed the congregation about his experience in the theater of conflict. Most interesting of his comments was his observation of how the media is only telling part of the story by focusing almost exclusively on the violent malcontents.

Rather, this returning serviceman remarked how many of the Iraqis he dealt with were happy to have the American military there, especially those amongst the Christian population we seldom hear about. He also told the congregation about how many Iraqis were eager to attend worship services on the base where he was stationed but whose numbers had to be limited for security reasons. If U.S. forces were such brutal occupiers as the media would have the American people believe, I doubt Iraqis would come sing Christmas Carols to U.S. troops as described by this soldier.

The brief testimony was informative and caused one to reflect upon the disparity between what is going on over there and the spin put on it by those in the establishment media propagating a competing foreign policy vision. More importantly, such an observation causes one to wonder why the media would forego its solemn obligation to provide a comprehensive summary of events in favor of the same take on things embraced by anti-American thugs and malcontents.

Could it be internationalists in the media actually want the terrorists to prevail in order to undermine America’s predominance in world affairs in favor of global agencies and institutions more in line with their socialistic agenda? They hope to accomplish their goal in part by creating sympathy for the very fanatics who share their goal of destroying Western Christendom.

Thing is, though, the laws of revolution dictate that eventually those seizing power will eventually turn on and consume their vocal advocates in the intelligentsia. Those rooting for the terrorist rabble would be among the first eliminated and their livelihood’s based upon the free propagation of ideas abolished should these fanatics ever come to power. (Apart from permitting multiple wives, I guess Islamist rule is not without a few other benefits.)

The events taking place at Abu Gahrib Prison won’t be recorded as the proudest moment in U.S. military history. But neither do such unfortunate incidents characterize all Iraqi encounters with American armed forces. For some kind of amicable reporte has had to be established arising from kindness on the part of Americans if civilized Iraqis are clamoring to participate in our troops’ chapel services.

Copyright 2004 by

Frederick Meekins

American WorldView Dispatch
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Gorgo · Jun 19, 2004, 08:20 am

Yeah, I think the Pentagon pays these guys to come back and sell the war. We had one come back and talk and basically said that the reasons the administration said they were going to war was all wrong, but that it was okay because the US put Saddam in power, and it was up to them to take them out.

Here's what Iraqis think:

http://www.fair.org/press-releases/i...acy-polls.html

PatrickHenry · Jun 19, 2004, 11:52 am

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Originally posted by FMeekins,
the media actually want the terrorists to prevail in order to undermine America’s predominance in world affairs in favor of global agencies and institutions more in line with their socialistic agenda? They hope to accomplish their goal in part by creating sympathy for the very fanatics who share their goal of destroying Western Christendom.

I have a few problems with your post, FM. It doesn't conform to the etiquette is one:

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if you're new, reply to other topics before you start posting up new one's (it's just courtesy).

Furthermore, you should have edited the html out of your post, since it doesn't function here and is distracting to your argument. It also gives it a "canned" appearance that doesn't say much for your respect towards this forum. You can use the "Preview Post" function to view how it will look.

That little chastisement out of the way, welcome to volconvo from a frequent poster. Your views are respected here and even if we argue, it's not grounds for getting pushed out.

And I do argue with the substance of what you said. "The Liberal Media" is a catch phrase that I have grown tired of. If you recall the early part of 2003 and the drumbeat for war with Iraq, you know that they push what they are told to.
I don't agree that America should be predominant in world affairs either. What is wrong with having discourse with and respect for others?
Finally, the socialistic agenda is not from the Media alone. It is also the policy of the entire elite establishment in America and indeed the world. It is in fact, the agenda of the the shadow spreading itself through every land.
Yes, it does seek the destruction of Christendom. It is Satanic, and our leaders are Occultists. The DemoPublican choice this year: Bush or Kerry, either one from the Tomb of the Order.

dotcoma · Jun 19, 2004, 12:01 pm

Weak first post. You supposed to respond to already existing posts before creating a topic....

Sonart · Jun 19, 2004, 01:19 pm

Meekins, you need to use a brackets tag [---] instead of the regular html <---> tag.

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Sonart It's simply logical Location: San Diego Posts: 4,316	Meekins, you need to use a brackets tag [---] instead of the regular html <---> tag. I don't suffer from insanity... I thoroughly enjoy it

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FMeekins Internet Columnist Location: In a Spaceship high above the earth Posts: 3	<html><body> A few weeks ago at Wallace Presbyterian Church where I occasionally attend, a member returning from a tour of duty in Iraq briefly addressed the congregation about his experience in the theater of conflict. Most interesting of his comments was his observation of how the media is only telling part of the story by focusing almost exclusively on the violent malcontents. Rather, this returning serviceman remarked how many of the Iraqis he dealt with were happy to have the American military there, especially those amongst the Christian population we seldom hear about. He also told the congregation about how many Iraqis were eager to attend worship services on the base where he was stationed but whose numbers had to be limited for security reasons. If U.S. forces were such brutal occupiers as the media would have the American people believe, I doubt Iraqis would come sing Christmas Carols to U.S. troops as described by this soldier. The brief testimony was informative and caused one to reflect upon the disparity between what is going on over there and the spin put on it by those in the establishment media propagating a competing foreign policy vision. More importantly, such an observation causes one to wonder why the media would forego its solemn obligation to provide a comprehensive summary of events in favor of the same take on things embraced by anti-American thugs and malcontents. Could it be internationalists in the media actually want the terrorists to prevail in order to undermine America’s predominance in world affairs in favor of global agencies and institutions more in line with their socialistic agenda? They hope to accomplish their goal in part by creating sympathy for the very fanatics who share their goal of destroying Western Christendom. Thing is, though, the laws of revolution dictate that eventually those seizing power will eventually turn on and consume their vocal advocates in the intelligentsia. Those rooting for the terrorist rabble would be among the first eliminated and their livelihood’s based upon the free propagation of ideas abolished should these fanatics ever come to power. (Apart from permitting multiple wives, I guess Islamist rule is not without a few other benefits.) The events taking place at Abu Gahrib Prison won’t be recorded as the proudest moment in U.S. military history. But neither do such unfortunate incidents characterize all Iraqi encounters with American armed forces. For some kind of amicable reporte has had to be established arising from kindness on the part of Americans if civilized Iraqis are clamoring to participate in our troops’ chapel services. Copyright 2004 by Frederick Meekins American WorldView Dispatch </body></html>

Jun 19, 2004, 08:20 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	Yeah, I think the Pentagon pays these guys to come back and sell the war. We had one come back and talk and basically said that the reasons the administration said they were going to war was all wrong, but that it was okay because the US put Saddam in power, and it was up to them to take them out. Here's what Iraqis think: http://www.fair.org/press-releases/i...acy-polls.html

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dotcoma Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,154	Weak first post. You supposed to respond to already existing posts before creating a topic....