Until one poops on you, then you might move.
Until one poops on you, then you might move.
“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.”
Very good analogy. I've known many such birds. A friend of mine needed a place to stay, so a buddy of his had a house for sale and said he could stay there until someone bought it. While he was living there for free, did he put his able-body to work and save up for his own place? No, he did the minimum amount of work necessary to support his meth and alcohol habits. Then, when the house was bought, he had to move out.
Did he say 'thank you' to the buddy who rescued him and gave him free shelter when he was 'in need'? No. He got mad and told people how mean the guy was to kick him out.
This same 'bird' has treated several people I know the same way, and when the pattern was evident, friends stopped enabling him.
Now he is gone and we don't know where he went. And we don't care.
That sounds familiar.
You gotta know when to cut a man loose.
Really that applies to anyone... knowing when to cut them loose.
The hardest part is living with yourself if they fail. I always say not to do it unless you can live with the possible guilt.
With the type of person you mentioned, I remember feeling only a little bit of guilt and then not worrying about it. In the end, and as mean as it sounds, I was just happy they wouldn't be breeding.
If you ever get the chance to read Drew Carey's book, he tells a story about this type of person.
Yeah ZN, and the sad thing is sometimes those same people are really great to hang out with, full of charm and wit. We all cared about this bird for a long time and that is why a number of friends were screwed over before everyone had enough of the poop.
If we improve those systems as you say... the idea of crossing the border into America will become that much more advantageous... SO for a brief period, yeah, things would get better... but even if the flow of illegal immigrants across the border remained constant..(it would grow if we do what you say) the newly improved health care/housing/and education systems would eventually grow just as taxed as they are now, worse even...
besides, people have to realize, there is only so much money a government can mobilize for its intended purpose... especially a democratic government. So lets say X% of that money gained is actually usable... that X% is pretty tied up... and if we keep increasing funding to various programs the money spent will only lead to further inflation... combine that with the possible recession due to declining property values and you come out with a very bad mix.
the most cost effective way to solve the immigration problem is to "remove the food source".
1. We cant take away trials... change the judicial system like that and untold consequences follow...
2. In an issue as wide spread and lasting as this... personal experiences cannot be factored into your reasoning directly...to do that is to be ignorant of the fact that your life is not an example of an entire problem.
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I wasn't citing the personal experience to demonstrate the entire problem, but moreso my experience with a particular bird pooping in a way that disturbed my life.Quote by: Warningdown
YES it is over simplistic... analogies work that way, they target a very specific issue in order to arouse debate. This one, does not cover all aspects of the issue.. but points out a solution.. decrease the incentive to come to the US...
Taken straight from the 5th amendment
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense."
give them trial... and deport them... but take away there reason to be here... and they wont come back
Welcome to Volconvo.Warningdown said:
This one, does not cover all aspects of the issue.. but points out a solution.. decrease the incentive to come to the US...
I would agree, but wouldn't put it quite that way. It is more about removing the incenvitve for illegals, while retaining the incentive for legal immigrants.
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